The Case for Brian Flores for Head Coach

[dabears70]

"I think part of coaching is correcting," Flores said. "I'm always going to correct. I'm always going to have a high standard. And I think, look, I've done a lot of reflecting on the situation, reflecting on the situation and communication. I think there's things that I could do better for sure, and I've grown in that way, and I've tried to apply the things that I could do better and the things that I've learned over the last two, three years.

"Look, I'm human," Flores said in response. "So that hit me in a way that wasn't ... positive for me. But at the same time, I've got to use that and say, 'Hey, how can I grow from that? How can I be better?' And that's really where I'm at from that standpoint. Do I feel like that's me? No. But how can I grow from that situation and create a world where that's not the case that anyone says that about Brian Flores?"

Speaking after practice Tuesday, Harrison Phillips admitted that he was initially "a little more reluctant or on edge" when Flores replaced Ed Donatell as the Vikings' defensive coordinator after the 2022 season. Donatell's approach had been "relationship-driven," Phillips said. When Flores arrived, Phillips said, "I didn't [know] if that was going to be replicated or if he'd have those same passions outside of football."

As it turned out, Flores soon invited the entire defense to his new Minnesota home to meet his family, socialize and eat.

"A statement that we always joke around with is, 'You can't have unique results without unique relationships,'" Phillips said. "And he's done a really great job of developing those unique relationships where you have a Stanford kid from Nebraska sitting on the bus next to an inner-city kid from Louisiana. We're buddies because of the defense that coach Flores has and the unique relationships that he has created between us."

Phillips said it was Metellus' idea to flank Flores at the start of his news conference.

"We just love him, man," Metellus said. "He's been great to us. I know everybody else has their own opinion, but as long as he's been a Viking, he's been good to the team."

Yes that's him speaking after Tua and other players came out and talked about how he's someone they didn't like playing for and much more so now he has to save face and say the right things to do his best to fix his reputation. His agent probably wrote that with him. LOL

 

[dabears70]

Hell no he would be a terrible head coach rather have gruden than him

I actually think Gruden would be a interesting hire.

 

[dabears70]

And it’s a clear move of “self-preservation” on Poles’ part. He doesn’t want Johnson because he knows it could force him out.

Sorry, but he’ll no to Flores. I like his D but if he was such a caustic presence in Tua’s development that it crumbled the mental toughness of a young man who played for Saban, then I DO NOT want him anywhere near my promising young QB! No way no, no how!

You like his D? Kinda weird but i'm not judging. LOL

 

[Enasic]

Great way to support your QB by picking the one head coach who's young QB publicly said made his life a living hell and made him perform worse

I’m not advocating Flores for HC but tbf, Flores owned up to it and said he’s learned some things along the way, so I give him credit for that. Also, that approach could actually work on some players. Look at MJ - He was a grade A asshole but even his role players said guess what? It worked.

He’s clearly not afraid to hurt players feelings and with this group of softy cry babies, that might be a good thing. What’s not a good thing is his OC track record. It’s absolute vomit and the main reason he shouldn’t be hired. Who would his OC be?

 

[bamainatlanta]

I find that fascinating and kind of ridiculous.
Did he win his case or get a settlement?

It was dismissed

 

[doctorbear]

I’m not advocating Flores for HC but tbf, Flores owned up to it and said he’s learned some things along the way, so I give him credit for that. Also, that approach could actually work on some players. Look at MJ - He was a grade A asshole but even his role players said guess what? It worked.

He’s clearly not afraid to hurt players feelings and with this group of softy cry babies, that might be a good thing. What’s not a good thing is his OC track record. It’s absolute vomit and the main reason he shouldn’t be hired. Who would his OC be?

I'm all for second chances but this organization has been a disaster for so many years that I'm not really going to be supportive or enthused about it when that's been his criticism and with the situation the bears are in

 

[Enasic]

I'm all for second chances but this organization has been a disaster for so many years that I'm not really going to be supportive or enthused about it when that's been his criticism and with the situation the bears are in

Other than Tua, by all accounts, his players like him. KOC said all his defensive players love him in Minny too. I think he just went too hard on Tua (who he drafted im pretty sure) and Tua didn’t respond well to the tough love. I think Flores probably learned from it. Again, I don’t want him as HC because of his OC track record, not because of his hard nose approach.

 

[run and shoot]

Kingsbury

The thing about Kingsbury is he's never been a winner as a HC...whether college or pro

 

[ThatGuyRyan]

 

[doctorbear]

Other than Tua, by all accounts, his players like him. KOC said all his defensive players love him in Minny too. I think he just went too hard on Tua (who he drafted im pretty sure) and Tua didn’t respond well to the tough love. I think Flores probably learned from it. Again, I don’t want him as HC because of his OC track record, not because of his hard nose approach.

There are a lot of hard nose coaches. Verbally assaulting your players on a daily basis does not make you hard nose. A coach can be hard nose and also someone a player wants to play for: Dan Campbell for example. So he said he learned from that but let's just put him in the worst organization in potentially all of sports right now and take that chance.

 

[dabears70]

Other than Tua, by all accounts, his players like him. KOC said all his defensive players love him in Minny too. I think he just went too hard on Tua (who he drafted im pretty sure) and Tua didn’t respond well to the tough love. I think Flores probably learned from it. Again, I don’t want him as HC because of his OC track record, not because of his hard nose approach.

No, other players on Miami didn't like him or playing for him as well. Someone listed some of those names either earlier in this thread or another one last night.

 

[Enasic]

There are a lot of hard nose coaches. Verbally assaulting your players on a daily basis does not make you hard nose. A coach can be hard nose and also someone a player wants to play for: Dan Campbell for example. So he said he learned from that but let's just put him in the worst organization in potentially all of sports right now and take that chance.

I never said to. I don’t want him as HC.

 

[dabears70]

The thing about Kingsbury is he's never been a winner as a HC...whether college or pro

Yeah he'd be a tougher sell for me kinda close to where Flores would be on my list but if either were hired i'd find my ways to get behind them and root for them because they both do have some positives they bring with them.

 

[truthbedamned]

Does Trace Armstrong represent him?

 

[remydat]

And yet you keep planting a flag that Eberflus was a good defensive coordinator but how come that didn’t translate to helping Caleb develop. Hmmmmm…

You are jumping to Grand Canyon size conclusions about Flores’ possible impact to developing a QB. He’s a Defensive guy. He knows defensive.

Are you one of those people that thought making Matt Patrica an OC was a good idea in NE bc he knew defense?

Eberflus doesnt blitz much so not sure how he woulf help Caleb in that regard.

Eberflus also was not apparently very detailed as that many of the players criticized the lack of attention to detail.

So not sure why you think all DCs are the same. Flores can help Caleb in a way Flud cant because of his knowledge of blitzing and fanatical attention to detail.

Bellichick was a defensive coach. I guess you think he had no impact on Brady's development. DCs can offer insights to QBs. It doesnt mean they are OCs so np the Patricia thing was dumb. SMH at even making such a silly link.

 

[run and shoot]

Flores would bring the blitz . Rushing 4 is not getting the job done, Tua was soft mentally

A player who flourished under Nick Saban and his hard-ass coaching was soft mentally?

Ah… Nope!

Thanks for ur point of view

So a few things....one has to admit the college game is different than the pro game. Saban was not so good as a pro HC, however he was a very good college HC.

When I think of mental toughness in a Qb, I think of Jim McMahon. Mike Ditka was a hard nose HC, he was tough on McMahon. However, McMahan never folded.

Instead, McMahon showed mental toughness . He went out ....showed leadership and won games. A Qb has to constantly show mental toughness and leadership regardless of the situation or HC I didn't see that in Tua.

 

[Les Grossman]

Eberflus doesnt blitz much so not sure how he woulf help Caleb in that regard.

Eberflus also was not apparently very detailed as that many of the players criticized the lack of attention to detail.

So not sure why you think all DCs are the same. Flores can help Caleb in a way Flud cant because of his knowledge of blitzing and fanatical attention to detail.

Bellichick was a defensive coach. I guess you think he had no impact on Brady's development. DCs can offer insights to QBs. It doesnt mean they are OCs so np the Patricia thing was dumb. SMH at even making such a silly link.

You’re being so obtuse it’s laughable. Keep talking yourself into the idea of another Defensive HC…

If only the rest of the NFL knew that all it took was a blitzing DC to develop a QB… best kept secret in the NFL.

 

[Montucky]

I don’t hate Brian Flores but I’m not sure he’s the right pick to the lead Bears. It is pretty funny that remy of course is hitching his wagon to the one minority in the running.

 

[remydat]

People need to stop with this bullshit narrative. Over the last 20 years the Bears have had a great D five or six times and not once did it improve the QB play of the Bears QB.

This is illogical. Caleb is a different QB from previous Bears QBs and Flores a different HC.

The D guys like Lovie and Flus are not about disguises and predicated on a 4 man rush. That isnt going to help a QB that is struggling with the blitz or with disguised coverages. Floes is obviously a master at blitzing and disguises.

Caleb is also a far more talented a passer than the other QBs.

 

[Montucky]

Caleb is also a far more talented a passer than the other QBs.

His arm talent has been horrible. His accuracy is not good. This is just not correct to say.