Sweet Spot Blog: Who's better: White Sox versus Cubs

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I would say that the Sox attendance is a prevalent subject. Even the Sox are trying to increase their ticket sales with their "One more game" strategy. It's definitely an issue for the Sox, and I see no need for Sox fans to insult Cubs fans cuz of their own attendance issue. :dunno:

http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/whi...-pulling-out-stops-to-bump-attendance-in-2015

It's completely appropriate to bring up the attendance thing. The sox "fans" try so hard to pretend it's invalid because they can't explain it or defend it. It's really hard for them to work around so they naturally want it to go away. At least it would be convenient for them if they did. Whether it's the ballpark or the team, at least the people going to Wrigley are fans of something. The sox fans aren so much sox fans as much as they are people who don't like the Cubs or in some cases, they identify with the sox because they're from the south side more than they're actually a fan of the sox. The trolling in this forum and their woeful attendance back up that sox "fans" have a negative definition.

 

[DewsSox79]

Kind of like the Sox fans "typical Cubs fan, doesn't know anything about baseball" trick, or maybe "half the Cubs fans are tourists" trick? We both take jabs at each other here and there. He made a joke and I thought it was funny.

Hopefully the additions you guys made brings more people to the ballpark, as I am not bothered by it either way. I'll "enjoy myself and drink a beer at Wrigley" trick. Meanwhile, the Sox management is doing everything they can to bring more people to the seats. Now it's up to actual Sox fans to show up, as I am looking forward to future battles against the Sox. :dunno:

Edit to add:

Also, if you want to be technical, in a thread titled "who's better: the White Sox vs Cubs", I'd say that fan participation and financial income due to said fan participation, plays a part of future financial strength.

Edge: Cubs

technically JR own the white sox as a hobby. its not his "business" that he banks on. As he has stated time and time again all he wants to do with the sox is break even which is great for us sox fans.


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technically JR own the white sox as a hobby. its not his "business" that he banks on. As he has stated time and time again all he wants to do with the sox is break even which is great for us sox fans.


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Hobby is a technical term? And then you go on to put forth this stuff about breaking even after saying its "technically" a hobby. Ha ha. That's like saying Altuve is "technically" in the national league!

Don't stop...please don't stop with your nonsense. It gets better and better.

 

[DewsSox79]

Hobby is a technical term? And then you go on to put forth this stuff about breaking even after saying its "technically" a hobby. Ha ha. That's like saying Altuve is "technically" in the national league!

Don't stop...please don't stop with your nonsense. It gets better and better.

ummm. its actual fact that jr owns the sox for hobby. its been stated multiple times that baseball is his life. he has his hands in every cookie jar where he makes his money. these are just facts. if you cant handle facts i can get you a subscription to the national enquirer. now run along, find a quiet place and think hard on what you will say next.

let me guess, no quiet space? couldnt think? I bet the "troll" comeback is looming.

your altuve comment was awesome yet does not apply to your debate.

keep up the good work!




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[2323]

ummm. its actual fact that jr owns the sox for hobby. its been stated multiple times that baseball is his life. he has his hands in every cookie jar where he makes his money. these are just facts. if you cant handle facts i can get you a subscription to the national enquirer. now run along, find a quiet place and think hard on what you will say next.

let me guess, no quiet space? couldnt think? I bet the "troll" comeback is looming.

your altuve comment was awesome yet does not apply to your debate.

keep up the good work!




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Ha ha. I don't even care. But what's funny is you using conflicting terminology.

But you keep trying to climb out of this hole. It's like every other post is the same thing for this. If you're going to troll the Cubs forums, it might help if you were good at it. And I don't mean "legend in your own mind good" or "Mr Roper chuckling at his own jokes" good.

It's fun watching you wear clown shoes. And I don't even care if you're really crying inside. You're very entertaining but you should probably go look for your organ grinder.

 

[Parade_Rain]

Ha ha. I don't even care. But what's funny is you using conflicting terminology.

But you keep trying to climb out of this hole. It's like every other post is the same thing for this. If you're going to troll the Cubs forums, it might help if you were good at it. And I don't mean "legend in your own mind good" or "Mr Roper chuckling at his own jokes" good.

It's fun watching you wear clown shoes. And I don't even care if you're really crying inside. You're very entertaining but you should probably go look for your organ grinder.

You seem to be so caught up on trolling that you didn't comprehend "hobby" properly. Wealthy people own teams because they can and it's a source of enjoyment for them. It isn't their primary source of wealth, unlike the Bears ownership.

 

[Bear Pride]

Hobby is a technical term? And then you go on to put forth this stuff about breaking even after saying its "technically" a hobby. Ha ha. That's like saying Altuve is "technically" in the national league!

Don't stop...please don't stop with your nonsense. It gets better and better.

I do think he used the word 'Technically' in response to my post, and you're blowing that out of proportion a little bit. :dunno:

 

[Bear Pride]

ummm. its actual fact that jr owns the sox for hobby. its been stated multiple times that baseball is his life. he has his hands in every cookie jar where he makes his money. these are just facts. if you cant handle facts i can get you a subscription to the national enquirer. now run along, find a quiet place and think hard on what you will say next.

let me guess, no quiet space? couldnt think? I bet the "troll" comeback is looming.

your altuve comment was awesome yet does not apply to your debate.

keep up the good work!




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I don't understand you saying the Sox is JR's hobby, and then stating That "Baseball" is his life/Business? Did you mean Basketball? Cuz if so, as a big Bulls fan, he better start handling his 'Business' a little better.

However, if that is really JR's commitment to the Sox, I do empathize with you Sox fans as that would piss me off. Actually, it would be reason enough for me to not show up at the ballpark. :dunno:

Say what you want about Ricketts, he does seem to have the passion to bring a winner to Wrigley, which is way more than the morons that used to own the Cubs.

 

[Icculus]

I don't understand you saying the Sox is JR's hobby, and then stating That "Baseball" is his life/Business? Did you mean Basketball? Cuz if so, as a big Bulls fan, he better start handling his 'Business' a little better.

However, if that is really JR's commitment to the Sox, I do empathize with you Sox fans as that would piss me off. Actually, it would be reason enough for me to not show up at the ballpark. :dunno:

Say what you want about Ricketts, he does seem to have the passion to bring a winner to Wrigley, which is way more than the morons that used to own the Cubs.

He means that baseball is his love and passion. In fact, Jerry was quoted saying 05 meant just as much to him as all six Bulls titles. Take what you will from that.

 

[Bear Pride]

He means that baseball is his love and passion. In fact, Jerry was quoted saying 05 meant just as much to him as all six Bulls titles. Take what you will from that.

I see, then I definitely don't understand him being happy with the team breaking even. I understand the point now, to just keep it going cuz of his love for baseball, but if it was my passion, I would want it to be better than that, and I would do everything in my power to get the fans to show up and see my passion. And I'd start by not making those statements. :dunno:

Sure wish the MF'er would sell the Bulls then as well.

 

[Parade_Rain]

I see, then I definitely don't understand him being happy with the team breaking even. I understand the point now, to just keep it going cuz of his love for baseball, but if it was my passion, I would want it to be better than that, and I would do everything in my power to get the fans to show up and see my passion. And I'd start by not making those statements. :dunno:

Sure wish the MF'er would sell the Bulls then as well.

You've misunderstood the point of breaking even. It means within reason he would go after a player to win and not worry about making a profit. He gets his profit from a primary source, not his hobby, the Sox.

 

[Bear Pride]

You've misunderstood the point of breaking even. It means within reason he would go after a player to win and not worry about making a profit. He gets his profit from a primary source, not his hobby, the Sox.

Actually, I did understand the point, I just didn't agree with it as I think differently.

 

[Parade_Rain]

I agree, but when you have as many million$ as JR you definitely would think differently.

 

[Bear Pride]

I agree, but when you have as many million$ as JR you definitely would think differently.

It just seems like a half ass way going about something your passionate about to me. he's passionate about baseball, but he's ok with his version being mediocre? Not logical in my mind. Besides, if he get's income from other sources, it should be easy to spend a little more money on your 'passion'. :dunno:

 

[TC in Mississippi]

Actually, I did understand the point, I just didn't agree with it as I think differently.

The fact is that Jerry Reinsdorf owns a small percentage of the White Sox but has an agreement with his partners, most of whom are baseball fans btw, that he will not lose money for them. He more or less runs the team on break even budget. As far as I know he's one of the few to do that. The Bulls on the other hand have been run as a full on business and have been very lucrative. Reinsdorf's will leaves his son in charge of the Bulls (as he mostly has been since 2010) but recommends that his heirs sell the White Sox. He knows his family are the not the baseball fans he is and feels that they can profit most in a sale. Knowing all that hobby fits pretty well.

 

[2323]

You seem to be so caught up on trolling that you didn't comprehend "hobby" properly. Wealthy people own teams because they can and it's a source of enjoyment for them. It isn't their primary source of wealth, unlike the Bears ownership.

Would have made sense until the break even part. Therein lies the conflict.

And I'm not trolling at all. I'm not in the sox forum saying things with the specific purpose of pushing people off. The guy I was actually responding to is a sox troll, who for some reason was spewing on about the sox, and said something contradictory. His very existence in this forum is that of a troll. Calling him out on it is not trolling. Nor does not trying to maximize revenue make it a hobby.

 

[nickofypres]

Clearly the author is a Cubs fan.

Article talks about the hype of the Cubs' prospects. Okay that is fine. But he never once even considers that they're not all going to pan out (which, they're not, some are going to fail). Not to mention never brings up the White Sox prospects (4 of which are in top 100 btw) in Rodon, Anderon, Johnson, and Spenser. Conveniently puts Quintana at #2 because he can't admit that Sale-Samardizja-Quintana is better than Lester-Arrieta-Hamels (which I mean, come on). Even if Abreu had a "Miguel Cabrera year", despite the fact that Abreu had a better year than Cabrera last year, 1b would still be a coin flip.

There is really nothing I love more than reading some subjective journalism. And look, I'm not trying to bring down the Cubs, but this season the Sox are going to be better. Cubs are a year or two away (depending on how the kids play), and the Sox are looking to contend.

That article just seems like something that should be on bleed clubbie blue, or bleacher report, and not on ESPN.

 

[Parade_Rain]

Would have made sense until the break even part. Therein lies the conflict.

And I'm not trolling at all. I'm not in the sox forum saying things with the specific purpose of pushing people off. The guy I was actually responding to is a sox troll, who for some reason was spewing on about the sox, and said something contradictory. His very existence in this forum is that of a troll. Calling him out on it is not trolling. Nor does not trying to maximize revenue make it a hobby.

You need to slow down and think before posting. You called Dews a troll. He wasn't trolling. You are too caught up on that word just because we have a couple of Sox fans in the Cubs forum. When Dews trolls, it's prety obvious.

As an example of "break even", I have primary sources of income. Because of those primary sources of income, I can have pet projects that are fine as long as I "break even".

 

[Bear Pride]

Clearly the author is a Cubs fan.

Article talks about the hype of the Cubs' prospects. Okay that is fine. But he never once even considers that they're not all going to pan out (which, they're not, some are going to fail). Not to mention never brings up the White Sox prospects (4 of which are in top 100 btw) in Rodon, Anderon, Johnson, and Spenser. Conveniently puts Quintana at #2 because he can't admit that Sale-Samardizja-Quintana is better than Lester-Arrieta-Hamels (which I mean, come on). Even if Abreu had a "Miguel Cabrera year", despite the fact that Abreu had a better year than Cabrera last year, 1b would still be a coin flip.

There is really nothing I love more than reading some subjective journalism. And look, I'm not trying to bring down the Cubs, but this season the Sox are going to be better. Cubs are a year or two away (depending on how the kids play), and the Sox are looking to contend.

That article just seems like something that should be on bleed clubbie blue, or bleacher report, and not on ESPN.

I didn't get that feeling at all. He gave Abreu the edge, and said he thought he could be even better. He addressed the Samardzja vs Quintana, and gave his opinion that he thought Arrieta is for real. He still gave the Sox the edge in 2 out of the 3 starters.

And why you go on about the Sox prospects, you completely discount the ability of the Cubs prospects doing well, even though they are considered to be the best prospects in the MLB. I'd say you're being more of a homer than he is.

Besides, he's from CT. And I'm tired of people saying the Cubs are two years out cuz of their young prospects. Our two rosters compare more favorably than you want to admit, starting with both teams having the same record last year!

 

[nickofypres]

I didn't get that feeling at all. He gave Abreu the edge, and said he thought he could be even better. He addressed the Samardzja vs Quintana, and gave his opinion that he thought Arrieta is for real. He still gave the Sox the edge in 2 out of the 3 starters.

And why you go on about the Sox prospects, you completely discount the ability of the Cubs prospects doing well, even though they are considered to be the best prospects in the MLB. I'd say you're being more of a homer than he is.

Besides, he's from CT. And I'm tired of people saying the Cubs are two years out cuz of their young prospects. Our two rosters compare more favorably than you want to admit, starting with both teams having the same record last year!

He said Abreu was better, but he also said it was a "coin flip". Arrieta has had 1 solid season, I'm not saying he can't, or won't, have a one this year but Quintana has proven to be successful. Its just silly of him.

I'm not being "more of a homer than he is". I'm just saying that its there is a change some of the Cubs' prospects don't pan out (and Sox too, even though he never brought them up). My beef was that he's pimping Cubs prospects left and right, but not any of the Sox ones? That's pretty one sided.

Why is the two-year mark so frustrating? Again, Solar, Alcantara (sp?), Bryant (once he is called up), Baez, could go through growing pains. I also said Cubs were one or two years away, if all the Cubs youngins' come up and perform then its this year they're going for it. And I think the same records in '14 is more of an indictment of the Cubs than the Sox. It took the Cubs how many years of a rebuild to get to that many wins? Sox did it in their first year of a rebuild.