Trade Deadline: What Moves Would You Like?

[Irish Hawk]

If Stan does go for Khabi, salery wise it would need to be Cory going back the other way and I'm probably ok with that as he is not the goalie answer long term. So it would be Khabi as the #1 for the remainder of this season then get the genuine #1 goalie this team has been craving for years and have Khabi as back up. Or wishfull thinking and will never happen but involve Vancoover in the deal to get Cory Schneider to the Hawks in some fashion, then they will be sorted in that department.

 

[the canadian dream]

Hawks have a crap load of cap space to fit Khabi in with or without Crawford (that huge contract the Hawks gave him is long gone hes running on a 3.5 cap hit now or something like that). Really would have to be more than Khabi coming our way for me to be happy (and it better not be Horcoff) otherwise Nabakov is the better and cheaper quick fix for this season (that hurt to say). Don't think we could get another season out of Khabi but hell he might actually be a guy you just bring back to mentor Salak or Craw (as he still needs it apparently) and then offer a goalie coaching job too. Dream scenerio I think Khabi would make a good goalie coach (and a fun one).



Schnieder isn't out of the question but its a long shot. It wouldn't be a direct deal with the Canucks as there is no way in hell that org is dealing someone of that caliber to us. Not a chance. Would have to come some other crazy shit way depending on what the Canucks do with him before the trade deadline or what they have in store in the offseason with his RFA status.

 

[Pez68]

Patrick Kane for Bobby Ryan.

 

[the canadian dream]

Patrick Kane for Bobby Ryan.

i would do it



dont tell anyone.







I dont even know what im talkign about anymore. Im tired. Im so fucking tired.

 

[Pez68]

Unfortunately I don't think Anaheim would.

 

[the canadian dream]

Im flip flopping on that one Pez.



When I think about it more I wouldn't do it.



I have to take a step back. I know what Kane is capable of, we have all seen it. Can't go on this season to judge him. Everyone is sucking so its all even keel right now. so it's not fair to just judge Kane even though his season overall has been lack luster and disappointing.



Bobby Ryan is a good player but point production wise he is no better than Kane and he too has been playing with some massive talent in Anaheim and yet not putting up Bobby Ryan type numbers either this season. Ryan adds a more physical presence (which I think this team needs desperatly in its top 6) but meh he isn't the play maker Kane can be. Could be though and he can certainly hit twine.



I don't think you could go wrong with either player but I think it's unfair to forget what Kane can do based on this season so far.



P.S. I don't really buy into the Q line juggling as something that can fully explain Kanes below average season. It hasn't helped but I don't think it should effect a guy that much esp since he has been playing RW for a while now and that transition back shouldn't be that hard for someone with Kanes talents. Will always hate when Q uses him on the lw on powerplays though..but its not as if Kane has never scored a goal on the left side before (cough couch game 6 stanley cup overtime). Still hate it though...and it makes no sense having a left handed shot on that side on a PP.

 

[Pez68]

This has nothing to do with Kane's play this season. I just think Ryan is exactly what the Hawks lack in their top six. He's a RH shot, and the Hawks have like 3 RH shots on the entire team. He's a power forward, a huge hole on this team. He's a shoot first player, another huge hole on this team. He isn't afraid to be nasty, again, something the Hawks lack. He goes to the tough areas and wins board battles. He is a ***** to get off the puck on the boards. You get the idea. I just think that the Hawks have other players that do what Kane does already. Maybe not as well as he does, but well enough. Sharp, Toews, Hossa, Bolland, all capable of setting guys up.



Kane is never going to change how he plays. He's never going to go to the net hard and pay the price. He's never going to get his nose dirty along the boards. He is never going to be a guy that can win those puck battles and put the puck in the net off rebounds. He is always going to be a one-dimensional finesse player who plays the perimeter.



If the Hawks target a top six player, it better not be another fucking finesse guy. It better be an Iginla or Hartnell type. I am slowly starting to think that this core, as assembled, doesn't compliment each other very well. That Kane and Toews magic seems to be gone.

 

[the canadian dream]

Def agree that those are qualities we need in a top 6. 100% agree. I ache for it...ache HARD!!!



Agree completely no more finess top 6 guys. Not needed. Like always we need a powerforward. Ryan would be that guy. If there were a way to get him withoug giving up Hossa, Kane, Toews, Sharp I would be all for it...but that's not happening. Hawks keep showing us guys that could be powerforwards but they keep fading out and never living up to potential. Getting tired of that. Not that Toews doesn't get mucky and doesn't have the qualities of the powerforward but he does seem to be doing it all on his own some nights doesn't it? Hes getting beat up doing it all himself. God it was nice the days when Sharp played tougher wasn't it? Would love to have an ounce of that Sharp back...and no way slamming Sharp..durring this garbage disaster slump hes been our best forward...in my opinion.



I really do like Bobby Ryan..good freaking player that kid and best is yet to come. Hes the type of player I like most. I have never been a Kane style player lover but it's Kane man..the kid has given me memories I will never forget..just hard not to have some love for the kid.



I know what you mean though.

 

[Pez68]

You have to give value to get value. Is there anyone here that doesn't think Kane eventually ends up in Buffalo anyway?

 

[Rex]

You have to give value to get value. Is there anyone here that doesn't think Kane eventually ends up in Buffalo anyway?

I don't think he will.



I think he goes to Florida

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

I don't think he will.



I think he goes to Florida

I am probably completely wrong... but Kane seems like one of those guys that would really only want to play in a big city/market.



Don't know how attached he was to Tallon... just seems like a big city kind of kid.

 

[BigPete]

You have to give value to get value. Is there anyone here that doesn't think Kane eventually ends up in Buffalo anyway?

Kane is more valuable than Roy if that's where you are going with this, but I do think Roy could be the second line center we are looking for if he comes at the right price.

 

[Rex]

I am probably completely wrong... but Kane seems like one of those guys that would really only want to play in a big city/market.



Don't know how attached he was to Tallon... just seems like a big city kind of kid.

so Rangers or Kings?



and I'm pretty sure he was attached to Tallon. They all were

 

[winos5]

Give Huet a second shot, can't be worse than Emery or Crow at this point, and we have oodles of cap space.

 

[fanof19]

If Scooter isn't putting up anyone worthwhile as bait, it doesn't matter who you want, you'll never get them. If we can see the holes, don't you think the guys who make their living at this can see them as well? Why would they want to trade with the Hawks if it doesn't help their own team? Scooter may have to make some unpopular decisions.....or.....some that leave us all scratching our heads........

 

[MassHavoc]

Fire sale unlikely in Phoenix



8:57AM ET

Phoenix Coyotes

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The Phoenix Coyotes have pushed themselves into contention, which means they aren't selling off their veterans players on the trade market yet. And given that they only have six games until the trade deadline, it seems quite unlikely for a fire sale to be a viable option in two weeks.

Yahoo Sports' Harrison Mooney points out that a good portion of the Coyotes roster is headed for unrestricted free agency -- most notably Ray Whitney and Shane Doan. So for most non-contenders, this would be a perfect time to sell these assets for prospects and picks. But right now, it's unclear if the Coyotes can be a Cinderella club in the playoffs, or if they'll eventually regress to the point that they miss the playoffs.

Now, a Doan trade could return a very handsome return for the Coyotes, but that seems quite unlikely right now. More likely is a Whitney deal -- perhaps to a club like the Boston Bruins -- but he's the Coyotes' leading scorer now, and they probably won't part with him unless they are definitely out of the playoff picture in two weeks.

 

[MassHavoc]

Carlyle wants another coaching gig



8:22AM ET

Randy Carlyle | Ducks

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It's not a big secret that Randy Carlyle wants back in the game after being fired in Anaheim. But now he tells NHL.com, "Yes, that's my goal right now, to put myself in a position if there's another opportunity, hopefully someone has the same level of interest I do."

Now, it doesn't look like too many gigs will open up this summer, if any. The teams needing to make changes already have, including the Columbus Blue Jackets and Carolina Hurricanes, so there aren't any guys who are definitely on the hot seat. That said, if any jobs open up, Carlyle will be among the frontrunners. And, in fact, there was even talk that some clubs may be more comfortable firing their current coach, if they know Carlyle is available.

 

[MassHavoc]

Stewart in play at deadline?



7:41AM ET

Chris Stewart | Blues

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The St. Louis Blues got Andy McDonald back last night, and he jumped onto the second line with Patrik Berglund and Jamie Langenrbunner. And that pushed Chris Stewart to the third line, which makes us wonder whether Stewart could be a trade candidate at the upcoming deadline.

Now, this isn't the first time there's been speculation about a Stewart trade, but with McDonald back and showing that he's quite healthy, this could free up GM Doug Armstrong to make a big deal at the deadline to bring in some offensive help. A big power forward like Stewart could be the centerpiece to a blockbuster deal and, as TSN's Darren Dreger writes, "Armstrong is masterful at staying under the radar and is always a prime suspect when we start hearing the rumblings a blockbuster may be in the works."

That said, Armstrong tells NHL.com, "There's no guarantee that you bring in a player, and all of a sudden you're going to become the high-scoring Detroit Red Wings. Those players aren't out there. We need to see what these players can do when the game is on the line." So it's possible he doesn't think there's an upgrade worthy

 

[MassHavoc]

More on Ruutu's price



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Tuomo Ruutu | Hurricanes

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We've written a lot in this space about the Carolina Hurricanes' astronomical asking price on Tuomo Ruutu, and it seems to be settled that the Canes want at least a first-round pick and a key prospect in return for the veteran center. Now, the big question now is: If no one is willing to pay that much, will the Canes lower that price to make a deal or will GM Jim Rutherford prefer to re-sign Ruutu?

One interesting piece of insight comes from Bruins GM Peter Chiarelli, who tells the Toronto Sun that he thinks the talent pool in the NHL is thinning out, so teams are preferring to re-sign their own players. Now, we're guessing Chiarelli has talked to the Canes about Ruutu and perhaps even about Tim Gleason, who was recently re-signed. So perhaps he got the vibe from the Canes that they're more than happy to keep their players, unless they get a very good package in return.

 

[MassHavoc]

Hawks eyeing Roy



9:00AM ET

Derek Roy | Sabres

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The Chicago Blackhawks have been looking for a second-line center pretty much all season, and it looks like they may be zeroing in on Buffalo Sabres' center Derek Roy. The Ottawa Sun's Bruce Garrioch hears that Hawks GM Stan Bowman is eyeing Roy, whose contract lasts until 2013.

Now, Roy's $4 million cap hit may limit the moves they can make this summer, but the Hawks will likely make a big splash at this deadline to add their key pieces. They may chase a defensemen, as well, and there's been talk they could upgrade their goaltending, though it seems unlikely.