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I'm not sure I understand what you're getting at here. Are you asking for specific names, positions, what?
I'm not sure I understand what you're getting at here. Are you asking for specific names, positions, what?
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All depends what he could bring in a trade imo. I would trade him to the Yanks for a catching prospect like Montero or the other 1 and a few more top prospects
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That's what makes it make perfect sense. He's cheap so there's no money to eat in a trade and the cheap + very good option is attractive to teams who would be willing to give up something for him.
By the time this team is ready to win a World Series Marmol won't be a factor IMO. Might as well trade for some guys that will/might be.
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Exactly, so naturally it won't get done.
We're clearly not making the post season this year, or in the foreseeable future for that matter, so when the deadline comes, Hendry should be on the phone trying to get about a dozen prospects for him. As far as I'm concerned (not to get too far off topic), but everyone except Garza and Demp (to anchor the rotation), Castro, Soto, Barney, Cashner, and Baker should be put on the auction block and if any offers are made on anyone not listed, Hendry should get rid of them. Swallow the contract if need be, because it's clear that Fonzie, Ramirez, Pena, Kosuke, etc. aren't going to be the solution to the Cubs' endless problems.
Why does the rotation need an "anchor?"
Why do we need an anchor? I don't understand that? Hell, what is an anchor? A #1? Demp isn't a #1.
If we can get anything for either of them, I'd ship them out. If not, keep them. But that should pretty much go for about half the team.
Also, Po, I'm gonna have to disagree with you here. I thought I clicked the multi-quote button, but I guess I didn't, so I'll just address it. I don't see what the positive of having a really good player who is only going to be pitching like 70 innings this year is, when he should be used in tight games. We don't really get tight games anymore. If we do, we blow them. However, I see where you are coming from for the future, but (depending on the package we could get in return), I think that would definitely help us a lot more in the future. If we could get 2 top 10 specs for him, all we would need is for one of them to pan out for us to get more value. I really don't think we can end up with 2 top 10ers, but if we could get 2 top 20 specs, I definitely think that would be something I would pull the trigger on.
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I swear you do not read the entirety of my posts.
I was explaining what EYTs logic is/was.
Exactly what you just said.
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2 top 20 prospects really isn't all that much. If that is all we get, then I'd just keep Marms.
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If the package was nice I'd do it but I don't think it'd be crazy to keep him.
If JH can put together a decent team he'd instantly become more valuable to the club and would be greatly missed if he were traded in that scenario.
It all depends on what you can get for him though. I, too, think any player should be considered.
If JH can put together a decent team he'd instantly become more valuable to the club and would be greatly missed if he were traded in that scenario.
It all depends on what you can get for him though. I, too, think any player should be considered.
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I was more adding onto what I had already posted. I don't understand the whole anchor thing.
How much are you really expecting to get for a reliever?
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We don't NEED one, but why wouldn't you want a veteran on the rotation who is familiar with the proceedings of the team and a positive influence on club moral, especially now when nothing is really going right.
And no, the anchor doesn't necessarily have to be a #1, just someone who can mediate and provide help and advise younger pitchers.
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You could argue that Sean Marshall has been better for the last year and a half...just not as exciting.
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Greg Maddux. I really don't want to see Dempster on this team anymore. He is getting up there in years and as it should be, his production is starting to decline.
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Marms has been the best reliever in baseball the last year and a half, however Marshall has also been bonertastic. He is definitely in the top 5.
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I agree, he'd be a great PITCHING COACH. But he's made it clear that he has no desire to do so because he wishes to remain close to his family and not travel. But the point of an anchor is that he's an actual starter. That's sort of the whole designation, I guess.
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So since we have someone that we are pretty sure would be a capable back-up, why wouldn't we trade the other in a down year anyway...when there's going to be more teams buying than any season in recent memory...in a season in which we're clearly not going anywhere?
(btw, I'm on the fence w/ this...not sure which way to go...leaning towards dabbling him out there, tho)
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For me its because you wont get enough for him. Trade other guys. We aren't good this year but if we are next year or 2012 we would be kicking ourselves for trading him.
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Where's one of those sabre guys? How many more wins is Marmol worth than Marshall? I'm sure there's a stat for that somewhere.
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Also, I honestly think you'll see HUGE payoffs in trades this season b/c the trade market is going to be so competitive. You could have 4 teams just in the AL-C trying to improve their teams...some teams will be willing to give up major pieces of their future for a shot at this season.
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If that's the case and someone is willing to overpay for him I'm down for sure. Especially if it were an AL team.
I love Marmol but everyone has a price.