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Everybody just stop, James Russell is the next Mariano Rivera.
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Everybody just stop, James Russell is the next Mariano Rivera.
But Mariano is not left-handed...
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Yeah and James Russell is an awful STARTING PITCHER. But he's a damn good reliever. Or are you going to continue with just saying he sucks but having no actual evidence to back it up?
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Russell has a relatively limited sample size as a MLB reliever. I could see his ceiling of a Sean Marshall reliever.
One could ask for evidence that Russell would thrive in San Diego. Despite Petco being a pitchers park, it doesn't mean Russell will improve his stats.
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A ceiling of Sean Marshall is really really good.
You could ask for evidence... you didn't. But I will still show you why he *should* improve. Of course we can never know for sure.
His career FB% is like 50%. That puts him 16th out of all pitchers with at least 60 IP the last 2 years combined. His HR/FB% is 10.5%. Then you look at This and you will see that Petco is lower than Wrigley, which means less HRs... which means less runs.
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Well given that one of James Russell's biggest problems has been keeping the ball in the ballpark and that Petco is one of the hardest ballparks to hit it out of the ballpark, I think it is likely that Russell could thrive in Petco. I doubt that is enough to make him a centerpiece in a trade for Rizzo, but there is pretty solid empirical evidence to suggest that Russell would do well in San Deigo as a reliever.
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That's what the whole argument is based off of. The Padres do have a lot of leverage in regards to what they do with Rizzo, and a player like Russell will not be enough. I don't see the problem with the Cubs giving up their #2 asset (Garza) for the Padres 1A asset.
But, the Padres have no real need for Garza and his salary. Hopefully they take him anyways
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He'll probably do better in a pitcher's park, but trying to make him the centerpiece in a trade for an elite prospect is an insult to a GM's intelligence :lol:
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I would have an issue with that as a straight up trade given the value of actual production compared to potential production.
While it is cool thing to do to make fun of CO, he isn't wrong to suggest that Russell would do well in San Deigo. He is wrong to suggest that Russell and a guy that has struggled the past two seasons is enough to land a top 50 prospect like Rizzo.
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I'd take a future 1B for the next 15 years than a rising cost starting pitcher going forward. However, the risk is relatively large, despite the Cubs likely being in baseball hell for the next year or two.
Every deal including prospects requires some risk. It goes without saying, that Theo and Jed both know what they are doing in regards to building competitive teams.
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Okay, fine. But how can you say that he sucks then?
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You are technically correct that James Russell was better in relief than as a starter, but both were in relatively small sample sizes. He's already shown through his 116.2 career innings that he's a launchpad. Maybe some of that will drop if he's in Petco, but you're talking about a 14th round pick who didn't exactly dazzle in the minors and figured his crap out only after getting destroyed as a starter. Basing his un-sucking on less than 50 innings of relief in 2011 isn't going to make your argument significantly stronger.
I definitely don't think you can say much about James Russell one way or the other using just his MLB stats because he hasn't pitched enough for anything to be statistically significant, but as I showed in one of the previous posts, his peripherals are almost in line with what he's shown in four years in the minors. What you see is basically what you get. Relievers are pretty volatile though, so Russell could be Sean Marshall next year, or he could be John Grabow.
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Now i've seen it all from you. What's next? Andy Sonnanstine is a Cy Young candidate?
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It's correct to say that Russell will likely get better.
It would also be correct to say that Russell may be a valuable trade chip down the road.
It'd be correct to say that Russell would likely be a throw in for a Rizzo deal.
However, where it goes overboard is
It would also be correct to say that Russell may be a valuable trade chip down the road.
It'd be correct to say that Russell would likely be a throw in for a Rizzo deal.
However, where it goes overboard is
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No dipshit. But I bet you can't tell me why James Russell sucks.
Those two would be pieces. Not just them. They would be perfect for the Padres because they could benefit from a pitchers park and they are hella cheap.
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Im sorry but this thread is making me LOL
I had tickets to serveral games last year(my sis gets them free through her college)
She ask me to drive up several times to go and I normally said "**** no that bum Russel is pitching"
The guy is garbage both as a starter and reliever IMO he just doesn't pass the eye test. He was pitching in meanless games as a reliever come back to me when he contributes to a winner as a 7th inning reliever calling him Sean Marshall upside is just ridiculous.
other simlarity is they are left handed
I had tickets to serveral games last year(my sis gets them free through her college)
She ask me to drive up several times to go and I normally said "**** no that bum Russel is pitching"
The guy is garbage both as a starter and reliever IMO he just doesn't pass the eye test. He was pitching in meanless games as a reliever come back to me when he contributes to a winner as a 7th inning reliever calling him Sean Marshall upside is just ridiculous.
other simlarity is they are left handed
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Vitters, LaHair and Samardzija straight up for Rizzo
DO IT NOW, THEO!
DO IT NOW, THEO!
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That doesn't make Russell "good" by any objective standard...especially in terms of getting one of baseballs top hitting prospects back...............it just makes PETCO cavernous.
CO needs to stop and fucking think for a second. Rizzo is a really valuable trade chip. Why would they give him up for some launch pad reliever? Oh wait..they wouldn't. By a function of San Diego playing in PETCO pitchers are actually devalued to them...not the other way around. If an average to horrible pitcher like Russell can go to PETCO and thrive..why would the Padres have to trade one of the top spects in baseball to get him and a declining Randy Wells? They wouldnt. They could pick up some other bums or mid level guys that would produce well in PETCO for less than Anthony Rizzo.
LOL at CO's complete lack of ability to see the issue from the other side.
Just more typical awful CO postings.
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how can you think he is worth a top prospect?
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