Seabrook Signs Extension

[tbo41fan]

I would definately move hammer...3.5 million for a shot block specialist is steep...

I love Seabs to death, i really do, but jesus christ between him and sharpie next year, it will be tough...

only good thing is that the core has one more piece locked up long term (though it came at a high cost)

 

[Captain Iago]

I love Seabs to death, i really do, but jesus christ between him and sharpie next year, it will be tough...

I'm not sure what you mean here.

 

[southern_cross_116]

... I shouldn't have stuck the Campbell stuff in there -as in looking at that site it really isn't that bad... but I suppose it all depends upon what happens in the next couple of days, and if anyone else comes in or goes out.

It does look much more flexible than last offseason by a long shot. Plus there isn't really any compelling reason to actually force the team to keep Stalberg, Frolik, or a couple of others.

There are other teams in a lot worse shape; and generally the Hawks are getting value for money -especially when comparing their guys to some of the other highly touted free agents of the past few years - particularly guys like Drury, and Gomes, even DiPietro who have some long term dog of contracts that actually sort of make Campbell's look pretty good really.

 

[southern_cross_116]

I'm not sure what you mean here.

Me either... CapGeek, using a projected cap of 59.4 million dollars.

There are (assuming the story about Seabrook is accurate):


UFA's: (that are currently counting against the cap)

Kopecky
Pisani
Johnson
Hendry
Turco

RFA's: (Again -currently counting against the cap)

Frolik
Brouwer
Stalberg
Dowell
Crawford

Leaving about $10 million dollars to play with.

Of those guys, probably the one to try to retain that would be due the biggest raise would be Crawford.

Johnson and Pisani, if wanted, should be able to be had for the same amount or so I'd think... and personally I'd like Brouwer back, as well as Dowell - but it wouldn't be fatal if any of those guys left -and there'd be money to replace them from within or without (of course they'd still need a backup goalie - and if Turco is happy here -you could do worse).

-Sharp's cap hit is 3.9 million for next season and then he's a UFA in 2012-13

 

[Captain Iago]

Me either... CapGeek, using a projected cap of 59.4 million dollars.

There are (assuming the story about Seabrook is accurate):


UFA's: (that are currently counting against the cap)

Kopecky
Pisani
Johnson
Hendry
Turco

RFA's: (Again -currently counting against the cap)

Frolik
Brouwer
Stalberg
Dowell
Crawford

Of those guys, probably the one to try to retain that would be due the biggest raise would be Crawford. Johnson and Pisani, if wanted, should be able to be had for the same amount or so I'd think... and personally I'd like Brouwer back, as well as Dowell - but it wouldn't be fatal if any of those guys left -and there'd be money to replace them from within or without (of course they'd still need a backup goalie - and if Turco is happy here -you could do worse).

-Sharp's cap hit is 3.9 million for next season and then he's a UFA in 2012-13

Aye, we're in better shape this upcoming season than what we were coming into this season, even with the Seabrook extension. Expect a raise in the cap as well.

 

[DewsSox79]

Aye, we're in better shape this upcoming season than what we were coming into this season, even with the Seabrook extension. Expect a raise in the cap as well.

not really.

with the bonuses coming off and the cap to be 63 million...you are looking at 10 to 13 million to fill 10 spots.

that isnt good.

 

[DewsSox79]

actually less, minus 6 million for seabrook to fill now 9 spots. so around 7 million

 

[DewsSox79]

48.965 for next year committed including seabrook. The cap should be 63 million. you have RFA and UFA players. either way, 9 spots to fill with no money.

 

[Captain Iago]

not really.

with the bonuses coming off and the cap to be 63 million...you are looking at 10 to 13 million to fill 10 spots.

that isnt good.

A few of those spots will be remain quite cheap. I expect Morin to be part of the group next season and you know a back-up G will cost no more than 800k...and that might even be a high estimation considering how the goalie market has shaken out recently. It also sounds as if brass expects Kruger to join the team next season as well.

With a cap raise of 2mil (which also might be low - it could go up as much as 3), we're at a roster of 15 with 9.4 to spend on likely 7 or 8 players. *including morin, kruger and a g at 800

We did not have the luxury of over a mil/roster spot this past offseason.

 

[southern_cross_116]

I honestly don't know what I am missing.

59.4 mil cap

43,502,169.00 payroll (excluding Seabrook)

325,000 bonuses

With projected cap space of: $15,897,831.00 (again exclusing Seabrook).

Have a look at the players on that list posted, and compare it to the depth chart, -say Johnson and Pisani resign for the same rate ... so take off a mil and fill 2 roster spots ... so you got say, a max of 7 mil coming off of that nearly 16 mil available cap room (and that apparently is with no increase in the cap).... and you got 8 roster spots to fill (granted both goalie spots in thost 7 spots- but 5 skaters.

So you got (with no cap increase) $9 mil, 2 goalie spots and 5 skaters... (1 defenseman) and 4 forwards.

Looks doable to me. Nothing at all like last offseason; and there could well even be room to add some guys during the offseason.

 

[DewsSox79]

I honestly don't know what I am missing.

59.4 mil cap

43,502,169.00 payroll (excluding Seabrook)

325,000 bonuses

With projected cap space of: $15,897,831.00 (again exclusing Seabrook).

Have a look at the players on that list posted, and compare it to the depth chart, -say Johnson and Pisani resign for the same rate ... so take off a mil and fill 2 roster spots ... so you got say, a max of 7 mil coming off of that nearly 16 mil available cap room (and that apparently is with no increase in the cap).... and you got 8 roster spots to fill (granted both goalie spots in thost 7 spots- but 5 skaters.

So you got (with no cap increase) $9 mil, 2 goalie spots and 5 skaters... (1 defenseman) and 4 forwards.

Looks doable to me. Nothing at all like last offseason; and there could well even be room to add some guys during the offseason.

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[DewsSox79]

it simply isnt enough money. look at what you need to be a big player in the west not just a "lets just try to get in" team.

 

[AddisonStation]

I don't see how you guys can think this is an ok contract. Youre acting like this team is already deep.

Were not going to have any money to sign a good depth player nor trade for one.

They are going to depend on the AHL for a long period of time. They simply have too much money in too few players.

 

[derosabomb]

goodbye troy brouwer

 

[Captain Iago]

goodbye troy brouwer

Oif. Some more overreaction. How much of a raise do you expect him (a 40 point player) to get?

Why couldn't he return for around 2?

 

[AddisonStation]

Look at Vancouver's cap numbers. Perfectly managed. Id EASILY rather have Dan Hamhuis at 4.5 over Seabs at 6. They also have a good number of mid range salary guys at about 2.5.

 

[Captain Iago]

Look at Vancouver's cap numbers. Perfectly managed. Id EASILY rather have Dan Hamhuis at 4.5 over Seabs at 6. They also have a good number of mid range salary guys at about 2.5.

Now THAT'S crazy talk. You're completely off your rocker.

 

[AddisonStation]

Oif. Some more overreaction. How much of a raise do you expect him (a 40 point player) to get?

Why couldn't he return for around 2?

Agree on Brouwer but the fact that were discussing concerns about resigning players instead of filling key holes on the market is not good.

There isn't much room, there just isn't.

 

[AddisonStation]

Now THAT'S crazy talk. You're completely off your rocker.

Haha nope... Thats not crazy at all. You are completely overrating Seabrook.

 

[Captain Iago]

Haha nope... Thats not crazy at all. You are completely overrating Seabrook.

The same could be said for your overrating of Hamhuis.

The hardware earned (especially Seabrook being elected for Canada in the Olympics as both are the same countrymen) tips the scales.

For them both being defensive d-men, at least Seabrook has added 4 30 point seasons. Hamhuis 1...and he's played in one more season.

Hamhuis is overpaid at 4.5.