T-Wolves interested in trading for Butler

[Novak]

Bosh's defensive ability is what made that Heat defense so potent. So yes his offensive role took a backseat to Lebron and Wade, but he was still way more valuable to the Heat than Love ever was or will be with the Cavs.

But sure, the only benefit was keeping Bosh away from everyone else in the East.

not a chance in hell that it was the bi-product of forming the big 3.

Thanks for figuring this all out for the 98% of us that are Special person, chisox. Appreciate the knowledge bombs you drop here.

 

[Novak]

Are we talking to the same guy that said Kevin Durant wouldnt make the Bulls better?

Yeah, the Bulls are rebuilding.

 

[SilenceS]

Yeah, the Bulls are rebuilding.

Zero leadership skills and not a good fit were his exact words. Jimmy Butler the face of the franchise doe.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

My point is teams target players they know a rival team covets. It's the nature of competition.

The rest of your post means next to nothing, so I'm not even going to bother with it, let's just focus our attention here. I don't know the full amount of teams that were going after LA, other than the Spurs, Lakers, and Blazers. What you're suggesting here is that those three teams (and others, again I'm not which other teams) targeted LaMarcus Aldridge not because he was coming off a 20/10 season and can specifically help their team, but rather to block other teams from getting him. That's the sole purpose of signing a guy like Aldridge, and paying him $19 million this season?

So here's a follow-up question: Why play him? If the Spurs already achieved the goal - in your words - of blocking him from going to 29 other teams, why bother giving him minutes whatsoever when you already know that Spurs are going to be in contention in the West anyways?

You also have used the examples of Love and Bosh. Well what the **** do Aldridge, Love, and Bosh have in common? Spoiler alert, all three of those players are all-stars and can help a franchise win, so of fucking course all teams are going to covet them.

By your logic, guys like Jodie Meeks should be due for a MAJOR payday, because you only sign them to block other teams from getting him, right?

Your logic/reasoning/idea is just awful. Stop. You are not some clairvoyant sports mind that sees things others don't. You're an anonymous zilch on a message board who does a bikram yoga stretch to make a point.

 

[SilenceS]

The rest of your post means next to nothing, so I'm not even going to bother with it, let's just focus our attention here. I don't know the full amount of teams that were going after LA, other than the Spurs, Lakers, and Blazers. What you're suggesting here is that those three teams (and others, again I'm not which other teams) targeted LaMarcus Aldridge not because he was coming off a 20/10 season and can specifically help their team, but rather to block other teams from getting him. That's the sole purpose of signing a guy like Aldridge, and paying him $19 million this season?

So here's a follow-up question: Why play him? If the Spurs already achieved the goal - in your words - of blocking him from going to 29 other teams, why bother giving him minutes whatsoever when you already know that Spurs are going to be in contention in the West anyways?

You also have used the examples of Love and Bosh. Well what the **** do Aldridge, Love, and Bosh have in common? Spoiler alert, all three of those players are all-stars and can help a franchise win, so of fucking course all teams are going to covet them.

By your logic, guys like Jodie Meeks should be due for a MAJOR payday, because you only sign them to block other teams from getting him, right?

Your logic/reasoning/idea is just awful. Stop. You are not some clairvoyant sports mind that sees things others don't. You're an anonymous zilch on a message board who does a bikram yoga stretch to make a point.

I will nominate this for post of the year for the ending alone. Novak, mark it down

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

If Scoot wants to get back into my good graces, he'll change ChiSox' username to 'Mr. Clairvoyant.'

 

[ChiSoxCity]

The rest of your post means next to nothing, so I'm not even going to bother with it, let's just focus our attention here. I don't know the full amount of teams that were going after LA, other than the Spurs, Lakers, and Blazers. What you're suggesting here is that those three teams (and others, again I'm not which other teams) targeted LaMarcus Aldridge not because he was coming off a 20/10 season and can specifically help their team, but rather to block other teams from getting him. That's the sole purpose of signing a guy like Aldridge, and paying him $19 million this season?

So here's a follow-up question: Why play him? If the Spurs already achieved the goal - in your words - of blocking him from going to 29 other teams, why bother giving him minutes whatsoever when you already know that Spurs are going to be in contention in the West anyways?

You also have used the examples of Love and Bosh. Well what the **** do Aldridge, Love, and Bosh have in common? Spoiler alert, all three of those players are all-stars and can help a franchise win, so of fucking course all teams are going to covet them.

By your logic, guys like Jodie Meeks should be due for a MAJOR payday, because you only sign them to block other teams from getting him, right?

Your logic/reasoning/idea is just awful. Stop. You are not some clairvoyant sports mind that sees things others don't. You're an anonymous zilch on a message board who does a bikram yoga stretch to make a point.

Holy **** Batman. I know it's increasingly difficult to read with context on the web these days, what with the state of miseducation in public schools. But atleast make an attempt. I won't bother responding to the purposeful misinterpretation of my comments or the shitty little straw man arguments. Do better or don't bother.


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[Novak]

Holy **** Batman. I know it's increasingly difficult to read with context on the web these days, what with the state of miseducation in public schools. But atleast make an attempt. I won't bother responding to the purposeful misinterpretation of my comments or the shitty little straw man arguments. Do better or don't bother.


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[Gustavus Adolphus]

Holy **** Batman. I know it's increasingly difficult to read with context on the web these days, what with the state of miseducation in public schools. But atleast make an attempt. I won't bother responding to the purposeful misinterpretation of my comments or the shitty little straw man arguments. Do better or don't bother.


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Anything you say skippy.

 

[dreadpirateroberts]

With the draft being weak after the first two picks, I'd rather not have the #5 pick. My dream trade with Minny would be Wiggins, LaVine, and Dieng for Butler, #14, and maybe Gibson.

 

[FirstTimer]

With the draft being weak after the first two picks, I'd rather not have the #5 pick. My dream trade with Minny would be Wiggins, LaVine, and Dieng for Butler, #14, and maybe Gibson.

:aj:

Holy shit.

 

[Raskolnikov]

Yes, obviously Aldridge is a good player. They signed him primarily for that reason.

My point is teams target players they know a rival team covets. It's the nature of competition.

In the case of Kevin Love, Cleveland gave up a lot to get him when they clearly had no role for him. 3-pt specialist is not an appropriate role for one of the best PFs in the game. Love, like Bosh, has been relegated to being LeBron's 3-pt *****. Stats and performance got significantly worse after they joined LeBron. You cannot ignore that the Bulls were favored to get both players before LeBron led teams swooped in at the last minute to get them.

In hindsight, the only real benefit of signing both players was to keep them away from rivals in the east and maintaining a competitive advantage over an extremely weak conference.


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I don't think we were ever in the running for Bosh. Maybe a Bosh/Wade joining Chicago was talked about. Never once did I think we were in Love sweepstakes.


The only reason I want to blow up Rose/Butler now is if their personalities cannot co-exist. We need to buy into Hoiball and learn to play basketball, not iso.

Both those players can fucking pass if they buy in, when Noah is your fucking "leader" this is the kind of crazy you get. This team is mentally fucked.

 

[RoseMVP1]

Now there's a report that says the only way Butler goes to the Wolves is if Wiggins is included. I myself think it would be stupid for the Wolves to send the pick with Wiggins just for Butler but we'll see.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

Now there's a report that says the only way Butler goes to the Wolves is if Wiggins is included. I myself think it would be stupid for the Wolves to send the pick with Wiggins just for Butler but we'll see.

From the T'Wolves perspective there is no way in hell I'd do that. Jimmy, as we sit here today, is better than Wiggins. That being said, I think we've seen as good as Jimmy is going to be. The potential on Wiggins is far and away what Jimmy offers.

 

[ChiSoxCity]

Wiggins has shown the potential to be a good offensive player.

Butler is the better player. Butler is the more complete player. Players like Butler are extremely rare in the NBA. He can guard 1s, 2s, 3s, and 4s on defense. He can run the point, and be a volume scorer when you need him too. Wiggins is years away, if ever, from doing any of this. He's not the second coming of Michael, so stop the madness.


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[Scoot26]

Wiggins has shown the potential to be a good offensive player.

Butler is the better player. Butler is the more complete player. Players like Butler are extremely rare in the NBA. He can guard 1s, 2s, 3s, and 4s on defense. He can run the point, and be a volume scorer when you need him too. Wiggins is years away, if ever, from doing any of this. He's not the second coming of Michael, so stop the madness.


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Who the **** said Wiggins is the second coming of Jordan?

Sent from the mod retirement home in Bakersfield, California.

 

[SilenceS]

Wiggins has shown the potential to be a good offensive player.

Butler is the better player. Butler is the more complete player. Players like Butler are extremely rare in the NBA. He can guard 1s, 2s, 3s, and 4s on defense. He can run the point, and be a volume scorer when you need him too. Wiggins is years away, if ever, from doing any of this. He's not the second coming of Michael, so stop the madness.


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Players like Butler are extremely rare, but Kevin Durant wouldnt add wins to the Bulls. This is not real life.

Also, I am almost positive you have never even seen a picture of Wiggins.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

Just unreal.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

Seriously, kudos to ChiSox for playing the long con.

 

[The Hawk]

Then they take the Boston deal at pick #3

I'd rather that they go after the Lakers number two pick along with one of their young dynamic players. The number three pick isn't worth much more than the number five pick in my mind this season.