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Trubisky/Fields would have curled up in the fetal position after a bad 1st half. Cutler would have been throwing picks left & right. Caleb does deserve credit for not folding
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I’m not sure what Fields is doing on the Steelers has anything to do with what he did(or didn’t do) on the Bears. Please articulate.
My point was about Fields on the Bears, when he had a bad 1st half, it usually didn’t turn around in the 2nd half.
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Caleb hasn't really been "turning it around" in the second half recently though. He's limping through these games now.
The whole damn argument for the haul was:
1. Justin's better than what he's been given credit for
2. The roster and coaching staff were inadequate
We shouldn't be celebrating Caleb's empty stats - he absolutely needs to be better.
Justin being bad at comebacks and 2 minute drills but then being good/better at them in Pittsburgh is troubling.
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Could you imagine "the haul" with Poles drafting additional worthless players, having a shitty qb still on the roster, possibly extending that shitty qb with a piss poor contract and no qb in sight for this draft (which is blah for qb and bears likely picking no higher than 8th)?
Give it up....the NFL and Mike Tomlin told you all you need to know about the value of RB1 as a qb
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Imagine how good Caleb would be in Pittsburgh! Justin and russ would be on the bench!
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Could have traded back, gotten Maye + extra draft capital, sat him (because that's what good teams do to their rookie QBs), played Fields and been better in the short term and long term.
Instead we've got our stud statpadder out here taking sacks at a record rate!
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Also worst defense in the league the past 3 weeks in yards and points I believe…. Obviously the offense is starting off slow, and there is zero threat of a run game, same shit different QB/Year for the bears, but the defense has been worse than ass.
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Jayden had a legit running game with Robinson and what seems like a good OL.
Caleb has better WRs but everything else worse.
Caleb’s numbers are shockingly decent given the turmoil. Let’s be real most of us would quit by now.
Caleb has better WRs but everything else worse.
Caleb’s numbers are shockingly decent given the turmoil. Let’s be real most of us would quit by now.
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What was NE offering?
So basically you think maye is significantly better than Caleb?
You weren't getting much more than parts to move from 1 to 3
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They are
He was slightly better because they protected him.....but he still couldn't produce yards/points
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I cant believe people are still talking about "the haul" nearly a year later.
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I guess if you actually looked at all the sacks, all the completions on 3rd down that don't result in a 1st, and all those games where Caleb 'led' the Bears to fewer than 20 points, you'd get a clearer picture.
YPP = Bears 4.5 last in NFL
Net yards per pass = Bears 4.8 last in NFL
PPG = Bears 19.9 is 25th in NFL
3rd down conversions = Bears 32.3% is 31st in the NFL
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Williams has left too many opportunities and plays on the field this year to be in the considerations for OROTY. He was already going to have to have stats at a higher level to be in the consideration while on a team that is not making a playoff push. His offensive line has done him no favors but if Williams had connected on a few more deep ball plays that were there for the making and also just showed a little more consistency where we have the offense not show up for entire first halves, he likely would be right there in the consideration. Just too many gaps in his game at this point.
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Just from watching the games, it feels like the Bears are attempting short and quick passes to try to counteract the pressure and the offensive line's inability to maintain blocks. Hence the lower YPA and YPP.
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He's been wildly inaccurate this season; esp on deeper balls; has been sacked a ton but hasn't had a typical rookie implosion season.
With 3 games to go id probably give him a C+...lots of room for growth but you can see there is talent there to be a top 10ish qb with a better line and coaching.......vs the two previous 1st round qbs drafted who were what they were with limited to zero upside
With 3 games to go id probably give him a C+...lots of room for growth but you can see there is talent there to be a top 10ish qb with a better line and coaching.......vs the two previous 1st round qbs drafted who were what they were with limited to zero upside
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This is pretty damn fair and accurate. At his best, he definitely looks better than any of the other rookies.
Plus, he’s kept them in most games regardless of how they start.
The guy is tough as nails too. He has yet to even appear on the injury list and he gives it everything he has game in, game out.
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Truly horrid numbers. Terrible offense. Williams is certainly struggling.
And yet….
His numbers are RIGHT THERE with Daniels.
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