This is a pretty good read.

[Willis1524]

I don't know. He has a better line and better weapons this year too so it's tough for me to say Cuter is "improving" when 1. the statistical improvement isn't that large and 2. it may not be really Cutler "improving" so much as he has better players around him. It's tough to gauge "progression" in the offense because this is the base line season for it. Trestman's offense is better than Tice, but that was kind of to be expected. Not sure if that is really a progression for Cutler so much as a regression to the above average that he was before Tice. (2013 Rate + of 103)

All excellent points, and if some of the Cutler "haters" discussed Cutler like this, it probably wouldn't turn into the usual garbage arguments. I personally believe that Cutler is progressing, and I have seen him make less stupid decisions. Both of those could also be attributed to the things you have pointed out, but I still feel the Bears should stick with Cutler in the short term, and draft another QB. That is all I can really say.

 

[Willis1524]

Derek Carr, Zach Mettenberg, Brett Hundley if you're only looking at the 15th pick for a QB

I dislike Hundley, but am intrigued by Mettenberg. Not really sure if any of those are really worth that high of a pick though. I would also say we pick closer to 20-22 range.

 

[HeHateMe]

All excellent points, and if some of the Cutler "haters" discussed Cutler like this, it probably wouldn't turn into the usual garbage arguments. I personally believe that Cutler is progressing, and I have seen him make less stupid decisions. Both of those could also be attributed to the things you have pointed out, but I still feel the Bears should stick with Cutler in the short term, and draft another QB. That is all I can really say.

The problem is, there's this one guy that doesn't see Cutler getting the ball out a lot more quickly, thowing the ball away when it's the right thing to do, and overall being more efficient, because he's too busy watching McCown play.

 

[FirstTimer]

All excellent points, and if some of the Cutler "haters" discussed Cutler like this, it probably wouldn't turn into the usual garbage arguments. I personally believe that Cutler is progressing, and I have seen him make less stupid decisions. Both of those could also be attributed to the things you have pointed out, but I still feel the Bears should stick with Cutler in the short term, and draft another QB. That is all I can really say.

His interception percentage this season(3.0) is nearly identical to last year (3.2)

 

[Willis1524]

His interception percentage this season(3.0) is nearly identical to last year (3.2)

But interceptions are not always on the QB. I haven't noticed too many of the **** it throws that have plagued him the past few years.

 

[Warrior Spirit]

Because you don't know what good is because you cant see the future? Is it wrong to have a backup plan, a failsafe in case your plan doesn't work?

It is wrong to have a backup plan that holds you back. You want to spend 15 mil+ as insurance but it doesn't work like that in the cap era. If you want to find a good QB you have to commit to finding a good QB and you likely won't do that when you already have a ton of money invested in the position.

 

[Nail Polish]

It is wrong to have a backup plan that holds you back. You want to spend 15 mil+ as insurance but it doesn't work like that in the cap era. If you want to find a good QB you have to commit to finding a good QB and you likely won't do that when you already have a ton of money invested in the position.

So youre saying FT was wrong when he said dumping Cutler would save us money to use on other areas?

 

[ijustposthere]

Plenty of people including myself have expressed that opinion this year. But LOL if it makes you happy.

No, it hasn't. This is the very first I've heard this, & I'm on here plenty enough to have seen it. For the record, I trust Emery. If his decision is letting jay walk, I'm fine with that. I am a cutler fan, but im a bears fan first. My only problem are statements like yours about Cutler. Some of you wait for hard statistical evidence then claim it's "what you've been saying" all along, when many of you just hate the guy because. Irony is, some of you then want lesser QBs to replace him.

 

[FirstTimer]

I dislike Hundley, but am intrigued by Mettenberg. Not really sure if any of those are really worth that high of a pick though. I would also say we pick closer to 20-22 range.

QB's I like in this class:
Bridgewater
Carr
Mettenberg
Hundley
Aaron Murray
Keith Price


Project guy I like with Trestman:
Logan Thomas
Marcus Mariota

Bryn Renner, David Fales, and Connor Shaw could be guys I look at late in the draft(4th round and later).

I don't buy the hype on Boyd or Manziel as an NFL QB.

AJ McCarron is a wildcard. I can't decide if he's Andy Dalton(solid mid to middle upper starter) or Kirk Cousins(Career backup with mid starter upside)

 

[Warrior Spirit]

lol hes a starting caliber qb who we have won a lot of games with and stand to win even more. now honestly I don't see a fa qb coming up who would be the better guy imo and I figure we draft somewhere around 15ish so who would u suggest?

An average starter who you won with when you had a solid team that included a very good defense that was the dominant unit for your team. And now that the Bears have one of the very best combination of weapons, we see he ain't so special.

 

[ShiftyDevil]

Let me preface this by saying I like Cutler. The problem with Cutler is his decision making, I just don't think you can fix it this late in the game.

With that out of the way, we should probably franchise tag him and then focus on drafting our "QB of the Future". This is a deep draft for QBs, we'd be nuts to pass on it.

Franchising Cutler protects us for a season, granted maybe we could get by with McCown and save the cap hit of a QB franchise tag.

 

[Nail Polish]

Let me preface this by saying I like Cutler. The problem with Cutler is his decision making, I just don't think you can fix it this late in the game.

With that out of the way, we should probably franchise tag him and then focus on drafting our "QB of the Future". This is a deep draft for QBs, we'd be nuts to pass on it.

Franchising Cutler protects us for a season, granted maybe we could get by with McCown and save the cap hit of a QB franchise tag.

Get out of here with that common sense buddy...Just hate on Cutler and you will be fine

 

[Warrior Spirit]

So youre saying FT was wrong when he said dumping Cutler would save us money to use on other areas?

He was exactly right. Your reading comprehension just sucks.

 

[Warrior Spirit]

Peyton Manning2014,Peyton Manning 2013, Peyton Manning 2005, and
Peyton Manning 2004. Am I right?

Duh, yeah!

 

[ShiftyDevil]

Also, all the injuries. We can't rely Cutler to complete a season, which is scary.

 

[Nail Polish]

Because Cutler will cost you nearly $19 million with the franchise tag and you can use that money elsewhere.

You want to spend 15 mil+ as insurance but it doesn't work like that in the cap era. If you want to find a good QB you have to commit to finding a good QB and you likely won't do that when you already have a ton of money invested in the position.

He was exactly right. Your reading comprehension just sucks.

So FT wanting to spend the money in other areas and you wanting to spend it on another QB are the same?....rofl

 

[FirstTimer]

But interceptions are not always on the QB. I haven't noticed too many of the **** it throws that have plagued him the past few years.

Ok but let's be real here. How many times this year have they not been on Cutler?

 

[ShiftyDevil]

Ok but let's be real here. How many times this year have they not been on Cutler?

And how many picks were dropped?

 

[FatBabiesHaveNoPride]

Let me preface this by saying I like Cutler. The problem with Cutler is his decision making, I just don't think you can fix it this late in the game.

With that out of the way, we should probably franchise tag him and then focus on drafting our "QB of the Future". This is a deep draft for QBs, we'd be nuts to pass on it.

Franchising Cutler protects us for a season, granted maybe we could get by with McCown and save the cap hit of a QB franchise tag.

Yep - decision making.

For every Cutler INT, there are dozens of people making dozens of excuses (bad route, lucky defensive play, etc). Not all QBs have elite players to throw to. At the end of the day, I see Jay make mistakes that I simply don't see the elite players make. I see him make the mistakes that are more akin to the lower tier QBs.

Bottom line is that Jay is like many QBs in the league - very good, but not great. There are probably at least a dozen teams who would be happy to have him. Unless you have Brady/Manning/Brees/Rodgers, you are going to get mistakes from your QB - Rivers, Romo, Flacco, Ryan, Stafford, etc.

Jay is in that group.

I'm just surprised at how hard it is to find good Qbs. There are only 32 of those jobs in the world and 6B people on the planet. Of those 32, at least 10 are complete garbage. That means there are maybe a half dozen, out of 6B souls on the planet - who can do that job at an elite level.

Don't get me started on the dropoff for backups.

 

[FirstTimer]

So FT wanting to spend the money in other areas and you wanting to spend it on another QB are the same?....rofl

"Your reading comprehension just sucks"