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I think they made each other better by eating, sleeping, and shitting football together. Nelson is getting the hype but big Mike is being a bit overlooked. He's extremely versatile and could play any position on the line. He will go earlier than many think...

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He'd be an outstanding pick..IMO. How long have we wanted a stud OT prospect in this town? Now we have a shot at one who is proven, at least collegiality, at both OT positions who is also a very balanced blocker. I would LOVE to see McGlinchey at #8 & I would easily rather have McGlinchey over Nelson.
 

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He'd be an outstanding pick..IMO. How long have we wanted a stud OT prospect in this town? Now we have a shot at one who is proven, at least collegiality, at both OT positions who is also a very balanced blocker. I would LOVE to see McGlinchey at #8 & I would easily rather have McGlinchey over Nelson.

Honestly for the long term, if we go OL I'd rather it be a top Guard over a top Tackle.

LT is one of the top paid positions in football. If Trubs and Floyd develop and play well, we are going to have to PAY those guys in a few years. Donr think we could pay a top OT as well. But a solid, but unspectacular player at LT like Leno? I think it makes much more sense...even if McGlinchey turns out to be a stud...
 

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He'd be an outstanding pick..IMO. How long have we wanted a stud OT prospect in this town? Now we have a shot at one who is proven, at least collegiality, at both OT positions who is also a very balanced blocker. I would LOVE to see McGlinchey at #8 & I would easily rather have McGlinchey over Nelson.

If it's announced at the podium that the Bears selected McGlinchey with the #8 pick i'll puke.
 

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I really would not ***** about any of these guys at 8 excluding Chubb and Barkley...

Nelson
Edmunds
James
Ward
Smith
Fitzpatrick
Vea - not sexy but an excellent player
McGlinchey - see Vea
Davenport
 

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Its not Edmunds body, age, combine, experience, or highlights I don't like....its his god awful low lights. Why would we draft a guy who looks soft in game tape, a guy who looks lost, a guy who takes poor angles, comes in tentative, isn't physical...etc.

His lowlights are the worst in top 20 of draft for sure. Check it out if you haven't watched 10 minutes of actual game tape. Add in he is at least 2-3 years from developing into OLB and he has positional value problems and among our "NEEDS" has the most capable back-up/filler guy in Kwiatkowski already there he probably realistically could not catch up and beat out his rookie year.

For the life of me I cannot figure out why peeps want Edmunds over defensive ANCHORS like

James, Vea, Smith, Ward. or the physical mountain at OLB Davenport.

I guess you guys see OLB? You really want to pick a top 10 guy and move them? unprecedented. just no. you all are going to be sad come draft day so just preparing you now.

If Nelson goes to 8 we take him, otherwise we are drafting a pro-bowl defender not a chump.

James and Vea are pretty sure picks.
 

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Ive been all about Nelson at 8 for a long time now. But... the more i look at Edmunds, the more i like what he "could be". The kid is 19. How NFL-ready were any of you guys at 19? Lol. He will learn, get bigger/stronger, and be coached....and be terrifying. I still like Nelson a little more at this point, hes ready NOW. But i would also be happy if we got Edmunds.
 

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Like a few others, Nelson, Davenport, Edmunds. Fitz and James are both very good talents but neither is totally elite and for safety, a bit too rich for my blood.

I think both M.Fitzpatrick and D.James have a chance at being elite especially D.James.
 

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James didn't make half the plays in college that those guys you listed made.

Three safeties known for taking the ball away from the offense and then one of the best cove corners to come out of college in years. James is an in the box strong safety. His value isn't nearly the same as Thomas, Berry, Smith or Ramsey.

Derwin James is Jabrill Peppers.


You're crazy as hell with that comparison.
 

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Gabe carimi.

Would you get off this damn tirade already. It’s no more or less safe to just go offense with every pick. Any position can bust. Get your head out of your damn ass already.

Funny you tell me to get off the tirade and then agree with me.
Yes any position can bust so digging up players that busted 30 years ago is meaningless idiocy.
 

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Xplosive, i can see the argument for drafting James at #8 , me myself would rather have Minkah. Only for the fact we already have Amos and i can see sliding Minkah in and playing slot, outside or going 3 safety's . But jmo

I love D.James and Minkah but James a little more for the safety position but Minkah fits the Bears better right now because he can play more positions.

Bears have shown interest in Fitz. Not so much James...

R.Pace smoke screen??

I can respect that, I was more just debating the idea that James wasn’t worthy of the pick. I like Amos and he had a good bounce-back season. With that said they havent re-signed him yet, and I think James can be moved around just like Fitz.

The Bears are in nickel quite often so moving James to LB or NB would allow the Bears to match up very well no matter what teams try to do.

I'm a big Amos fan but i'm also questioning how much Pace/Fangio like him as our starter and depending on what him and his agent are asking for for his next contract i'm questioning if Pace thinks he's worth it and maybe thinking replacing him with a D.James or M.Fitzpatrick on that rookie contract might be the better team option. This is obviously complete speculation on my part but i could see it being true.

As much as I love Roquan, he simply cannot be a MLB at the next level. He is incapable of stacking and shedding blockers. As a 3-4 ILB, you can't hide unless you have some absolute monsters upfront.

He isn't a fit for the Bears. His best fit would be Oakland at #10 or Dallas at #19.

I actually have R.Smith as my surprise pick for us at #8 along with a couple others. I think he fits a 3-4 or a 4-3 cause he's a great football player that can adjust to any scheme. Pretty much every mock i've seen has him going to the Raiders and it's been that way for a while.
 

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1. Edmunds - At worst, I think you get an ILB who can hold down the middle for years to come and develop into a 3 down force in the run and pass game. At best you get a guy who at 20 years old grows into an OLB who can stop the run, cover and more importantly pass rush. Having two OLB that can also cover in Floyd and Edmunds would make the D ridiculously dynamic and flexible.

2. Davenport - If you can't get a guy that can potentially cover and pass rush then Davenport is the pick for me as the guy that can develop into an elite pass rusher.

3. Fitzpatrick - At worst you get a great safety. At best you get a guy that can play CB long term. In the interim, you have a guy that can get reps at both as he can back up CB and S which combined still probably gives him as many reps as a starter and allows him to ease into the role.
 

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Its not Edmunds body, age, combine, experience, or highlights I don't like....its his god awful low lights. Why would we draft a guy who looks soft in game tape, a guy who looks lost, a guy who takes poor angles, comes in tentative, isn't physical...etc.

His lowlights are the worst in top 20 of draft for sure. Check it out if you haven't watched 10 minutes of actual game tape. Add in he is at least 2-3 years from developing into OLB and he has positional value problems and among our "NEEDS" has the most capable back-up/filler guy in Kwiatkowski already there he probably realistically could not catch up and beat out his rookie year.

For the life of me I cannot figure out why peeps want Edmunds over defensive ANCHORS like

James, Vea, Smith, Ward. or the physical mountain at OLB Davenport.

I guess you guys see OLB? You really want to pick a top 10 guy and move them? unprecedented. just no. you all are going to be sad come draft day so just preparing you now.

If Nelson goes to 8 we take him, otherwise we are drafting a pro-bowl defender not a chump.

James and Vea are pretty sure picks.

Probably because he is at least 2 years younger than most everyone else and most of the things you are complaining about are easily correctable. There is something to be said for a prospect at 19 already being considered a top 10 pick when most guys his age would be going into the redshirt sophomore year of college.

If a coach can't take a guy like Edmunds and at least make him a great ILB and at best make him a great OLB with pass rush then probably something wrong with the coach.

For 2018, Edmunds can most likely get reps comparable as a starter by playing ILB and OLB and hell even DE if he keeps growing. So the positional value comes in him being able to play all along the front 7. For a guy like Fangio who is all about disguising his defenses, Edwards and Floyd gives him the ability to rush or drop back either one of them in coverage. Makes the D more flexible.

Combine work out warrior BS. Happens every year.

He was a Butkus award finalist and had 32.5 TFL and 10 sacks the past 2 years playing on pretty much nothing but raw athleticism. He was getting notice before the combine because of the combination of youth and production despite how raw he is as a prospect. He is legitimately a guy that can still be productive despite a lack of technique and will play his rookie year at 20.
 

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I think they made each other better by eating, sleeping, and shitting football together. Nelson is getting the hype but big Mike is being a bit overlooked. He's extremely versatile and could play any position on the line. He will go earlier than many think...

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I wonder if them playing next to each other has anything to do with how great they played and if they can play just as good without having a great player playing next to them and doing it at the next level?? I know every Nelson and McGlinchey fan will say no way but it's actually a legit question. I'm not saying it's right but ya never know especially at the next level.
 

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Probably because he is at least 2 years younger than everyone else and most of the things you are complaining about are easily correctable. There is something to be said for a prospect at 19 already being considered a top 10 pick when most guys his age would be going into the redshirt sophomore year of college.

If a coach can't take a guy like Edmunds and at least make him a great ILB and at best make him a great OLB with pass rush then probably something wrong with the coach.

For 2018, Edmunds can most likely get reps comparable as a starter by playing ILB and OLB and hell even DE if he keeps growing. So the positional value comes in him being able to play all along the front 7. For a guy like Fangio who is all about disguising his defenses, Edwards and Floyd gives him the ability to rush or drop back either one of them in coverage. Makes the D more flexible.


R.Smith is only 11 months older then Edmunds.
 

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Davenport, Edmunds, Landry - anyone not named Nelson. Pace just let go of a guard who made the pro bowl in 2016, 5th ranked guard in 2017, allowed only 3 sacks combined in 2016 and 2017 just to take another frickin guard?
This feels an awful lot like 2015. Take a team strength (WR at the time), turn it into a need, then use your biggest chip to fill that need.
 

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R.Smith is only 11 months older then Edmunds.

I wasn't including Smith as I don't like him for the Bears but sure should have said most everyone else instead of everyone else. Smith is smallish for a 3-4 and fits more as a 4-3 WILL to me.
 

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Well I agree they made each other better by playing together, and hanging out together as a line - all of them.

To your point, a great college player would be basically the same as an NFL caliber starter. That's who they will be playing with - at the next level, so that doesn't worry me.

It's hard to say that any one guy on a line can handle more than 1-2 guys per play alone. Both these dudes are versatile extremely hard working team players, which should make them both successful at the next level.

Heistand has recruited them since high school and they saw a high level of success. It will be very interesting to see what happens since he's now our line coach again, and if we even have the chance to get either of these players.

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