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25-19-88, 82-10-81, 29-36-15, 22-17 or 28-20



Get Stalberg off the top line
 

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Absolutely. He was VERY slow out there last night, didn't move well, not adding any value at this point. Let him heal.





They lose the game in LA without him so I'd say he's adding value.



Way to pay attention to the game. Again put on your reading glasses and read what I typed about High Ankle sprains. It may bother him the rest of the year.



So does that mean he should sit for the rest of the year? OI VEY READ!!!!
 

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They lost a game. They played well for 2 periods in LA, bad in 1...won the game. Does LA think then they're out of the playoffs, fire the coach,etc, because they lost? Is DAL planning thier cup parade based on the win last nite?



Its the whole this team doesnt stand a chance to make the playoffs when theres 40 games (just 1 game less than half the season) when they're 2 points out of...4th place?



As far as the car...if it hasn't ran well in 100+ years, I wouldnt expect it to run well. If it won the Indy500 last year, I'd give it the benefit of the doubt...or at least give it the chance to finish the race - not count it out if its in the middle of the pack, in the middle of the race.
 

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Absolutely. He was VERY slow out there last night, didn't move well, not adding any value at this point. Let him heal.





I thought his play last nite to set up Kopecky brought some value...assisting on 1 of the 2 goals. And his pass to Sharp was pretty valuable in LA...



Kane at 80% is better than most at 100%
 

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Pointing it out constructively is one thing. Crying it a completely different.



They are half way through, 2pts out of a playoff spot. We are going to miss the playoffs??



There are 10 teams all within 4 points of 5 playoff spots. So I'd say it's about 50/50
 

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They lose the game in LA without him so I'd say he's adding value.



Way to pay attention to the game. Again put on your reading glasses and read what I typed about High Ankle sprains. It may bother him the rest of the year.



So does that mean he should sit for the rest of the year? OI VEY READ!!!!

By rushing him back from injury too soon we now RISK reinjuring that ankle and losing him for the whole year. A much better course of action would have been to let him heal another 2-3 weeks.
 

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I thought his play last nite to set up Kopecky brought some value...assisting on 1 of the 2 goals. And his pass to Sharp was pretty valuable in LA...



Kane at 80% is better than most at 100%





And with that TYPE of injury he could be like that for many months. Fluff have you ever skated? I'm going to guess no. You can tweak your ankle for long after you can skate just by turning funny. This is the NHL, players play through adversity. If Eddie and Pat really said that they are as dumb as they come. ALthough those to idiots might already have that moniker.



That pass to sharp in LA was awesome. Quick thought Kane was going to shoot due to his head fakes and he slid the puck right over to Sharp. He had one to Bolland in Anaheim that Bolland flubbed. Part of being on a line with Bolland and Pisani.... If I were Pat I'd seriously think about shooting the puck rather than a brilliant pass that probably won't hit the back of the net because the guy I'm passing too can't finish for shit.
 

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By rushing him back from injury too soon we now RISK reinjuring that ankle and losing him for the whole year. A much better course of action would have been to let him heal another 2-3 weeks.





You are wrong. He was ready to play. 2-3 weeks more would not have done anything. What part of this is a LINGERING injury don't you understand.



You should stick to things you know about.
 

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I don't recall anyone saying the Hawks aren't going to make the playoffs.
 

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You are wrong. He was ready to play. 2-3 weeks more would not have done anything. What part of this is a LINGERING injury don't you understand.



You should stick to things you know about.

That's your opinion - and I disagree with it. Kane is struggling out there - to say this is the best it will be all year is crap. He's wasn't ready - it shows.
 

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I don't recall anyone saying the Hawks aren't going to make the playoffs.





You've given us some mysterious number pulled out of your ass several times now. If they don't hit that number or percentage they don't make the playoffs.



Holy **** I just dumbed myself down.



I'm out.
 

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That's your opinion - and I disagree with it. Kane is struggling out there - to say this is the best it will be all year is crap. He's wasn't ready - it shows.





It's not my opinion. It the opinion of those who've had High Ankle sprains, the Hawks training and Kane himself.



Again they lose in LA without him.





I'll tell kane the village idiots think he shouldn't play tomorrow when I see him.
 

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You've given us some mysterious number pulled out of your ass several times now. If they don't hit that number or percentage they don't make the playoffs.



Holy **** I just dumbed myself down.



I'm out.



Typical RK non-response.



I postulated that if it takes 95 points to make the playoffs, the Hawks will have to play .700 hockey to attain that many wins. That is a fact, although those numbers are a little more difficult to figure than power play percentage.



Steve Konroyd last night said 91 points, which is roughly .600 hockey. Much more attainable, but the Hawks still have work to do as they are not a .600 team right now.



None of this is opinion....Just simple math.



If you disagree, back up why you dispute my numbers. Others here are required to back up what they say.
 

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25-19-88, 82-10-81, 29-36-15, 22-17 or 28-20



Get Stalberg off the top line



I agree. Keep brouwer there. But it's Q, and Stahlberg 'could' have three goals in the last three games. Skunked.
 

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Typical RK non-response.



I postulated that if it takes 95 points to make the playoffs, the Hawks will have to play .700 hockey to attain that many wins. That is a fact, although those numbers are a little more difficult to figure than power play percentage.



Steve Konroyd last night said 91 points, which is roughly .600 hockey. Much more attainable, but the Hawks still have work to do as they are not a .600 team right now.



None of this is opinion....Just simple math.



If you disagree, back up why you dispute my numbers. Others here are required to back up what they say.





You "guessed" 95 points and harped on it. Konroyd disputed you last night, just as I did.



I backed it up.



It's not simple math it's you randomly pulling a number out of your ass. Typical Puck Jim.
 

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Yup. But can they over come that and all the injuries, Sure. They arent good on the PK because they miss guys like Madden, Ladd, Versteeg and even sopel who were all EXCELLENT on the PK.



Ladd never killed penalties. Versteeg was usually on our third PK unit, so saw very little PK time. The top ten in PK icetime per game last year were Keith, Seabrook, Sopel, Madden, Hjalmarsson, Bolland, Toews, Brouwer, Fraser, Hossa. The top ten in PK icetime per game this year are Keith, Seabrook, Hjalmarsson, Bolland, Toews, Hossa, Pisani, Campbell, Sharp, Dowell.



The problem isn't so much the guys we lost, as the guys we kept having their heads up their asses. The guys that made our PK so good last year, are the same guys that are making our PK so bad this year... Keith, Seabrook, and Bolland are the biggest factor here. Bolland especially, with his inability to win any fucking defensive zone faceoffs. Johnson and Pisani are supposed to be PK experts, so losing Madden shouldn't be that big a deal. Campbell has done a great job this season stepping into the PK. The guys getting scored on when we're shorthanded, are the guys we counted on to kill those penalties off the large majority of the time last year. Keith and Seabrook HAVE to get back to where they were last year. A large majority of our struggles this year fall squarely on those two.
 

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You "guessed" 95 points and harped on it. Konroyd disputed you last night, just as I did.



I backed it up.



It's not simple math it's you randomly pulling a number out of your ass. Typical Puck Jim.



Yep. 95 is a guess, based on previous seasons. It may not be exact, but it's in the ballpark.



Obviously, as the season ages, the guesses should get closer.



Regardless, 91-95 points is a tough row to hoe for this team the way they are playing at present.



The shitshow power play has to improve or they will never reach that.
 

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Ok...I'm not a math genius...so if i'm wrong, someone will for sure point it out.



But if 95 points is some pre-determined magic number that you must get to make the playoffs...and they have 45...they would need 50pts to get that or 25 wins in 40gms.



Now if I take 25...and divide it by 40 (number of games left)...that gives a .625%



So going 25-15...10 games over would give them 95 points, isn't .700...its' closer to .600 hockey - .625 to be exact.
 

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Ok...I'm not a math genius...so if i'm wrong, someone will for sure point it out.



But if 95 points is some pre-determined magic number that you must get to make the playoffs...and they have 45...they would need 50pts to get that or 25 wins in 40gms.



Now if I take 25...and divide it by 40 (number of games left)...that gives a .625%



So going 25-15...10 games over would give them 95 points, isn't .700...its' closer to .600 hockey - .625 to be exact.



I think people are forgetting that a bunch of other teams need to play .625% hockey to get to 95 points as well. It's not that complicated. Anaheim needs to play slightly better then that to reach 95 points and they are the 7th seed as we speak.



And HOW GOOD is Dallas really? Are they going to keep up their 24-13-4 type record all year?
 

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95 points is hardly a number pulled out of someone's ass. Points required to make the playoffs in the West, since 2004-2005 lockout.



95

91

91

96

95



I'd say 95 is probably a pretty good estimate.
 

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