Seabrook Signs Extension

[derosabomb]

Oif. Some more overreaction. How much of a raise do you expect him (a 40 point player) to get?

Why couldn't he return for around 2?

someone has to. joecawks isnt around to do it.

 

[Captain Iago]

someone has to. joecawks isnt around to do it.

:doorrofl: :clap:

 

[AddisonStation]

The same could be said for your overrating of Hamhuis.

The hardware earned (especially Seabrook being elected for Canada in the Olympics as both are the same countrymen) tips the scales.

For them both being defensive d-men, at least Seabrook has added 4 30 point seasons. Hamhuis 1...and he's played in one more season.

Hamhuis is overpaid at 4.5.

They are almost the same player. Seabrook is slightly better. Sure Hamhuis is overpaid... I said earlier in this thread I think Seabrook is worth 4-4.5 IMO. Seabs isn't 1.5 mill better than Hamhuis.

 

[Captain Iago]

They are almost the same player. Seabrook is slightly better. Sure Hamhuis is overpaid... I said earlier in this thread I think Seabrook is worth 4-4.5 IMO. Seabs isn't 1.5 mill better than Hamhuis.

No, Seabrook is not slightly better, he's far better...and 3 years younger. Please stop your comparisons.

 

[AddisonStation]

No, Seabrook is not slightly better, he's far better...and 3 years younger. Please stop your comparisons.

1. It was a random comparison and he is NOT far better. Take the hawks shades off.

2. Seabrook has reached his ceiling IMO.

 

[AddisonStation]

The deal would make him the 9th highest paid defenseman in the NHL.... Higher than Visnovsky, Markov, Pronger and Keith.... Thats stupid.

 

[djeck42]

I do not really like he gets paid more than Keith... but in all honesty, he has been more consistent this season at least.

And it is just how the market is; Seabs is a big part of this teams success now and down the line, and it sucks that the market for a solid D is high... but he is part of the core and needs to stay in Chicago.

 

[southern_cross_116]

Hamhuis is 3 years older than Seabrook as well. Pronger is 36+, Markov is 32 (take a look at what he did at 25 -- it isn't that much), Visnovsky I think only was a rookie at 25 (and is what -34 now?), Keith? well see below -and stop confusing cap hits with actual salary, dammit. --- Seabrook is 25 in April -this will be the guy's 6th full season.

Your saying Seabrook has reached his ceiling, notwithstanding -it isn't born out by the statistics or even when you look at defensemen in general - in fact it sort of seems like you are arguing that older guys in their 30's are really the best defensemen in the league -yet, somehow none of them seem to actually done nearly as much as early in their career as this guy that you have some sort of phantom problem with; so maybe you could clarify for the rest of the readers exactly what your opinion is based upon?
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Nice site- so you're saying CapGeek is wrong I take it? You realize that your link is going straight by salaries and not cap hits, right? As it makes a difference -otherwise there was no reason to have signed Hossa for about 500 years.

CapGeek.com :: It's a numbers game :: NHL Salary Cap Charts

Keith gets paid more but his cap hit is lower as if those reports are correct then Keith will be signed for a lot longer term. However Keith is pulling down $8 mil per season through 2012-13.

 

[AddisonStation]

Hamhuis is 3 years older than Seabrook as well. Pronger is 36+, Markov is 32 (take a look at what he did at 25 -- it isn't that much), Visnovsky I think only was a rookie at 25 (and is what -34 now?), Keith? well see below -and stop confusing cap hits with actual salary, dammit. --- Seabrook is 25 in April -this will be the guy's 6th full season.

Your saying Seabrook has reached his ceiling, notwithstanding -it isn't born out by the statistics or even when you look at defensemen in general - in fact it sort of seems like you are arguing that older guys in their 30's are really the best defensemen in the league -yet, somehow none of them seem to actually done nearly as much as early in their career as this guy that you have some sort of phantom problem with; so maybe you could clarify for the rest of the readers exactly what your opinion is based upon?
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Nice site- so you're saying CapGeek is wrong I take it? You realize that your link is going straight by salaries and not cap hits, right? As it makes a difference -otherwise there was no reason to have signed Hossa for about 500 years.

CapGeek.com :: It's a numbers game :: NHL Salary Cap Charts

Keith gets paid more but his cap hit is lower as if those reports are correct then Keith will be signed for a lot longer term. However Keith is pulling down $8 mil per season through 2012-13.

Everything I have talked about does go by cap hit. Why would I use yearly salary? Who cares if Keith makes $8MM now? I understand cap numbers.

I'm basing Seabrook maxing out his skill from his bleh skating and passing ability, and constistent production... Everything he's done has remainded close to the same.

And why shouldn't I compare him to other older players cap numbers? Why does a guy who produces less deserve more?

 

[Derkach77]

Good signing.

 

[icehogfan08]

Visnovsky, Lubomir -- 5.6 Mil
Chara, Zdeno -- 7.5 mil
Bouwmeester, Jay 6.680
Lidstrom, Nicklas 6
Rafalski, Brian 6.2
Markov, Andrei 5.750
Gonchar, Sergei 5.5
Timonen, Kimmo 6.333
Jovanovski, Ed 6
Boyle, Dan 6.667
Phaneuf, Dion 6.5

Heres a list of D-men over 5.5 mil. Dont think Seabs deserves to be in that class, along with a few up there. What can we do tho, we'll see how the cap is managed around this.

 

[icehogfan08]

This deal gives us 12 players contracted for next year. Around 11.8 in cap space to at least add 8 to the roster. Frolik and Brouwer are 2 players who are most likly in for raises. Hawks need to add 2 goalies whether resigning Turco & Crawford or sgning free agents, or trading for.

Of the 12 skaters signed for next year 3 make under 3.5 mil (Leddy, Scott, Bickell) The 3 of them combined still make less than the other 9 skaters

 

[derosabomb]

Blackhawks agree to multi-year contract extension with defenseman Brent Seabrook

The Chicago Blackhawks have agreed to a five-year contract extension with defenseman Brent Seabrook.

"Brent is a very important member of our organization and we are looking forward to him being part of a core group that will be a contender for many years to come, Blackhawks Vice President/General Manager Stan Bowman said. “We have been fortunate to have Brent as part of our family since he was a teenager and we are proud to be able to announce this news today."

Seabrook, 25, ranks 13th in Blackhawks franchise history among defenseman, and second among all active Blackhawks, with 452 regular-season games played over parts of six National Hockey League seasons. He has registered 143 assists, 13th all-time by a Blackhawks blueliner, and 177 points, 16th among Chicago defensemen, since his NHL debut in 2005. He has also paced club defensemen in hits in each of the last four campaigns.

“The Blackhawks are the only organization I’ve ever played for, and I’ve been a part of something very special in Chicago over the last six seasons,” said Seabrook. “I’m excited to continue being a part of this group, playing in the United Center and making our fans proud.”

Originally selected by the Blackhawks with the 14th overall pick in the 2003 NHL Entry Draft, Seabrook netted a career-high four goals and added seven assists in 22 postseason contests while helping Chicago to the 2010 Stanley Cup Championship. He ranked ninth in the Playoffs with a +9 plus/minus rating and ranked second in the NHL with 81 hits. Seabrook’s 23 career postseason points (5G, 18A) share eighth in franchise history for a defenseman despite just 39 games played over the last two years.

A native of Tsawassen, British Columbia, Seabrook notched one assist and a +2 plus/minus rating en route to a Gold Medal with Team Canada at the 2010 Winter Olympic Games in Vancouver. He also represented his country at the 2006 World Championships, 2004 & 2005 World Junior Championships, and 2003 World U-18 Championships.

Seabrook currently ranks third on the Blackhawks with a career-high 29 assists, and shares fifth with a career-best 33 points, both tops among club blueliners. He ranks 17th in the NHL this season with an average of 24:27 of ice time per game and currently ranks fourth among league defensemen with 169 hits.

 

[Captain Iago]

1. It was a random comparison and he is NOT far better. Take the hawks shades off.

2. Seabrook has reached his ceiling IMO.

1. Ok, so it's a bad random comparison. No Hawks shades needed.

2. At 25 years old, please tell me you're joking because you really, truly understand that defensemen usually take longer to develop.

 

[IvyPickin87]

Did Jim Hendry start handing out contracts for the b-hawks? Cause this is getting redic i dont like how much money seabs is getting. I mean come on the norris trophy winner's sidekick is gettin paid more then the NT Winner

 

[Captain Iago]

Did Jim Hendry start handing out contracts for the b-hawks? Cause this is getting redic i dont like how much money seabs is getting. I mean come on the norris trophy winner's sidekick is gettin paid more then the NT Winner

No, he's not. This kind of talk needs to stop.

 

[DewsSox79]

relax my fine ladies.

 

[IvyPickin87]

No, he's not. This kind of talk needs to stop.

Dude come on he is NOT worth the money we are giving him plz justify the contract PLEASE. Convince me why he is worth that much? He is our only physical d-man, that is your only argument. He is a good player but nowhere close to what he is being paid.

 

[Captain Iago]

Dude come on he is NOT worth the money we are giving him plz justify the contract PLEASE. Convince me why he is worth that much? He is our only physical d-man, that is your only argument. He is a good player but nowhere close to what he is being paid.

If you go back and read all of my posts, I haven't shared my opinion on his official deal. I haven't stated whether I like or dislike the deal. You're assuming I'm a supporter based on my comment that he's far better than Hamhuis, who has a cap hit of 4.6. I'm thrilled they didn't go the lifetime route with Seabrook in attempt to circumvent the cap and get his cap hit at Keith's. That would have been the wrong route entirely. But in order to avoid that, ya gotta pay the piper some more.

What I have been arguing here is the ignorant chicken little reactions that this deal won't allow us to be competitive. That's pure ignorance.

 

[IvyPickin87]

If you go back and read all of my posts, I haven't shared my opinion on his official deal. I haven't stated whether I like or dislike the deal. You're assuming I'm a supporter based on my comment that he's far better than Hamhuis, who has a cap hit of 4.6. I'm thrilled they didn't go the lifetime route with Seabrook in attempt to circumvent the cap and get his cap hit at Keith's. That would have been the wrong route entirely. But in order to avoid that, ya gotta pay the piper some more.

What I have been arguing here is the ignorant chicken little reactions that this deal won't allow us to be competitive. That's pure ignorance.

I respect your opinion, and im not trying to call you out, but IMO if we cannot get rid of soups contract with the other guys we have signed we cant be competitive. WE ARE IN TROUBLE CAP WISE.