The Ugly Truth as Told by a Bills Fan.

[onebud34]

I honestly don't know if I've ever seen a special teams unit be this bad even in preseason or peewee football. Not sure how that gets corrected. I assume some of those guys getting destroyed are competing for the team and will need to contribute on special teams.

It seems like megapunt is outkicking the coverage. Then again, the punts have been angled and no one wants to tackle. They look like my Junior HS football team. Which only managed to score 3 TD in a season

 

[Dawgsfan1]

Coming over here from the Atlanta Falcons, I've said the same thing about them. They have played their preseason games very sloppy as if they can suddenly turn it on during the season. The new head coach they have is doing the same thing. Bad coaches look bad in the preseason.

 

[JoJoBoxer]

Like who?

The '85 Bears, if I recall correctly.

 

[Visionman]

It seems like megapunt is outkicking the coverage. Then again, the punts have been angled and no one wants to tackle. They look like my Junior HS football team. Which only managed to score 3 TD in a season

I’m assuming that they wanted him to do that to test the coverage guys. Cant tell much if you’re kicking fair catches all preseason.

 

[JoJoBoxer]

Right. I dont think this team beats the Dolphins if they play their starters for 4 quarters and aren't minimizing their game-plans. Some of these games have starting QBs playing 1-2 series and we're taking the results seriously?

When the BEARS 1st string offense is garbage and the BEARS 1st string defense can't tackle anyone, you have to wonder why the other team's offense and/or defense doesn't suck quite as bad, making it a closer game.

The score doesn't matter. The lack of effort does.

 

[Visionman]

When the BEARS 1st string offense is garbage and the BEARS 1st string defense can't tackle anyone, you have to wonder why the other team's offense and/or defense doesn't suck quite as bad, making it a closer game.

The score doesn't matter. The lack of effort does.

We didn’t play our first string offense. Not even half of it. Nor did we play our starting DL. Stop overreacting to a glorified practice…

 

[CAP BOSO]

it seems true to me. Nagy and basic football fundamentals don't mix. Nagy teams are consistent in that they are always sloppy and unprepared

100% true. These teams are always undisciplined, bad fundamentally and honestly seem to give up easily. The playbook seems to be the same regurgitated mess. I was excited his first year as HC. We saw some imagination used in the scheme, guys were flying around having fun. You don't see any of that anymore
The biggest red flag for me about Nagy was when asked about Trubisky's foot work and he responded that he doesn't mess with that stuff. I mean that's literally supposed to be your specialty Nagy.
I wanted Nagy to succeed not just because I'm a Bears fan, but he went to the same University as me in my hometown of Newark, DE. He graduated one year before me and I sat in the stands for a bunch of his games. Sadly , he ain't the guy.

 

[Anytime23]

When the BEARS 1st string offense is garbage and the BEARS 1st string defense can't tackle anyone, you have to wonder why the other team's offense and/or defense doesn't suck quite as bad, making it a closer game.

The score doesn't matter. The lack of effort does.

I've already stated that the tackling is an issue.

 

[JoJoBoxer]

I've already stated that the tackling is an issue.

So ... it does matter.

Unless the defense shows that it can do the basics well, and unless the offense can show ... something ... anything with Nagy's play calling (not an issue in preseason because basic calls, but a huge issue in years past), it is going to be a long season.

 

[Anytime23]

So ... it does matter.

Unless the defense shows that it can do the basics well, and unless the offense can show ... something ... anything with Nagy's play calling (not an issue in preseason because basic calls, but a huge issue in years past), it is going to be a long season.

It was always going to be a long season. This team isn't as talented and well rounded as a lot of Bears fans tried convincing themselves it was.

But we've seen the defense look worse in the pre-season. The offense always looks the same, regardless of what time of year it is.

 

[JoJoBoxer]

Like he said, different coaches have different things they seek to accomplish in preseason. Since you have ZERO clue what either team was choosing to evaluate, your interpretation of the results is what is meaningless…

As is yours.

I am almost sure that what the Bears coaches wanted to evaluate on Saturday got a failing grade by those same Bears coaches.

 

[gwharris2254]

I believe that Bills blowout has more to do with the depth of Buffalo versus Chicago's, and coaching, than anything else

 

[JoJoBoxer]

It was always going to be a long season. This team isn't as talented and well rounded as a lot of Bears fans tried convincing themselves it was.

But we've seen the defense look worse in the pre-season. The offense always looks the same, regardless of what time of year it is.

And, thus, bring in Fields in early.

He is the one player on the Bears offense who can take Nagy's shit calls and make something out of it. This doesn't mean that Nagy's call was good, but rather, that Fields created something different than the call.

Fields can ignore the "genius" and move the Bears offense up several spots from where it would be with Dalton (22 to 30?). If the defense can NOT drop too much, maybe the Bears can have an ok 2021.

It will give Fields a year of learning too, instead of walking around on the sidelines, holding a clipboard.

 

[Anytime23]

And, thus, bring in Fields in early.

He is the one player on the Bears offense who can take Nagy's shit calls and make something out of it. This doesn't mean that Nagy's call was good, but rather, that Fields created something different than the call.

Fields can ignore the "genius" and move the Bears offense up several spots from where it would be with Dalton (22 to 30?). If the defense can NOT drop too much, maybe the Bears can have an ok 2021.

It will give Fields a year of learning too, instead of walking around on the sidelines, holding a clipboard.

Oh for sure. My issue is that i want there to be a real perspective when evaluating the production of a Fields/Nagy offense. I feel like the people in that building will see a Fields 20 yard run and be like "Hey, the offense is working" when that wasn't the play by design.

Im just at that point again where it feels like none of it matters. There is no accountability at Halas Hall and i think Fields will make them look better than they deserve and nothing will change.

 

[JoJoBoxer]

Oh for sure. My issue is that i want there to be a real perspective when evaluating the production of a Fields/Nagy offense. I feel like the people in that building will see a Fields 20 yard run and be like "Hey, the offense is working" when that wasn't the play by design.

Im just at that point again where it feels like none of it matters. There is no accountability at Halas Hall and i think Fields will make them look better than they deserve and nothing will change.

This is wishful thinking, but I hope there is a mutiny on the team and both offensive and defensive players force Nagy to give up play calling.

This would all be done behind closed doors, but suddenly Nagy would have given up play calling to the OC.

 

[Anytime23]

This is wishful thinking, but I hope there is a mutiny on the team and both offensive and defensive players force Nagy to give up play calling.

This would all be done behind closed doors, but suddenly Nagy would have given up play calling to the OC.

I've been waiting for a mutiny since week 2 of '19. I wont hold my breath.

 

[onebud34]

I’m assuming that they wanted him to do that to test the coverage guys. Cant tell much if you’re kicking fair catches all preseason.

Then it's pretty concerning that we didn't house a punt return

 

[cdubz11]

funny how all a sudden preseason does matter when a team destroys another team @vabearsfan15

who the hell knows what matters in preseason. not many starters even played on either side. Bills are good an AFC Championship contender and sneaky SB contender. Bears are meh average with a below avg offense and good but not great defense. injuries matter too.

although i will agree Nagy's offense seems to be confusing just in general, and something about the way Nagy talks is confusing lol. it's not clear and matter of fact. he stutters all over the place and changes his mind mid sentence and then starts talking bout something else and doesn't know how to respond to hard questions.

then he's talkin bout how confusing preseason games are himself lmao "not even sure what player the play i called is going to cause of all the substitutions". huh?? you're getting paid millions to only coach one football team. you can't even keep track of who's in the game and who you're calling a play for? this is all you do 24/7. it shouldn't be so "confusing".

i think Nagy is better suited as a coordinator of some kind. not sure he gets respect of players a head coach should.

 

[Midway Fields]

I was at the game and could not have left more disappointed. I watched the game on DVR and felt better in the sense you could make a lot of excuses for the team’s shortcomings lol.

Defense-

Pathetic tackling - Roquan and Trevathan did not play who we know are cleaning up the patented Mitch short/ sideways throws that netted tons of yards with seemingly missed tackles on all of them. You could say the same for Mitch’s scrambles. Linebackers are pretty important for tackling, particularly when missing an all pro talent in Roquan.

CB2 Vildor has me very concerned, won’t lie.

Offense -

Skill positions: A-Rob, Mooney, Goodwin, Montgomery, Kmet all did not play to my knowledge.

O-line: Elijah Wilkinson got worked, he’s bad. They showed a stat on Borom not allowing a single QB pressure in college last year. Literally, the next 2 consecutive plays he was pushed back into Fields. He has promise but REALLY need a miracle contribution from Jason Peters on the blindside. No James Daniels.

Fields day looks much different if Rodney Adams and that other hack hold onto the ball that were perfectly place.

Fields is the savior, I saw nothing to show me any different. My point is the finished product was not even close to what we watched on Saturday.

Nagy looked so bad on Saturday. It’s a disservice to throw Dalton and Fields in with these bums. I don’t see how anyone can say there was progress. Then, Trubisky shredded. Horrible look.

 

[Outlaw Josey Cutler]

I think the Bears offense will be shit again but im not 100% sold that the defense is down 28 points to Mitch Trubisky bad.

You are probably right but when Nagy is playcalling the offense to a couple of field goals in the first half against GB, does it matter that the defense only allows 13 - 17 instead of 28 like the Bills? Not really.