Trade Deadline: What Moves Would You Like?

[MassHavoc]

Full amount. For example, they could add Ovechkin ($9,538,462) and Malkin ($8,700,000) and still have like $4M left of room. They have $5M in "real cap space" but prorated from the deadline is equivalent to nearly $22M of cap space at the beginning of the year.



It's just easier to look at it that way instead of prorating every contract to see if they'll fit.

Right, thanks for the clarifacation that's exactly what I thought, I just couldn't think of the word prorated and couldn't figure out how to ask it. Been a long week or two for my brain. Anyway you look at it, it's a shit ton of space.

 

[the canadian dream]

[font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Names like Nabakov aren't sounding so bad right now...**** me I cant believe i just said that.[/font]



[font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Ugh no.....i didnt say that...lets pretend I didnt say that.[/font]





[font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]New coach? Can we trade for a new coach? What's Don Hay doing? Still coaching the Vancouver Giants? I would trade Q for Hay. Would the Giants?[/font]

 

[Rex]

Can we get Hitchcock?

 

[CLWolf81]

[font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Names like Nabakov aren't sounding so bad right now...**** me I cant believe i just said that.[/font]



[font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Ugh no.....i didnt say that...lets pretend I didnt say that.[/font]

There's always old man Rollover. I'm sure Tampa would let him go for a small price. -.-



I can't believe I just said that.

 

[bookjones]

Eh, so people still think we need to fill holes now even though there won't be any measure of Hawks success without Toews being able to do jackshit with a fucked up wrist? **** it. They need to just do whatever they need to in order to fix whatever is wrong with his wrist an/or arm and just let the chips fall where they may. Whether they don't make the playoffs or even if they do manage to shoehorn themselves into the 8th spot I don't foresee any typical "Toews heroics" this time. He's a 1C (and one of the best Forwards period in the entire league) with a fucked up wrist, there's just nothing he's going to be able to do or just "turn on" because he wills it. Not to mention Sharp is playing with a broken bone in his wrist. The Hawks are fucked because of the Toews factor. Period. And it ain't like PIT losing Sid when they have Geno and then Staal that they can work down the list from as the rest of their center spine.



I'd rather not give up the entire farm for some rentals that will likely be toast on July 1st. You MUST have a viable prospect pool in today's post-lockout NHL model with every team defining then devoting substantial money to cores. You have to be able to develop your own talent especially if you are likely never drafting Top 15 for an extended stretch of years. I'm not saying the Hawks should do nothing with their cap space or some current roster players or some of the prospects until the offseason if there's a sensible move to be made before the trade deadline but I just don't really see a means to an end I guess in light of Toews being injured with something that I see is likely going to affect him the entire rest of the season. Thank god this year's Draft is mega-loaded because that could likely wind up being the one saving grace of this season.

 

[dlrob315]

It may be a testament to Toews but if this team can't win because of one player, then this team is simply built wrong.

 

[PatrickShart]

Get Josh Harding

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

Get Josh Harding

I might be thinking of the wrong goalie... but isn't he really injury prone?

 

[PatrickShart]

Eh...kinda....but not sucky prone



He's an RFA at years end..only making like 750K now

 

[bookjones]

It may be a testament to Toews but if this team can't win because of one player, then this team is simply built wrong.

I am not in the least undervaluing the rest of the Forwards corps. It's not as simple as Toews is "just one player" it's the fact that he's the Hawks 1C. Do I think they can win to some measure without Toews, sure. They've had to play for some brief stretches before without him or with him not being 100% (and it wasn't too pretty over the years) so yeah they could win some games. Do I think they could win it all or go far with Toews being out or one-armed? No. Cup wining teams post-lockout, hell just really successful teams period do well because they have a bonafied 1C stud. Teams that don't, i.e., CGY, tend to go nowhere. And because the Hawks don't have a definitive, true 2C that makes a no Toews situation that much more difficult to overcome. Add in Sharpie's wrist when he is someone the Hawks could turn to as a 2C and the situation is compounded again.

 

[Shoots_he_scores]

Get Josh Harding

LOVE that idea, Harding is a very underrated goalie IMO. Question is what happens to Crow/Emery, one's probably gonna have to go somewhere in a trade and I don't think Emery has much value.



I keep hearing Hal Gill's name as available and he's a guy no one here talks about. Wouldn't be my first choice but with the limited availability of Dmen he might be a good choice, good on the penalty kill and he's always played well in the postseason. I've also heard Stars dman Niclas Grossman name thrown around, another guy who is physical and could play on our second pairing and cut down some of Leddy's minutes.



Long shot but I wonder if Anaheim would be interested in moving Visnovsky. Obviously he'd probably cost us a lot but he can move the puck he's an all around good Dman, should have been a Norris finalist last year.

 

[PatrickShart]

They'd be able to keep all 3 on the roster...just let go of someone else (Scott), if needed. Harding's had his injury woes.



Hal would be a decent pick up as well. I think ANA is still thinking they're in the hunt. I think they have a big road trip coming up that leads right into the TDL - that'll tell if they're sellers or not.

 

[dlrob315]

I am not in the least undervaluing the rest of the Forwards corps. It's not as simple as Toews is "just one player" it's the fact that he's the Hawks 1C. Do I think they can win to some measure without Toews, sure. They've had to play for some brief stretches before without him or with him not being 100% (and it wasn't too pretty over the years) so yeah they could win some games. Do I think they could win it all or go far with Toews being out or one-armed? No. Cup wining teams post-lockout, hell just really successful teams period do well because they have a bonafied 1C stud. Teams that don't, i.e., CGY, tend to go nowhere. And because the Hawks don't have a definitive, true 2C that makes a no Toews situation that much more difficult to overcome. Add in Sharpie's wrist when he is someone the Hawks could turn to as a 2C and the situation is compounded again.

When broken down like that, I am a buyer.

 

[Ton]

Get Josh Harding

For once, I agree with you!

 

[BigPete]

You guys still think its the goalies? Wow. Our defense sucks, end of story. Scooter should not have traded Soup.

 

[the canadian dream]

Goalkeeping is def one of the multiple issues and problems.



We all keep trying to pin point things to one problem. That's where the biggest mistakes are being made. There are multiple problems. Goalkeeping is one. Can't see how anyone could defend it at this point. Defense is another big problem Pete i don't think one person thinks it isn't. Coaching problem 3. Soft top 6. Another issue. Lack of center depth another. Also lack of lw depth. Management has had its fair share of problems also.

This club is currently riddled with many problems.

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

Should have traded for Dubinsky.

 

[Irish Hawk]

Just saw this on the 300 level from Mark Spector from Sportsnet Canada. Can find any direct quoates on the sportsnet site so not sure how realiable it is but he says Stan is looking at Nabokov which we all heard the rumors but also taking Khabi back from the Oilers. Desperate times folks.



http://300level.net/?p=3262

 

[the canadian dream]

If stan is looking at Khabi I bet it's a package deal including Gagner also (maybe a different player or maybe others included). Thing with Khabi is he is still under contract till the end of next year. That's a big risk if someone else isn't involved. I have no issues with bringing Khabi back anything is better than what we have right now. Emery would have to go the other way or waivers or whatever. I don't think this club is ditching Crawfords career just yet. But who knows the Oilers need a young goalie..would they gamble on Crawford...would that be easier to get a package deal done? Have the Hawks given up on Crawford and now looking to Salak as the future? Would the Hawks be comfy with Khabi for another season? I can't answer these questions but they are worth asking.



Interesting rumor and rather fun to think about.



Nabakov? Well he would be pretty much for free as far as cap goes and no commitment needed past this year as he is UFA. Horrible playoff goalie...good regular season goalie.



Each comes with bennifits each come with downfalls.



Really interested in the Oilers rumor though cause I really think it would be a package deal there.

 

[Rex]

Khabi for next season too?? If it's a deal for JUST Khabi than not only is it Special person, but you can kiss Crawford's career confidence goodbye. It will ruin him like a Belarus slapshot ruined Tommy Salo