Shooting Guard Need

[TheStig]

Shakes wrote:

I think it's the Raptors who are trying to re-create the Suns, apparently they're going to use part of their trade exception on Diaw.

I guess there must be some sort of pressure to put some wins on the board, you'd think you'd be looking to rebuild after losing Bosh.

Told you they couldn't afford to sit around and do a full out rebuild.

 

[Shakes]

And I told you Bosh would demand he wanted to go somewhere and they'd cave and give him away for a trade exception.

 

[Shakes]

Although swapping Calderon for Chandler is a nice move, they really need a defense & rebounding guy next to Bargs.

 

[TheStig]

Shakes wrote:

And I told you Bosh would demand he wanted to go somewhere and they'd cave and give him away for a trade exception.

I didn't think we'd have to give up Noah, just would if I had too.

Chandler is a good piece for them, I wonder if Diaw is their starting sf.

 

[Shakes]

Well looks like after agreeing on the trade and all the players being told they're traded MJ has second thoughts and is holding it up. Way to both kill morale in your locker room and make it so nobody ever wants to deal with you again if you don't let the trade go through MJ ...

 

[MikeMeraz]

I wouldn't mind Adam Morrison as a backup.. Maybe that guy just needs some minutes to get his act together. Wasn't he suppossed to be like the next Larry Bird? lol..

We should also sign Matt Barnes.. man that's a good team...

Rose-Livingston or Pargo
Barnes-Redick
Deng-Korver-Morrison
Boozer-Gibson
Noah-Miller

Man I like that team. is that possible?

 

[clonetrooper264]

MikeMeraz wrote:

I wouldn't mind Adam Morrison as a backup.. Maybe that guy just needs some minutes to get his act together. Wasn't he supposed to be like the next Larry Bird? lol..

We should also sign Matt Barnes.. man that's a good team...

Rose-Livingston or Pargo
Barnes-Redick
Deng-Korver-Morrison
Boozer-Gibson
Noah-Miller

Man I like that team. is that possible?

In theory, yes it is. But it depends on the salaries that Barnes and Livingston require. Since Livingston is the most unlucky person in the last 5 years, I doubt he gets above a minimum contract. So assuming that he and Morrison both sign for the minimum, we can offer a decent amount money to Barnes and get him too.

 

[Shakes]

If we get them at the minimum we can sign them last and they don't count against cap space, so I'm fine with a useless waste of a roster spot like Morrison if he's just filling the 13th.

 

[Diddy1122]

Screw Morrison. Why we haven't even talked to Barnes yet is a complete mystery to me. This guy can be had for $2.5mill tops & provides defense, toughness, & a decent outside shot. Just go out & get him already before he ends up on the Lakers or Heat for peanuts.

I'm getting the feeling that JJ will be matched. This whole situation is just eerily similar to Gortat's offer sheet last season. So if that's the case, take that JJ money & get Barnes & Brewer, two solid defensive minded 2/3's.

 

[Shakes]

I suspect Brewer is waiting on the outcome of the Redick signing, he probably wants to start.

Barnes I don't know, haven't heard of anyone being close to a deal with him, so who knows who has talked with him.

Edit: KC Johnson mentioned in an article about the Q Rich signing that Barnes is "on the Bulls radar", so maybe we have talked to him.

 

[clonetrooper264]

Shakes wrote:

I suspect Brewer is waiting on the outcome of the Redick signing, he probably wants to start.

Barnes I don't know, haven't heard of anyone being close to a deal with him, so who knows who has talked with him.

Edit: KC Johnson mentioned in an article about the Q Rich signing that Barnes is "on the Bulls radar", so maybe we have talked to him.

I think Brewer would start over Redick anyway. He can't shoot for his life, but he can play defense, and overall I think may be a better fit to start. That's just my opinion though. Redick's shooting might be more wanted to start a game with, not sure.

We better have talked to Barnes. If we don't get either him or Brewer I will be baffled.

 

[houheffna]

I listened to a beat writer for Orlando in an interview on the radio this morning and from what he said, Redick is a starter in this league. He talked of Redick's improvements offensively and defensively. He also spoke of Redick possibly being a starter for Orlando in the future. Don't know if Orlando can afford to keep him though...

 

[Diddy1122]

houheffna wrote:

I listened to a beat writer for Orlando in an interview on the radio this morning and from what he said, Redick is a starter in this league. He talked of Redick's improvements offensively and defensively. He also spoke of Redick possibly being a starter for Orlando in the future. Don't know if Orlando can afford to keep him though...

And that is why I believe Orlando will match despite being over the cap. It's the Gortat situation all over again. Dallas signed him to a big offer, the Magic went out & signed Bass then matched Gortat anyway despite the fact he would've been a starter for Dallas & only a backup in Orlando. I'm not the biggest Reddick fan but I do believe he could carve out a Bobby Sura like career given the chance to start. I would just rather have a defensive 2 who can hit an outside shot *cough BARNES cough* who only costs less than half of the $7.5mill Reddick will be owed in year 1.

 

[Shakes]

Barnes is a career 33% shooter from 3, there's nothing about him that would make me describe him as a guy who can "hit an outside shot". He's also pretty much a pure SF, so much so that 82games says he's logged more minutes at PF than SG.

I really don't think he's the answer as our starting SG. Don't mind him as a backup SF and insurance against a Deng injury on the cheap, and that's probably why we're talking to him, but I really hope he's not our SG solution.

 

[clonetrooper264]

Shakes wrote:

Barnes is a career 33% shooter from 3, there's nothing about him that would make me describe him as a guy who can "hit an outside shot". He's also pretty much a pure SF, so much so that 82games says he's logged more minutes at PF than SG.

I really don't think he's the answer as our starting SG. Don't mind him as a backup SF and insurance against a Deng injury on the cheap, and that's probably why we're talking to him, but I really hope he's not our SG solution.

I think he offensively is a 3, but defensively can be a 2. In a lineup with him and Korver, he'd be the 3 on offense, and could guard the SG on defense if that's the better player. Barnes is very versatile defensively and is ok offensively. 33% from 3 means that he can make a 3. He's not that great at it, but he can make it. Though Kirk Hinrich at 37 or 38% never seemed to be good enough to satisfy anyone, so I guess 33% might as well be 20%

 

[Shakes]

The league average last year was 35.5%. I don't see how we can go into the season with only one player, off the bench no less, that we can expect to shoot that percentage. We'll just see a repeat of last year where teams didn't respect us and could collapse on D.

 

[Shakes]

A dark horse candidate for our SG is Xavier Henry, who is holding out on the Griz because they don't want to pay him the normal 120% rookie scale contract (ie what everyone else in the league pays their rookies). Probably nothing to it, but would hope we're enquiring whether we can have his rights for a future pick.

 

[TheStig]

Shakes wrote:

A dark horse candidate for our SG is Xavier Henry, who is holding out on the Griz because they don't want to pay him the normal 120% rookie scale contract (ie what everyone else in the league pays their rookies). Probably nothing to it, but would hope we're enquiring whether we can have his rights for a future pick.

lol seriously? They just paid *** so much money and are trying to save 500k a year on a pick. Hopefully we can pick him up, that'd be great.

 

[Shakes]

Yeah, it seems ridiculous but apparently it's why he isn't on their summer league team. I can't understand why you'd want to piss off a guy who you can have on a cheap contract for 4 years over a couple of hundred K, but there you go, nobody said the Griz were well run.