Schefter: Multiple teams contacted Bears about Jordan Howard

[HeHateMe]

Multiple teams.....think Jordan Howard is a good running back. Surprise.

Anymore it seems we cannot get him outta here fast enough. Like he's an impediment to the team.

Yup. H8rs are h8ing but Jo. Howa. has value.

 

[bearsfootball516]

Not surprised. He's a good, young running back, but his hands aren't great and is more of a bruiser, doesn't really fit into the offense. He'll have more success elsewhere than he would here.

 

[Visionman]

If this was true then the Bears would have traded him last year. Clearly the Bears:

A. Think he has some value or he wouldn't have had 200+ carries for them last year.
B. Think he's a square peg in a round hole.
C. Want more than a ham sammy for him.

Last year Nagy didnt know if he would be able to adapt and fit the offense or not. Keeping a previously productive RB to see if they can is wise. And there were a LOT of other offensive areas to fix last off-season instead of trying to fix a strength with a better fit.

But "several teams inquiring" doesnt mean several teams are currently interested in making a trade for Howard. Other GMs turn over every stone looking for ways to improve as well. Doesn't mean they are wanting to pull the trigger though...

 

[iueyedoc]

Multiple teams.....think Jordan Howard is a good running back. Surprise.

Anymore it seems we cannot get him outta here fast enough. Like he's an impediment to the team.

That's way too simplistic. Howard in this offense is like using a plow horse in the Kentucky Derby or using a dump truck to deliver pizza. He has a lot of value, just not at the task the Bears are asking him to perform. And I imagine Howard feels the same way. He is entering a contract year. Do you think he would rather be playing second or possibly third fiddle in an offense he is ill fit for or be the feature back in a power offense putting up numbers like his 1st 2 seasons?

 

[Raskolnikov]

I don’t think you trade him just to trade him. If a better offer comes up from a team that actually improves Howard’s situation fine, but there aren’t many of those fits anymore and Howard needs to show his value in a post-modern offense to have real free agent value at his position. The bears need him and are a great fit.

If better for everyone appears so be it, but don’t sell cheaper than his value to team and do draft a rb 3-5 round area. I hope he stays and I think in the end cooler heads prevail and he stays.

These lineman need second year in system solidarity to show him off. Stay where he is, compete for a chip, and preserve himself. Chicago is a great fit for his situation and he would have 10tds if used properly.

 

[BornAnAngryBearsFan]

If all the teams have reps at the combine, and they're asking what the Bears would want for Howard, that should tell you something about the backs coming out this year.

 

[iueyedoc]

I don’t think you trade him just to trade him. If a better offer comes up from a team that actually improves Howard’s situation fine, but there aren’t many of those fits anymore and Howard needs to show his value in a post-modern offense to have real free agent value at his position. The bears need him and are a great fit.

If better for everyone appears so be it, but don’t sell cheaper than his value to team and do draft a rb 3-5 round area. I hope he stays and I think in the end cooler heads prevail and he stays.

These lineman need second year in system solidarity to show him off. Stay where he is, compete for a chip, and preserve himself. Chicago is a great fit for his situation and he would have 10tds if used properly.

1) He is not a "great fit" for the current Bears offense.
2)Any team trading for him is likely a better fit for him, but should not even enter the equation as to whether or not to trade him.
3) Show him off next season for what? Free agency?
4) Drugs are bad. Just say no, kids.

 

[Black Rainbow]

That's way too simplistic. Howard in this offense is like using a plow horse in the Kentucky Derby or using a dump truck to deliver pizza. He has a lot of value, just not at the task the Bears are asking him to perform. And I imagine Howard feels the same way. He is entering a contract year. Do you think he would rather be playing second or possibly third fiddle in an offense he is ill fit for or be the feature back in a power offense putting up numbers like his 1st 2 seasons?

I would rather he stayed than trust a rookie and Cohen next year....that actually scares me a little. You have a proven commodity in Jordan Howard, who had one bad year, where the coach possibly didn't get the most out of him....and we're trading him for unknowns.

 

[Raskolnikov]

Why move him when you have 12 more months at 2,000,000 for a safety net in case Nall ain’t it and your draft pick ain’t ready to pass protect?

The one thing is we are hard up for draft picks. In normal scenario I would sell no lower than 3rd, but in this case would understand a fourth to be used on better fit running back.

I say keep him and use the time though to find his replacement before loss. Don’t go backwards unless forced.

 

[EL ROCKSTEADY]

I do think a third is realistic. He does not have a big contract and he is a sure fire above average productive running back. That cannot be said about drafting a running back in the third round of this year's draft.

 

[Bearly]

Last year Nagy didnt know if he would be able to adapt and fit the offense or not. Keeping a previously productive RB to see if they can is wise. And there were a LOT of other offensive areas to fix last off-season instead of trying to fix a strength with a better fit.

But "several teams inquiring" doesnt mean several teams are currently interested in making a trade for Howard. Other GMs turn over every stone looking for ways to improve as well. Doesn't mean they are wanting to pull the trigger though...

Sure it mean willing to trade. They aren't inquiring if he will be cut. Issue is value.

 

[bears26]

Earl B. Bennett
@EarlBBennett
39m39 minutes ago
So trade talk still circling about @JHowardx24 My guy said he wants to play in Chicago. He has been very productive. What am I missing?

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

I feel like a 5th is the best that can be done this year. I wouldn't rule out the possibility of a 4th (maybe 3rd) for next year.

 

[gallagher]

I would rather he stayed than trust a rookie and Cohen next year....that actually scares me a little. You have a proven commodity in Jordan Howard, who had one bad year, where the coach possibly didn't get the most out of him....and we're trading him for unknowns.

That proven commodity is a misfit, it seems. Sure, we'd like to keep players we drafted and developed, but the running game is not really a focus for this scheme. Howard is going to get us a better return this year if he's traded than in two years when we finally get a comp pick for him.

My best guess is that he ends up in Denver, where Fangio is going to love his ability to grind hard yards to keep the offense moving and the defense resting. Probably going to get a 4th in return. Aside from Cohen, who is a more influential weapon than Howard for us, I'm guessing we have a high turnover rate at RB until we find someone that we can keep on field for a hurry-up, lightning quick offense.

 

[Black Rainbow]

Earl B. Bennett
@EarlBBennett
39m39 minutes ago
So trade talk still circling about @JHowardx24 My guy said he wants to play in Chicago. He has been very productive. What am I missing?

So much for the theories from msmeadows and eyedoc that he wants to/will ask to be traded.

He knows he's got a shot a SB here....he doesn't want to go.

 

[WindyCity]

Earl B. Bennett
@EarlBBennett
39m39 minutes ago
So trade talk still circling about @JHowardx24 My guy said he wants to play in Chicago. He has been very productive. What am I missing?

1. He is a huge tell to the defense, the Bears run it 25% more with him on the field
2. He can only run zone runs
3. He runs 1 route, the flat, and while he does catch check downs he cannot run routes more than 5 yards
4. He has been productive on awful offenses

That is what is missing.

 

[PrideisBears]

So much for the theories from msmeadows and eyedoc that he wants to/will ask to be traded.

He knows he's got a shot a SB here....he doesn't want to go.

He does but he isnt working in the system. I want Howard to stay but he makes the plays predictable when out there

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

He does but he isnt working in the system. I want Howard to stay but he makes the plays predictable when out there

Just to play devil's advocate.... but can some of this be blamed on Nagy? If he's this great offensive genius shouldn't he be able to incorporate a running back who was really good his first two years? Is this a Mike Martz/Greg Olsen situation we're gonna regret 5 years from now?

 

[bears26]

Nicholas Moreano
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17m17 minutes ago
Adam Schefter joined Waddle & Silvy to discuss the Jordan Howard trade rumors. Schefter said that the talks have been going on for a while. Schefter said he thinks the trade could get done once trades start happening. He also believes that Howard would be traded for a Day 3 pick.

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[BaBaBlacksheep]

Nicholas Moreano
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17m17 minutes ago
Adam Schefter joined Waddle & Silvy to discuss the Jordan Howard trade rumors. Schefter said that the talks have been going on for a while. Schefter said he thinks the trade could get done once trades start happening. He also believes that Howard would be traded for a Day 3 pick.

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