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Define "lesser QB".
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Define "lesser QB".
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You're just ass hurt because you made a comment you didn't think through.
You said " Irony is, some of you then want lesser QBs to replace him."
And all I asked is: "define lesser?" and then jumped ahead a step in the debate by putting out there that physical attributes on their own don't make someone greater or lesser, and used 2 examples of people less athletically gifted than cutler who were far better quarterbacks.
If that wasn't your point, all you had to do was define what you meant by "lesser".
That you didn't do that, but attacked me instead, only makes it seem like I hit it on the nose, you were thinking of it in terms of athleticism, and with the examples I made, I shot down your argument before you could even make it, and now you're acting pissy over it. Because if that weren't the case, you simply would have explained what you meant by lesser.
Either way, you're not doing yourself any favors.
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So with all the issues the Bears have and all the holes to fill you're advocating spending 19 million or so on an insurance policy for a QB
Yes..Its worth the money to have him...Why spend on a new QB, rush him into the NFL, and ruin the guy?..Makes no sense to me..The franchise money is well spent IMO.. Jay knows the system, the players and coaches..
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If you look at 2011, you see how Cutler was elevated by the fact the Bears did so poorly when he was out. Nobody really looked at the fact that their QB at the time was just beyond bad. Now, you have a backup QB who would likely not even be in the league if not for the Bears and he's been doing very well in Cutler's absence so I would think that would play against Cutler just as much as Hanie's 42 qb rating boosted the perception of Cutler's importance to the team.
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Exactly. If he knows in his head what he thinks is a lesser QB, he should have just defined it. As it is, I think this confirms I destroyed his argument before he could even make it, and now "he mad".
If I am wrong, then he just has to define what he meant by lesser.
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it's the "likely overstated" monster!
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He really has as much of a chance as being ruined as he does succeeding. Its the risk you take. We pretty much know what we have with Jay. He is talents but his mechanics still blow. He is also injury prone.
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Think that all ya want..I still believe Jay is a better wau to go
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Right..and he has terrible body language to boot.... IMO...you can eliminate the risk by franchising Cutler for the year
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Derp. More stupid shit. When orton was available, people wantes him since they thought he could take the starting job from jay. Then people wanted to see Hanie, until they saw Hanie. Now people want to go with mccown. Are any of these not lesser QBs than Jay? Keep In mind I said lesser QBs. Not lesser arm strength, not lesser athletic, lesser QB. Now take what you know about what goes into a quarterback and apply it.
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Okay, fine you've stated your opinion, quit badgering everyone who has a different opinion.
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whoa..Im responding to posts directed at me and asking a question..When the question stop..I will as well
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14 pages later, this thread was not a good read...
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I disagree. We have a better offensive system, better players at the skill positions and on the line, and a QB guru HC who calls the plays - one could argue this is the best possible scenario for a rookie QB joining the league to come into - you're giving a rook the best opportunity to succeed. Still a risk, he still could be bad, but you might at least have a system and a fresh kid to run it and buy in who might just be fine in said system, because its the system. Hell, look to McCown as an example of that, as well as Palmer saying that this is the best offense he's ever seen as a QB back in the preseason.
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Ah, yes, the egotistical Vash is back. Welcome back. LOL, mad at you. Keep stroking that ego. Who have people been clamoring to replace Jay of late? It doesn't take a genius to figure out who or what I'm talking about.
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Define less QB's in context of QBs that will be available next year to "replace him" long term(which is the entire point of this discussion)
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If you're going to franchise Cutler and draft a rookie, you're only keeping Cutler one more year anyway in all likelihood. Why pay Cutler 19 million dollars for that season when you could pay McCown (who runs this particular offense better, but for sake of argument, I'll just say at least AS well as Cutler) who will do it for a million? That $18 mill you could use to help make the defense better too.
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cause Jay knows the system, coaches, and players,,Palmer would have to start a new
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