The Ultimate Insult

[zack54attack]

Legal issue, thats why he's not in the game.

Also, in 2K you can download created teams and players. I'm 100% positive Pippen will be available from someone.

 

[97Bulls]

I am ignoring the schizo...because whichever personality wrote that b.s. is fucked up in the head worse than some of the others.

But what championship did Barkley lose exactly because of his attitude and work ethic? And how do you do what he did with bad work ethic? Makes no sense.

Its as if you take pride in me setting you straight.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...yIGwCA&usg=AFQjCNGW-dKmxLY1DpXItsupRE3XbEJERw

This was Barkley during thhe NBA draft of 84. In his interview, he talks about his defense.

Bob Knight cut his ass for work ethic. Or lack there of.

He was nicknames "Round Mound" for goodness sake. Its as if he took pride in it

Scottie Pippen called him lazy an questioned his work ethic.

And I hold defense in high regard. He consistently joked about how bad of a defender he was.

http://barkleyquotes.com/quotes/1277

http://charlesbarkleyquotes.blogspot.com/2008/02/top-50-charles-barkley-quotes.html?m=1

http://barkleyquotes.com/quotes/1104

Going back to what Bob Knight said about him, he felt Barkley should slimmed down to 215. So my feeling he should hovered around
230 cant be all that preposterous

 

[BNB]

Live and 2k was always the same to me.. I honestly don't see why people say 2k is soooooooo much better. Maybe because I'm not a big gamer and I don't appreciate the small things? Idk. I actually always found Live easier to play and that's why I enjoyed it.

Honestly, I think I wanna buy live just to see people overreact for no reason. "wtf? You got live? Wtf is wrong with you? 2k is the awesome, Live sucks dick."

 

[houheffna]

Its as if you take pride in me setting you straight.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CEQQtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DjuGvOPI97yk&ei=pvMuUPWvMoqE8QTcyIGwCA&usg=AFQjCNGW-dKmxLY1DpXItsupRE3XbEJERw

This was Barkley during thhe NBA draft of 84. In his interview, he talks about his defense.

Bob Knight cut his ass for work ethic. Or lack there of.

He was nicknames "Round Mound" for goodness sake. Its as if he took pride in it

Scottie Pippen called him lazy an questioned his work ethic.

And I hold defense in high regard. He consistently joked about how bad of a defender he was.

http://barkleyquotes.com/quotes/1277

http://charlesbarkleyquotes.blogspot.com/2008/02/top-50-charles-barkley-quotes.html?m=1

http://barkleyquotes.com/quotes/1104

Going back to what Bob Knight said about him, he felt Barkley should slimmed down to 215. So my feeling he should hovered around
230 cant be all that preposterous

Who the hell said Barkley was a great defender? You wasted time putting up those links. He was a better basketball player than Pippen was. Continue arguing with yourself...somehow...you would still lose the argument...but carry on.

 

[97Bulls]

Who the hell said Barkley was a great defender? You wasted time putting up those links. He was a better basketball player than Pippen was. Continue arguing with yourself...somehow...you would still lose the argument...but carry on.

How does Pippen get dragged in to this? I thought we were gonna discuss my views on Charles Barkley.

 

[houheffna]

How does Pippen get dragged in to this? I thought we were gonna discuss my views on Charles Barkley.

That was how the argument began. Defense wasn't all of the equation, just part of it. But here is an idea of how great Barkley was...look at Hollinger's picks for 25 best playoff games by one player...

http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2012/story/_/id/8068148/nba-playoffs-top-25-performances-ever

 

[RC_Skinny22]

Whats your problem with my views on Barkley? He was constantly out of shape. At 6'4, if he really couldve and shouldve been a SF.

Do I understand you right, you say Barkley was out of shape and say at the same time that he should´ve played SF, which is a much faster position to play?

 

[97Bulls]

Do I understand you right, you say Barkley was out of shape and say at the same time that he should´ve played SF, which is a much faster position to play?

No not in the least. But I do feel Barkley got by on his amaziing talent. If he commited himself to working hard, and defense, he wouldve been greater than he was. I feel he wouldve been better at SF if he lost about 40lbs because his athleticism, as great as it was at 260/270, wouldve enabled him to not be so bad on defense. Along with just an effort to play defense. Something he readily admits he didnt have.

 

[scottiepippen1994]

Its as if you take pride in me setting you straight.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...yIGwCA&usg=AFQjCNGW-dKmxLY1DpXItsupRE3XbEJERw

This was Barkley during thhe NBA draft of 84. In his interview, he talks about his defense.

Bob Knight cut his ass for work ethic. Or lack there of.

He was nicknames "Round Mound" for goodness sake. Its as if he took pride in it

Scottie Pippen called him lazy an questioned his work ethic.

And I hold defense in high regard. He consistently joked about how bad of a defender he was.

http://barkleyquotes.com/quotes/1277

http://charlesbarkleyquotes.blogspot.com/2008/02/top-50-charles-barkley-quotes.html?m=1

http://barkleyquotes.com/quotes/1104

Going back to what Bob Knight said about him, he felt Barkley should slimmed down to 215. So my feeling he should hovered around
230 cant be all that preposterous

Thank you, thank you and thank you.
Facts are a stubborn thing and good old Hue needs to follow his own advice. :beerbang:

 

[97Bulls]

That was how the argument began. Defense wasn't all of the equation, just part of it. But here is an idea of how great Barkley was...look at Hollinger's picks for 25 best playoff games by one player...

http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2012/story/_/id/8068148/nba-playoffs-top-25-performances-ever

Great statistical games by all the players on his list. However, I never stated Barkley wasnt great. I basically said he never maximized his talent.

 

[97Bulls]

Thank you, thank you and thank you.
Facts are a stubborn thing and good old Hue needs to follow his own advice. :beerbang:

Thanx bro. I get a kick out of you when you gotta set him straight too.

 

[houheffna]

No not in the least. But I do feel Barkley got by on his amaziing talent. If he commited himself to working hard, and defense, he wouldve been greater than he was. I feel he wouldve been better at SF if he lost about 40lbs because his athleticism, as great as it was at 260/270, wouldve enabled him to not be so bad on defense. Along with just an effort to play defense. Something he readily admits he didnt have.

You don't have a clue as to what it takes to play small forward in the NBA. Yet you worship Pippen? How do you look at Barkley's skills and say he can play small forward? He was a great rebounder who could score in the post. He spent most of his career dominating the paint...why the hell would you want him on the perimeter? He didn't even get a long range shot until he was damn near 30 years old. He wasn't a guy who could create his own shot off the dribble...none of that. You mean to tell me you watched guys like Grant Hill and Dominique Wilkins and said Barkley could have done that?

What the hell are you talking about?

 

[houheffna]

Thanx bro. I get a kick out of you when you gotta set him straight too.

Calm down dude...I ethered that dude so many times he worships me...but have fun being a groupie's groupie. Its better than trying to support those lame ass arguments you've been posting.

 

[scottiepippen1994]

Calm down dude...I ethered that dude so many times he worships me...but have fun being a groupie's groupie. Its better than trying to support those lame ass arguments you've been posting.

LoL, I wouldn't worship you if you were Jesus Christ himself.
I think your ego is getting the best of you.
Go to sleep for christ sakes.

And pray for forgiveness.....Goodnite and Zodbless.

P.S, you never owned me .......you got me fucked up dude........Its all in your head.

 

[houheffna]

LoL, I wouldn't worship you if you were Jesus Christ himself.
I think your ego is getting the best of you.
Go to sleep for christ sakes.

And pray for forgiveness.....Goodnite and Zodbless.

P.S, you never owned me .......you got me fucked up dude........Its all in your head.

It is what it is bruh. I will say this...if Jesus Christ himself posted on this forum...you probably wouldn't use his avatar, quote his words, or stalk him, but you do all of the above to me.

Just sayin...

 

[scottiepippen1994]

It is what it is bruh. I will say this...if Jesus Christ himself posted on this forum...you probably wouldn't use his avatar, quote his words, or stalk him, but you do all of the above to me.

Just sayin...

Come awwwwwwwwwwwn mang.
LoL again....


Don't get so dam personal over a good argument we are having.
Its a fucking messageboard...I'm not stalking you, I just enjoy your company...I feel the same way you do because I feel like your stalking me, even when I'm not talking to you....you know what I'm talking about so don't fool yourself...Maybe its my newly adopted avatar, LMAO, you mad as hell and you know it...I think ill keep the avatar
..You are one interesting guy and make my experience here much more enjoyable....especially with this lowsy offseason with not much to talk about....Keep it interesting man.....good job, but you don't get to me anymore...you just make me laugh...ha ha
I AIN'T MAD ATCHA........you have your views, I have mine......but facts are facts....Barkley had a very very big headed ego that possibly, and I said possibly could of held back from the greatness he had.....Personally I think he was at his best in Philly....He was a great player, but very hard headed....it iz wut it iz brah......just sayin.

Plus a few less mcdonalds cheeze burgers and donuts also would of done a world of wonder for his physical health....No wonder Charles had so many injury issues throughout his career....That's a lot of weight Sir Charles to try to carry running back and forth across the court everynight.....I'm suprised he didn't have heart problems....:dunno:

Prop Joe and Barkley, hmmmmm... .:thinking: .What is this pattern with you and Fat people?
Are you obese yourself?....I'm not judging you or anything, just trying to make sense of things here....

Good Grief......or shall I say, Good Beef?......

P.S, when my avatar is held next to yours, mine a little bigger....SEE? Just look for yourself.
We don't have the same avatar after all, so I stole nothing....its all in your head, like an optical illusion.

 

[houheffna]

Come awwwwwwwwwwwn mang.
LoL again....


Don't get so dam personal over a good argument we are having.
Its a fucking messageboard...I'm not stalking you, I just enjoy your company...I feel the same way you do because I feel like your stalking me, even when I'm not talking to you....you know what I'm talking about so don't fool yourself...Maybe its my newly adopted avatar, LMAO, you mad as hell and you know it...I think ill keep the avatar
..You are one interesting guy and make my experience here much more enjoyable....especially with this lowsy offseason with not much to talk about....Keep it interesting man.....good job, but you don't get to me anymore...you just make me laugh...ha ha
I AIN'T MAD ATCHA........you have your views, I have mine......but facts are facts....Barkley had a very very big headed ego that possibly, and I said possibly could of held back from the greatness he had.....Personally I think he was at his best in Philly....He was a great player, but very hard headed....it iz wut it iz brah......just sayin.

Plus a few less mcdonalds cheeze burgers and donuts also would of done a world of wonder for his physical health....No wonder Charles had so many injury issues throughout his career....That's a lot of weight Sir Charles to try to carry running back and forth across the court everynight.....I'm suprised he didn't have heart problems....:dunno:

Prop Joe and Barkley, hmmmmm... .:thinking: .What is this pattern with you and Fat people?
Are you obese yourself?....I'm not judging you or anything, just trying to make sense of things here....

Good Grief......or shall I say, Good Beef?......

P.S, when my avatar is held next to yours, mine a little bigger....SEE? Just look for yourself.
We don't have the same avatar after all, so I stole nothing....its all in your head, like an optical illusion.

I think I got under your skin brother...keep the avatar, I will change mines soon enough. I know that being original is not something you are good at. Some are innovators and some are imitators. I like to innovate. Continue to think small, "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery"...

Now to the Barkley stuff. Barkley had a "very big headed ego"....because NBA superstars don't have big egos??? Seriously? You guys are hilarious.

I was wrong in one aspect of Barkley's game...he handled the ball well...for a power forward. But he didn't have the offensive game to play 3, he was a 4. There is no doubt about it. At his very best he dominated the paint. I don't doubt Barkley's greatness and I don't doubt that he wanted to win. What I will say is this depiction of Barkley as Stanley Roberts...some fat underachiever is hilarious. He averaged 11.5 rebounds per game...he doesn't do that as a 6'4" small forward. In his career, he played the 3 and the 5. But based on height, he should have been a 2 or even a 1. His body type is larger than most, his losing weight most likely would have affected his ability in the paint. That is what made him such a freakish athlete.



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[clonetrooper264]

Here's one thing I will say about Barkley...

His game was made to be a post player. Yeah he was a PG/short SGs size at 6'4" but you look at how he played the game and it's really no surprise that he played like a PF and thus excelled at the PF position despite his height. Now his weight...idk if it really would have hurt him a lot if he had dropped maybe 10 or 15 pounds. If I recall correctly, he was listed at 256lbs during his career (was probably over that for lots of it). Just look at the highlights Hou posted...that guy could still get up...and he was fairly quick for a 250-260lb guy. I think Hou said he was a freakish athlete. I would agree. Imo he still could have dominated the paint as a 235-240 pounder and in addition could've been faster and jumped higher and not have lost that much in the paint.

 

[97Bulls]

You don't have a clue as to what it takes to play small forward in the NBA. Yet you worship Pippen? How do you look at Barkley's skills and say he can play small forward? He was a great rebounder who could score in the post. He spent most of his career dominating the paint...why the hell would you want him on the perimeter? He didn't even get a long range shot until he was damn near 30 years old. He wasn't a guy who could create his own shot off the dribble...none of that. You mean to tell me you watched guys like Grant Hill and Dominique Wilkins and said Barkley could have done that?

What the hell are you talking about?

The long range shot wasnt used much in the 80s. Id say his shot evoled with the rest of the league. And as you said he had pretty good handles. Im sure he was probably a guard at some point perhaps in High School.


Obviously he was a stud. But to say or act as if his conditioning and refusal to give the same effort on defense he did on offense didnt cost him and his team wins is disengenuine.

Charles Barkley had an amazing statistical career. But to me he waas a Bizzarro Rodman.
Both were considered cancers, both great rebounders, both super athletes, both were undersized, but Rodman defended, while Barkley scored

 

[97Bulls]

Here's one thing I will say about Barkley...

His game was made to be a post player. Yeah he was a PG/short SGs size at 6'4" but you look at how he played the game and it's really no surprise that he played like a PF and thus excelled at the PF position despite his height. Now his weight...idk if it really would have hurt him a lot if he had dropped maybe 10 or 15 pounds. If I recall correctly, he was listed at 256lbs during his career (was probably over that for lots of it). Just look at the highlights Hou posted...that guy could still get up...and he was fairly quick for a 250-260lb guy. I think Hou said he was a freakish athlete. I would agree. Imo he still could have dominated the paint as a 235-240 pounder and in addition could've been faster and jumped higher and not have lost that much in the paint.

I think his conditioning forced him into thhe post. His freak athleticism at 270 and strength, allowed him to flourish as a PF.

But honestly. How much different was his offensive game was Adrian Dantley?