Starlin Castro discussion thread

[dabynsky]

Make it 8. I'm sorry, but this guy will need a new position soon. 64 career errors already?

He still has a while to go before he enters Jose Valentin territory.

 

[brett05]

Right he would need to make less errors to be in Jose's class.

 

[brett05]

The other difference is that Jose gave good fielding years

 

[dabynsky]

Right he would need to make less errors to be in Jose's class.

Wow you are that much of a .

He put up years with 36 and 37 errors. Has Castro had a season with even 30 errors yet? Jose had a sparkling .959 career fielding percentage with those "good" years. Those good years at SS I assume would be 2003 and 2004 when he was 33 and 34 (which again the point has been that Castro is young in his development) and he had an amazing .969 and .965 fielding percentages when his range was lower. Not to mention the point that Valentin didn't even make the big leagues until 22, which in case you missed it, was the whole point that Castro is really, really early in his development as a SS.

 

[Jntg4]

Right he would need to make less errors to be in Jose's class.

Oh my... alert!

 

[DewsSox79]

kinda hypocritical though. i mean making excuses such as early development is a bit homerish. every smart fan knows he isnt a ss.


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[Jntg4]

kinda hypocritical though. i mean making excuses such as early development is a bit homerish. every smart fan knows he isnt a ss.


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He's been an above average shortstop this year (per fangraphs Fld) and all the mistakes are mental rather than him being physically incompetent and he is the most athletic player on the team, so yes, he is a Shortstop.

And it isn't homerish to point out that he is still really young and developing since he is at an age where, unless drafted out of HS or JC you would just be making your professional debut this year.

 

[dabynsky]

kinda hypocritical though. i mean making excuses such as early development is a bit homerish. every smart fan knows he isnt a ss.


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Speaking of being a bit hypocritical considering how offended you were over a social group name here...

 

[brett05]

Wow you are that much of a .

He put up years with 36 and 37 errors. Has Castro had a season with even 30 errors yet? Jose had a sparkling .959 career fielding percentage with those "good" years. Those good years at SS I assume would be 2003 and 2004 when he was 33 and 34 (which again the point has been that Castro is young in his development) and he had an amazing .969 and .965 fielding percentages when his range was lower. Not to mention the point that Valentin didn't even make the big leagues until 22, which in case you missed it, was the whole point that Castro is really, really early in his development as a SS.

The thread us about errors. Right now Castro makes more errors per game.he also has not had a good year in the field either. This in no way makes Jose a good fielder. He's not. Neither is Castro. Could Castro turn it around? Sure. Doubt it though. I see no signs of it. That's not hatred that's honesty

 

[dabynsky]

The thread us about errors. Right now Castro makes more errors per game.he also has not had a good year in the field either. This in no way makes Jose a good fielder. He's not. Neither is Castro. Could Castro turn it around? Sure. Doubt it though. I see no signs of it. That's not hatred that's honesty

My reaction was about your statement that he would have to make less errors to be in Jose's class when their career fielding percentage, which includes those good years in the field which as you said Castro has yet to have, is separated by .004.

 

[brett05]

Again flg% is not the thread topic. It's error count

 

[dabynsky]

Again flg% is not the thread topic. It's error count

37 would be more than 29 the last time I checked.

 

[dabynsky]

And also just as a by the way, Castro has made an error every 4.8125 games in his career compared to Valentin making an error every 5.1965 games. That is going by games played, and the difference was about a third of a game longer between errors. However, that fails to reflect the fact that over 98% of the games Starlin Castro has played SS he played the entire game compared to under 85% for Jose Valentin.

 

[brett05]

Take total errors at ss divided by games played at ss. Did I make a math error?

 

[dabynsky]

Take total errors at ss divided by games played at ss. Did I make a math error?

And I've shown how silly that comparison is since less than 85% of the time Valentin played the whole game at SS compared to 98% for Castro.

And the thread topic was about error total in a season. Which number is bigger 37 or 29?

 

[DewsSox79]

Speaking of being a bit hypocritical considering how offended you were over a social group name here...

huh?

 

[DewsSox79]

whats even more amusing is that there is a convo about castro and valentin in the same sentence about defense.

back to the topic.

castro isnt a SS, and im pretty certain he wont be the starting ss next year. just a hunch like the cubs NOT getting Dunn, Fielder, Roberts, Pujols, etc. just a hunch. thats all.

 

[Capt. Serious]

Castro can flat out rake but his defense has serious issues.

 

[Rice Cube]

I think unless a better defensive option comes along within the system they'll just stick with Castro for the next couple seasons. This will probably also hinge on what kind of power he has so they can try to move him into a corner (3B, OF)...but without a viable alternative, Castro is the starting SS by default. And there's no real reason to move him off SS while the team sucks.

 

[dabynsky]

I think unless a better defensive option comes along within the system they'll just stick with Castro for the next couple seasons. This will probably also hinge on what kind of power he has so they can try to move him into a corner (3B, OF)...but without a viable alternative, Castro is the starting SS by default. And there's no real reason to move him off SS while the team sucks.

You're clearly not a smart fan...