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I do it every year now.

My W2 shows up and I throw it into TurboTax and then realize I gotta wait until the 2nd week of February for TD Ameritrade to issue my 1099.
 

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I do it every year now.

My W2 shows up and I throw it into TurboTax and then realize I gotta wait until the 2nd week of February for TD Ameritrade to issue my 1099.
So annoying man. Past two years, I wait until 3rd week of Feb to file. And past 2 years I recieve some random statement (like a 1099 for an HSA) mid March. Like get your shit together!
 

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So annoying man. Past two years, I wait until 3rd week of Feb to file. And past 2 years I recieve some random statement (like a 1099 for an HSA) mid March. Like get your shit together!

I'd bet TDA has the calculations automated pretty well, but the PDF generation and print are likely the big hold ups.

The world of taxes and PDFs and scanning and printing is living in this bubble from like 20-30 years ago.
 

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I'd bet TDA has the calculations automated pretty well, but the PDF generation and print are likely the big hold ups.

The world of taxes and PDFs and scanning and printing is living in this bubble from like 20-30 years ago.
The whole process of filing your taxes just pisses me off. Why can't all these companies forward this shit to the IRS and let them sort it out. Supposedly they know exactly how much you owe/or are owed anyways, but they are like 'nah fam, you gotta figure out the number yourself'. LIke *****, you been taking my money all year, time for YOU to settle up. **** am I running around gathering gobs of documents for.
 

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The whole process of filing your taxes just pisses me off. Why can't all these companies forward this shit to the IRS and let them sort it out. Supposedly they know exactly how much you owe/or are owed anyways, but they are like 'nah fam, you gotta figure out the number yourself'. LIke *****, you been taking my money all year, time for YOU to settle up. **** am I running around gathering gobs of documents for.

It puts the onus on the tax payer to keep track of and report all income and losses, so the IRS never has to be audited themselves, they merely audit that you are "following the rules".

Its what allows the wealthy to find ways to funnel their money thru lower-tax or non-taxed channels or report losses that significantly offset or completely wipe out their tax burden.

Basically, its the way we are all "allowed" to cheat on our taxes, but in general the more money you have, the more you can avoid paying tax on it.

On the flip side we get taxed when we make personal income, sales tax on almost any major asset you buy, and taxed again on the asset's appreciation when you sell it (less if you hold it 12+ months and apply Long-Term Capital Gains Tax instead of Income Tax).

We need a major overhaul of our tax system, but its gonna be hard work, and we don't really do hard work in the upper echelons of American society.

Talk to people and answer e-mails/texts, is about the limit of the work difficulty that most Americans making 250k+ will do.

Imagine our Congress needing to spend weeks hashing out new/fair tax laws that make enough sense to all tax-filing Americans that they can still function.
 

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It puts the onus on the tax payer to keep track of and report all income and losses, so the IRS never has to be audited themselves, they merely audit that you are "following the rules".

Its what allows the wealthy to find ways to funnel their money thru lower-tax or non-taxed channels or report losses that significantly offset or completely wipe out their tax burden.

Basically, its the way we are all "allowed" to cheat on our taxes, but in general the more money you have, the more you can avoid paying tax on it.

On the flip side we get taxed when we make personal income, sales tax on almost any major asset you buy, and taxed again on the asset's appreciation when you sell it (less if you hold it 12+ months and apply Long-Term Capital Gains Tax instead of Income Tax).

We need a major overhaul of our tax system, but its gonna be hard work, and we don't really do hard work in the upper echelons of American society.

Talk to people and answer e-mails/texts, is about the limit of the work difficulty that most Americans making 250k+ will do.

Imagine our Congress needing to spend weeks hashing out new/fair tax laws that make enough sense to all tax-filing Americans that they can still function.
I was reading some stories today about crypto bro's who are going to have north of a 6-figure tax liability that won't be able to cover it. Basically, bro's made a killing on AMC/GME/Crypto, bought and sold within a year, and reinvested it all into crypto which is down big now. And since alot of these people are borderline idiots and/or to young to know better, are basically fucked.

They story I read, was a guy who bought 60k of those three things (AMC/GME/Crypto) and ended up making roughly $1MM. His tax bill is $411,000. But he only has 100k on hand because he took all his shit and put it into BTC whic is now down 50% lol.
 

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I was reading some stories today about crypto bro's who are going to have north of a 6-figure tax liability that won't be able to cover it. Basically, bro's made a killing on AMC/GME/Crypto, bought and sold within a year, and reinvested it all into crypto which is down big now. And since alot of these people are borderline idiots and/or to young to know better, are basically fucked.

They story I read, was a guy who bought 60k of those three things (AMC/GME/Crypto) and ended up making roughly $1MM. His tax bill is $411,000. But he only has 100k on hand because he took all his shit and put it into BTC whic is now down 50% lol.

Yeah the tax liability is something I keep trying to get my friends/acquaintances to take notice on.

If you hold it less than 12 months, you owe income taxes.

If you hold it more than 12 months, you owe Long-Term Capital Gains taxes.

Around this time of year I get many "How do I taxes on crypto? Me stupid, member." texts.

Maybe that's the secret sauce people don't talk about.... understanding that the taxes work more/less the same on all investment assets.

I don't mind the strategy those guys employed to re-invest, but ignoring the tax liability and then keeping no reserve funding in place for taxes, well the tax lawyers have job security at least lol.
 

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It puts the onus on the tax payer to keep track of and report all income and losses, so the IRS never has to be audited themselves, they merely audit that you are "following the rules".

Its what allows the wealthy to find ways to funnel their money thru lower-tax or non-taxed channels or report losses that significantly offset or completely wipe out their tax burden.

Basically, its the way we are all "allowed" to cheat on our taxes, but in general the more money you have, the more you can avoid paying tax on it.

On the flip side we get taxed when we make personal income, sales tax on almost any major asset you buy, and taxed again on the asset's appreciation when you sell it (less if you hold it 12+ months and apply Long-Term Capital Gains Tax instead of Income Tax).

We need a major overhaul of our tax system, but its gonna be hard work, and we don't really do hard work in the upper echelons of American society.

Talk to people and answer e-mails/texts, is about the limit of the work difficulty that most Americans making 250k+ will do.

Imagine our Congress needing to spend weeks hashing out new/fair tax laws that make enough sense to all tax-filing Americans that they can still function.
The IRS is more the way it is due to corporate lobbying and Congress/Presidents slowly taking away its powers, funding, and abilities.

The IRS can actually do pre-filled returns if Congress would let them. All an individual would do is review the numbers, sign, pay if needed, and life would go on... Why didn't this happen? Corporate lobbying, mainly from, as you may guess, the tax firms, not wanting it because it would destroy their business.




 

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Yeah the tax liability is something I keep trying to get my friends/acquaintances to take notice on.

Pfft taxes shmaxes... only poor losers pay taxes.

Tell your buddies to pick this book up and learn how to cheat the system like a pro...


The whole book is nuts but the chapter on Bill Koch's little tax scam might be my favorite.
 

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I'd love to see the IRS take me to court to explain to a judge that I didn't report enough of my losses.
 

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Anyone still in Crypto, or specifically XRP? I own more than I probably should and have been intrigued by this SEC charade since it went down. I feel positive about an upcoming settlement or dismissal.
 

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Anyone still in Crypto, or specifically XRP? I own more than I probably should and have been intrigued by this SEC charade since it went down. I feel positive about an upcoming settlement or dismissal.
I bought 100 bux worth years ago based on FOMO lol. Kinda forgot about it tbh. Do you have good news for me? ?
 

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I bought 100 bux worth years ago based on FOMO lol. Kinda forgot about it tbh. Do you have good news for me? ?
Not really except I'm still a believer! Let's go!
 

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I for the most part stay away from yield farming or highly degenerate coins. The only "risky" coin I'm involved in are CAKE and BABYCAKE.

CAKE is the token for Pancakeswap which is one of the two largest exchanges for the binance smart chain. Its a coin that is routinely offered high APY in decentralized finance.

BABYCAKE is new and far riskier coin but its an interesting concept because it pays out CAKE directly to your wallet for simply holding it. You don't need to be in a pool or staking it anywhere.

I was in VET since 0.009 and made a lot of money off it but I recently liquidated those profits into CAKE.

I have a ton of XRP and have been holding it over a year now so thankfully I got in cheap and have already grandfathered into long term capital gains on it. XRP holders are being blessed with a ton of free money from all of the airdrops that are scheduled to happen. Flare Network was announced last year and there was a snapshot of how much XRP everyone held back in December 2020. This number was used as a basis to figure out how much FLR was to be airdropped to XRP holders. Then another company called Flare Finance announced the development of their own dapp and that they would be taking a snapshot of FLR holders one month after the launch of Flare Network. So Flare Finance is airdropping DFLR which people have to then swap for YFLR which is the coin that will hold actual value. All of this is a decentralized finance network.

Well just days ago we got another bombshell news drop about this. Turns out Flare Network decided to create a permanent test network that runs in parallel. They call it a "canary network" but its a direct clone of Flare Finance using a different name. Its going to be called the Songbird Network, it will launch before Flare Network and XRP holders will be airdropped SGB for the Songbird Network. Well the news didn't end there because Flare Finance then said since this new testing network was being launched then they too will be launching ExFi aka Experimental Finance which is the name they're using on the Songbird network and ExFi will be airdropping SFLR.

So basically, I'm being blessed with a **** ton of free coins/money and all of these coins are being given to me to use in these decentralized finance networks to farm the assets I already own such as XRP, XDC, CAKE etc. I'm basically going to become my own bank in terms of loaning out my assets in the networks for a return.

The goal is passive income. Growing the amount of passive income I get on a daily/weekly basis so that its more than my current income. Which then enables me to retire altogether before even entering my 40's. I'm set for life.

I don't have time to get in depth on the rest of my portfolio but I'm currently holding XRP, CAKE, BABYCAKE, XDC, DOS, BID, ADA, BTR, ETH, VTHO and for shits and giggles a few hundred bucks of SHIB in case that piece of shit decides to pull a DOGE and pump hard as hell months down the road.

P.S. As a simple warning though, stay away from DOS. I have a feeling that is a chinese project that is at risk of death. Its the only investment I have I'm roughly $8000 in the hole on but frankly I don't give a shit since capital losses are only a problem when they exceed capital gains. And I'm far from that.

P.S.S. If you believe in VET, you should buy a fat stack of VTHO. Its dirt cheap and pumps hard as **** along with VET.
CAKE down 78% over the last year. VET down 75%
 

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