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OReilly has been a good player and is entering his prime. He's an excellent two way player who moved to left wing last year and played on Duchenes line. The Avs would get considerably older. It would maybe help the Avs from taking a step back. The Blackhawks are also in win now modded or than the Avs. They're probably not the best trade partners.
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Yeah it is.
Hammer is a top pairing guy. The guy plays against the other teams top players, is young, on a friendly contract, and will block shots with his face. His value is outlandish to the point other GM's surely dont even ask about him. The fact he plays on the second pairing behind the best pairing in the nhl doesnt decrease his value. It might be a point for message board tards, but not in reality. AND throw in Hossa?
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If you want to deal a d-man...deal Leddy.
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With half of those guys on the wrong side of 30.
The first defenseman you'd move, if the situation presents itself, is Oduya. The second is Seabrook. Then, maybe, Leddy. Maybe.
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Salary cap hits are a number, too.
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I know. I also believe with the higher cap, you're not going to get much better bargains than what Seabrook brings.
A proven, responsible playoff performer. Not sure why that guy needs to be dealt. Oduya, I can see with his contract.
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He doesn't "need" to be dealt. Neither does Leddy. But if the right offer is there I'm dealing Seabrook first.
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seabrook can pound sand.
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I don't blame Blackhawks fans for saying things like this, especially with the level of success they've had but I really don't think the trade was out of line at all. It riechs of homerism. The Blackhawks have been in win now mode for a while so they probably see Hossa differently but due to his age, your pretty much tethered to his contract for it's duration. Hjalmarsson is a strong defender and someone wouldn't mind having but some of the names being kicked around as a straight up trade are guys like Josi, Phanuef, etc...guys, like Hjalmarsson, a step down from elite.
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Btw, I wouldn't mind Leddy. Unfortunately, what the Avs have is either too much or too little. McGinn maybe but he's a left wing and you don't need that.
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Hjalmarsson is one of the best values in the entire NHL at $4.1 million. Per Capgeek, he's No. 47 on the list of cap hits among NHL defensemen ... and he's probably in the top 20 in terms of actual playing ability. The Hawks aren't going to do it, but if they move Hjalmarsson they'd be able to get a pretty damn hefty return. Hjalmarsson for ROR straight up is just about a fair deal, IMO.
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To which i reply;
And even then I would ask for more if i was Stan.
And i give you Josi, vastly under rated, but The Dion hasnt been anything special for almost five years now.
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Yeah, ask the fans in Toronto what they think about him. Large portions of that fan base have turned completely against him.
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Yep. 4th most points on the team in the playoffs and he can pound sand.
Come on Dews, he isn't elite like Keith is, but he's a solid D-Man.
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Chris Kuc @ChrisKuc 4m I'm told that as of right now, there is still a possibility that defenseman Sheldon Brookbank will return to the #Blackhawks next season.
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If it means Rozi is put out to pasture, i can live with that.
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Don't confuse a few good playoff shifts into thinking he can be a top six. I like him at 7 for depth but that is all. They need a PP point man that can really shoot the puck. How
many times did the Hawks get torched by shots getting through to Crawford and conversely....how many times did Hawk point shots get turned into odd man breaks the other way? The reasons why I wanted to move Seabrook was a combo of cap hit, age and the need for a good PP dman. Now Seabs has a good shot but he takes to long to launch it and it gets blocked a lot. You watch a guy like Subban and you notice how many get through.....partly because his shot is awfully heavy and guys aren't all the eager to jump in front of it but also because he's good at 1-timing it without losing the mustard on it. The Hawks won't get Subban but I'd like a guy that is similar.
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