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depends....are you the guy...or do you know the guy?
well to ansewer NONE of your questions, I am not a guy
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well to ansewer NONE of your questions, I am not a guy
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if it is someone that hasnt done it in the past that is a VET like demp than yes, he is pitching over his head.
I showed you the numbers in previous posts. This isnt a youngster coming into his own. It has zero to do with the cubs and my dislike.
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Dempster's career ERA as a starter for the Cubs is 3.61, and if you take out his horrific April last year that skewed his entire season's stat it is 3.41. The point isn't that Dempster is a sub 2 ERA pitcher, for the record name me one pitcher who is capable of doing that consistently. But this idea that he isn't a good pitcher either is stupid.
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I know it'll blow people's minds but Dempster's FIP and xFIP have been pretty consistent over his latest tenure as a starter :lol:
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he.is.a.good.pitcher.
but he is pitching GREAT which is over his head.
Sure lets take out months and certain stretches that calculate a person stats, if we do that, lets take out good stretches and months too.
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Wouldn't it be fair to say that whoever is leading the league in ERA in late July is pitching over his head?
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I am talking about 31 innings out of 916 innings, but sure act like I am really nitpicking there.
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He makes a good point, I mean, if you look at the ERA-FIP splits Dempster is pitching well but is also benefitting from some insane luck. What the Cubs need to do is trick a GM into believing in that luck so that he's wearing another uniform when everything regresses to the mean :lol:
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if it is justin verlander esque pitcher than no, not really. you can state by the numbers they are pitching out of their norm, but in a player like verlander its not a surprise. I know you know what I have been trying to get at.
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Oh no, I've completely agreed w/ him. I know Dempster's pitching in over his head -- my point is just that pretty much every pitcher that's leading the league in ERA at most any point can be classified as pitching in over his head.
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Rosenthal and Plesac are denying that they stated that Dempster will not start tomorrow. Everything is still in the holding pattern.
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No, I agree....I mean, if Verlander, Halladay, CC, someone who's considered a top 10 pitcher year in and out leads the league in ERA, it's not that big of a surprise...but, that list changes every year.
It's okay for him to be a good pitcher pitching great. Now is actually the perfect time to trade him. The Cubs will get a bigger haul for him now than they would've 2 months ago...That's all I'm getting at.
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Depends on what that pitcher's norm is. Which was the other point he was making. Dempster's norm is definitely not a sub-2 ERA. I will concede that Dewey is speaking with a bit of scorn and hyperbole but the point still stands that Dempster isn't as good as his ERA dictates, but is still a good pitcher, is probably the best pitcher available for a smaller price (i.e. don't expect the world gift-wrapped for him in trade) and the Cubs can hopefully parlay that into a good return, but not an earthshattering one.
But hey, I aim to be surprised.
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What pitcher is capable of sub 2 ERA on a regular basis?
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Bob Gibson? :shrug:
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Yeah I agree it is probably more than one standard deviation that gets Dempster to that level versus guys like Verlander, but sub 2 is over anyone's head.
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Ryan Dempster has been nothing but an asset since he got here. Remember, they took a flyer on him coming off Tommy John surgery and its paid huge dividends. He closed for them and did well, he started for them and did well and even now when he knows he's trade bait...he's doing better than well. Which again will help this organization....the only thing he hasn't done well here is find the Fountain of Youth. In other words, yes he's gonna get traded but the only reason for that is his age. An excellent teammate and a pretty good pitcher as well....he should draw a decent package from some contender. Even the Cubs get lucky sometimes.
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Yeah it is funny how the discussion on Ryan Dempster has changed in the past 10 months from being pissed off that Dempster exercised his player option to trying to get legitimate prospects.
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Not quite. lol.
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