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Why can't the rookie be ready right away or very quickly to the point where you can get by with Josh McCown or a cheaper vet like Carson Palmer for a few games/half a season or whatever rather than locking into Cutler for the amount of money and years he will want?
When the rookie is ready..I say play him..Rare is the bird that comes in cold and makes an impact the first year...However if thats the case with our draftee, then play him as soon as the coaches say he is ready...But I want the option not to rush some kid in there and we wind up creating another David Carr

My solution is...Franchise Cutler and draft whomever and go from there
 

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Then you my friend are just as smart as you think you are...You know better then ALL NFL COACHES AND PLAYERS
Or you're just regurgitating nonsense you've read on this board from the Cutty fanboys. Would you like a list of first year QBs who either went to the playoffs their first season or put up impressive numbers of their own or both?
 

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Why not just respond to the post? It was a legit point.

Indeed.

Not like he couldn't have insulted me and then responded, just to make the point that he had a counter point, and then unload.


It's the people who unload with no attempt at responding that really have no leg to stand on.
 

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There's a sick, twisted part of me that hopes Cutler doesn't come back, just to see Bearsbud and HeHateMe lose their ever-loving shit.

Even if that's the case, I'll have the satisfaction of them not seeing me lose mine when Cutler is re-signed, since they keep trying to wrongly paint me as some frothing at the mouth Cutler hater in the first place... :smug:

Please find me a post where I've labeled you a Cutler hater and I will leave you alone (until you post more stupid shit.)
 

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Let me preface this by saying I like Cutler. The problem with Cutler is his decision making, I just don't think you can fix it this late in the game.

With that out of the way, we should probably franchise tag him and then focus on drafting our "QB of the Future". This is a deep draft for QBs, we'd be nuts to pass on it.

Franchising Cutler protects us for a season, granted maybe we could get by with McCown and save the cap hit of a QB franchise tag.

Get out of here with that common sense buddy...Just hate on Cutler and you will be fine

LOL he's basically saying exactly the same thing as those of us you call "haters" are saying.
 

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When the rookie is ready..I say play him..Rare is the bird that comes in cold and makes an impact the first year...However if thats the case with our draftee, then play him as soon as the coaches say he is ready...But I want the option not to rush some kid in there and we wind up creating another David Carr

My solution is...Franchise Cutler and draft whomever and go from there

Why does that other option have to be Cutler?
 

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LOL he's basically saying exactly the same thing as those of us you call "haters" are saying.

****, Bearsbud is now saying a lot of the same shit he's called me and others Haters for. Dude is inconsistent as **** and just gets off on being an ass I think.
 

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Did get us that win over GB, finally. Oh wait . . .

cant say what would have happened if he played that game...But in his body of work, I say hes better than McCown...if you disagree...then so be it
 

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Can't answer rationally so you insult me instead.


Noted.


If you had a logical answer, you could always have responded with that and then insulted me - ya know, have your cake and eat it too...

No, I didn't answer because you had a dumbfuck response to my original post. You're drawing stupid fucking comparisons like Brady & Montana to fight a point I never made.
 

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LOL he's basically saying exactly the same thing as those of us you call "haters" are saying.
absolutely not...The haters just want to dump Cutler and draft someone...Big difference

I dont think you would find one person here that doesnt want to draft a QB ..the diff is...keep Jay or dump him..Mick, you and I have had this discussion before
 

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Cause he is the best we have

That doesn't make any sense. Cutler's contract is up so as soon as the season in a certain sense ends he's really no longer "what you have". Is Cutler better than McCown? Yes. But simply keeping Cutler as the placeholder for a rookie at tens of millions of dollars a season doesn't strike me as very smart especailly if the rookie could be ready to play half way through the year.
 

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That throw should have never been made Jeffery had a guy all over him, had a player over the top of him, and there was a LB underneath the route. It was a high risk throw with a low percentage of being caught. It's first and 10 from deep in your own territory. Throw the ball away and move on, don't try and loft it into double coverage. You can say Jeffery should have caught it but I can argue the ball should have never even been thrown.

That player over the top of him is almost five yards away from Jeffery when the ball hits his hands, and appears to be sidestepping. Orakpo, is backpeddling, and is also about five yards away from him. Number 31(?) is behind Jeffery, and never even goes for the ball, and was very close to being PI. Jeffery had a very good shot to catch it, and the throw itself was in a good spot. That play was not as bad you say it was IMO.
 

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No, I didn't answer because you had a dumbfuck response to my original post. You're drawing stupid fucking comparisons like Brady & Montana to fight a point I never made.

You're avoiding the point.

Define "lesser". He made a hyperbole example that's pretty clear as to what he means.

Define "lesser". Go.
 

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That doesn't make any sense. Cutler's contract is up so as soon as the season in a certain sense ends he's really no longer "what you have". Is Cutler better than McCown? Yes. But simply keeping Cutler as the placeholder for a rookie at tens of millions of dollars a season doesn't strike me as very smart especailly if the rookie could be ready to play half way through the year.

Franchise Cutler for the 1 year insurance
 

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That player over the top of him is almost five yards away from Jeffery when the ball hits his hands, and appears to be sidestepping. Orakpo, is backpeddling, and is also about five yards away from him. Number 31(?) is behind Jeffery, and never even goes for the ball, and was very close to being PI. Jeffery had a very good shot to catch it, and the throw itself was in a good spot. That play was not as bad you say it was IMO.
You're blind. Cutler threw a ball across the field on 1st and 10 deep in his own territory to a blanketed WR with DB help over the top within yards. It's a risky throw, one that given the situation doesn't need to be made.
 

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Why not just respond to the post? It was a legit point.

If he thinks that a QBs physical tools is all I was talking about, he's a fucking idiot that deserves no response. I've seen this vash before. He'll ignore the entire post, find one word, then argue against a claim that was never even hinted at in the first place.
 

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Franchise Cutler for the 1 year insurance

That doesn't make any sense. Cutler's contract is up so as soon as the season in a certain sense ends he's really no longer "what you have". Is Cutler better than McCown? Yes. But simply keeping Cutler as the placeholder for a rookie at tens of millions of dollars a season doesn't strike me as very smart especailly if the rookie could be ready to play half way through the year.

:obama: So with all the issues the Bears have and all the holes to fill you're advocating spending 19 million or so on an insurance policy for a QB that if you take another QB to develop it's pretty clear you aren't that sold on? That sounds like good cap management to you? Why not sign a guy like Carson Palmer for a fraction of the cost and fill in other roster spots for the money and still develop the QB behind a vet?
 
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