Starlin Castro's Error Tracker (2013 Edition!)

[chibears55]

Average up to .243 :yeah:

maybe we can start a Castr - O - meter thread for his batting Avg....

 

[KBisBack!]

Average up to .243 :yeah:

You say that like a .243 average is something to be happy about. He was hitting like .260 a couple weeks ago.

In fact both of future "super stars" of this team are both hitting .243.

That is not something to build around.

 

[Willrust]

Tony Gwynn hit .249 through June of 1988. http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=gwynnto01&year=1988&t=b
George Brett hit .265 for the 2nd half of 1978. http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=brettge01&year=1978&t=b
Wade Boggs hit .259 for the entire 1992 season. http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/boggswa01.shtml

3 of the best hitters of our generation had poor production over extended periods of time. Phew, good thing those franchises didn't build around them!

 

[The Bandit]

You say that like a .243 average is something to be happy about. He was hitting like .260 a couple weeks ago.

In fact both of future "super stars" of this team are both hitting .243.

That is not something to build around.

:facepalm: it's an improvement over what he's been doing the last few weeks, debbie downer.

 

[KBisBack!]

Tony Gwynn hit .249 through June of 1988. http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=gwynnto01&year=1988&t=b
George Brett hit .265 for the 2nd half of 1978. http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=brettge01&year=1978&t=b
Wade Boggs hit .259 for the entire 1992 season. http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/boggswa01.shtml

3 of the best hitters of our generation had poor production over extended periods of time. Phew, good thing those franchises didn't build around them!

Typically laughably dumb logic by the village idiot.

Yeah but they also had decades of extended periods of great production. Rizzo has maybe weeks of above average production.

Gwynn also ended up winning the batting crown in 1988. If Rizzo wins the Batting Crown this year I will be happy to say you told me so.

Gwynn was also a career .300 hitter with 2 Batting Crowns already won at that point and not a career .246 hitter like Rizzo is 200 games into his career.

George Brett had also won a batting title by 1978, Rizzo has not and even then his .265 BA is quite a bit better than Rizzo's .243. Most of his .265 second half AVG was due to the month of August when he spent time on the DL, rushed back to the lineup and hit .179 for the month. It was also the only season between 1976 and 1983 he didn't hit .300 for the season.

By 1992, Boggs had already won FIVE batting titles and hit over .330 or better EIGHT times. Again, Rizzo is a CAREER .246 HITTER.

The one little detail that appears to be far too advanced for you to grasp is that all three of those players had already established themselves as not just average, or even above average players. They were all established GREAT players.

Rizzo has yet to even establish himself as average.

To compare Rizzo to those three players is even beyond rcub stupid.

Really?? Comparing Rizzo to 3 Hall of Fame players??

Dumb. Really, really, really, really dumb.

 

[KBisBack!]

:facepalm: it's an improvement over what he's been doing the last few weeks, debbie downer.

1 average game does not make up for weeks of poor production.

 

[The Bandit]

Typically laughably dumb logic by the village idiot.

Yeah but they also had decades of extended periods of great production. Rizzo has maybe weeks of above average production.

Gwynn also ended up winning the batting crown in 1988. If Rizzo wins the Batting Crown this year I will be happy to say you told me so.

Gwynn was also a career .300 hitter with 2 Batting Crowns already won at that point and not a career .246 hitter like Rizzo is 200 games into his career.

George Brett had also won a batting title by 1978, Rizzo has not and even then his .265 BA is quite a bit better than Rizzo's .243. Most of his .265 second half AVG was due to the month of August when he spent time on the DL, rushed back to the lineup and hit .179 for the month. It was also the only season between 1976 and 1983 he didn't hit .300 for the season.

By 1992, Boggs had already won FIVE batting titles and hit over .330 or better EIGHT times. Again, Rizzo is a CAREER .246 HITTER.

The one little detail that appears to be far too advanced for you to grasp is that all three of those players had already established themselves as not just average, or even above average players. They were all established GREAT players.

Rizzo has yet to even establish himself as average.

To compare Rizzo to those three players is even beyond rcub stupid.

Really?? Comparing Rizzo to 3 Hall of Fame players??

Dumb. Really, really, really, really dumb.

You're so short sighted :andruw:

 

[Willrust]

To compare Rizzo to those three players is even beyond rcub stupid.

Not comparing shit. Just saying that it is extremely short sighted to take stats from a few months and automatically say that the player is what the stats for that sample size say they are.

If you want to keep with your bullshit argument though, might want to lay off Castro considering his history.

 

[KBisBack!]

You are too fucking dumb to continue.

 

[The Bandit]

Not comparing shit. Just saying that it is extremely short sighted to take stats from a few months and automatically say that the player is what the stats for that sample size say they are.

If you want to keep with your bullshit argument though, might want to lay off Castro considering his history.

History doesn't matter, unless it helps his argument, duh.

 

[Willrust]

You are too fucking dumb to continue.

Ditto.

 

[brett05]

Tony Gwynn hit .249 through June of 1988. http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=gwynnto01&year=1988&t=b
George Brett hit .265 for the 2nd half of 1978. http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=brettge01&year=1978&t=b
Wade Boggs hit .259 for the entire 1992 season. http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/boggswa01.shtml

3 of the best hitters of our generation had poor production over extended periods of time. Phew, good thing those franchises didn't build around them!

Wait, you just compared Rizzo with three Hall of Fame players that already had resumes from your post?????

Sounds like Cub Logic there. (No offense to the baseball fans that happen to also be Cub Fans)

 

[almanbulls]

Barney, of course, has 0 errors so far this year. He had a record last year for most games in a row without an error in the NL. And 3 outs away from the MLB record. Is he going to go for it this season?
As for castro, isnt the SS supposed to get the most errors?

 

[Rice Cube]

Wait, you just compared Rizzo with three Hall of Fame players that already had resumes from your post?????

Sounds like Cub Logic there. (No offense to the baseball fans that happen to also be Cub Fans)

His point was that it's still too early to tell whether Rizzo is a bust or a cornerstone, so why not wait it out?

Shades of gray, y'all.

 

[Rice Cube]

Barney, of course, has 0 errors so far this year. He had a record last year for most games in a row without an error in the NL. And 3 outs away from the MLB record. Is he going to go for it this season?
As for castro, isnt the SS supposed to get the most errors?

The SS normally gets the most chances on the diamond (aside from the catcher and 1B for obvious reasons) and therefore would statistically be most likely to get the most errors on the team.

 

[KBisBack!]

His point was that it's still too early to tell whether Rizzo is a bust or a cornerstone, so why not wait it out?

Shades of gray, y'all.

If that was his point, his fucking examples were terrible.

ALL of the players he was trying to compare Rizzo to in their 'slumps' were all established superstars who had won batting titles when they had their slumps.

Rizzo is not an established superstar nor has won batting titles which makes the comparison utterly moronic.

 

[Mr. Cub]

How did a joke thread about Castro errors turn into a comparing Rizzo to HOF'ers argument? CCS is awesome!

 

[KBisBack!]

Well Castro's continued poor production at the plate was brought up with caused a Strawman reaction from a poster who has a fetish to argue everything I say lol

 

[X]

Up to 11. He had a real solid month...then the month ended.

 

[dabynsky]

Moves into a tie with Alexei Ramirez for most errors in baseball at SS.