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I still think it was a product of Donald. I'm typically a "let me see it for two years" kind a guy.
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I like Watson but he didn’t hide any issues in Houston. He did have a nice stat line.
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I feel you, but you would think that with Hicks AND Mack eating up O linemen that he should've gotten plenty to eat. Apparently that wasn't the case as he was still skinny as hell at the end of the season.
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He was productive with a garbage cast of pass catchers, horrible OL and no run game. Imagine what that offense would look like with a lesser QB.
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Right. I felt in was inexcusable for how little he produced as a pass rusher playing with Mack, Goldman and Hicks. Whether he really did find a way to make it all click or if its just a better fit for him, i still think it was time to move on. The guy simply wasn't getting it done. Im definitely intrigued to see how he performs next season.
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11 wins in 18 then 10 in 19 in the harder AFC. But yeah lets just pay attention to 2020 where they traded away all his WR.
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Right? I hate small sample sizes. I keep posting the link to his GWD vs Buffalo in the playoffs. This guy is insanely talented. Unfortunately for him, Patrick Mahomes is in the AFC.
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He had Brandon Cooks and Will Fuller. Fuller was lighting it up before his suspension.
Fells and Akins are both capable tight ends. David Johnson is just a ghost of his former self.
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I guess there is a small plus to the Bears vs say the Dolphins or Jets. Josh Allen and the Bills are gonna be around for a while. Rogers probably only has a couple seasons left. Once hes gone Watson could be the best QB in the division.
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I agree, but I always wonder if that is Bears fault when that happens, or just that the guy finally developed, or if the scheme fit was bad or what exactly went wrong.
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He had Cooks and Fuller but let’s not worry about the facts. Cooks put up over 1,100 yards and Fuller had 8 TDs before his suspension.
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To me, trading a mid rounder for Hurts seems reasonable. My understanding is that we are hamstrung by the salary cap, and he doesn’t have a commanding salary right now. It’s a dice roll I would be willing to see Pace take.
In other aspects of the team, I’m a huge proponent of loading up on good OL in the draft. Big men who can move quick are hard to find, plus they tend to have a long shelf life, and do not push the salary cap. I have tons of respect for the OL and think we need to have depth if we want to have a dominating Offence.
As far as D goes, I think Quinn was a failed experiment. Same goes for what I said above for DL.
In other aspects of the team, I’m a huge proponent of loading up on good OL in the draft. Big men who can move quick are hard to find, plus they tend to have a long shelf life, and do not push the salary cap. I have tons of respect for the OL and think we need to have depth if we want to have a dominating Offence.
As far as D goes, I think Quinn was a failed experiment. Same goes for what I said above for DL.
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Well lets also not worry about the fact the 27th ranked D is why they lost most of their games not Watson.
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Why would the Eagles give away a QB they drafted in the 2nd for anything less then a 2nd. Hurts has shown promise in the 4 games he's played unless the Eagles go full Special person and think based off four games in his rookie season that he showed that's his full potential. He's still cheap.
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Fuller is a better version of Anthony Miller and Brandon Cooks is a solid #2. How do either of those guys look on the Bears with Mitch Trubisky? Not too good imo.
I mean, in this era of modern NFL offenses in the golden age of QBing, if you cant see how a guy like Watson makes players better than idk what to tell you. Again, i keep telling people to watch the GWD vs the Bills in the playoffs. Look at how he plays vs good teams. Look at the level of production. Two years in a row highest rated QB vs playoff teams. While Trubisky fans were blaming the OL for 4 years, Watson this year has had a worse one and still managed to put up over 100 yards passing before the final drive of a football game.
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I guess that my thought was if the organization is wanting to keep Wentz, then Hurts offers more value as a trading piece than as a backup, but you do make a valid point. I forgot that they took him in the 2nd. Okay, well scratch that idea.. haha.
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Stay frosty. Lots of crossfire here but it's entertaining. Welcome a'board.
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You said they traded away all of his receivers which is simply not true. They traded a great one but the cupboard was far from bare. Their defense was terrible and Watson did put up big numbers. It added up to a whole bunch of nothing.
His team in 2019 had a 24-0 lead against the Chiefs in the playoffs and still lost the game. An elite QB wins that game easily.
I like him but it’s crazy how many want to lump him in with the best QBs. He’s not even in the same area code as Mahomes or Rodgers. I wouldn’t be shocked if Herbert passes him next season too.
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Your Fuller comp to Miller is misguided. They are not even close to being the same type of player. Watson is good and he’ll rack up stats. I’d love to see him here but I just don’t view him as an elite NFL QB. He might become one but he has been anointed based on his incredibly high profile coming into the league.
He played like absolute shit against the Bears but every excuse was made for his performance.
For him to really thrive, he’ll need the same tools good but not great QBs need which is a really strong supporting cast.
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Enough with the bickering. Outside of him playing like shit against the Bears, i disagree with about everything here.
So point blank, you don't Watson makes players around him better?