Trask in the 2nd..

[msadows]

You have not watched Alabama this year if you believe the bolded to be true.

It is true at times, but thats true for basically any QB with weapons.

Why throw a 50 yard pass when you can throw a 10 yarder and have it go 50 yards?

Mahomes does it and he's a genius.

I've always preached accuracy above all. Both Jones and Trask have it. Don't look at the talent around them, look at the throws they are making and the ball placement.

 

[dweebs19]

buddy. We’ve seen this before. All it takes is one guy to slip. Or a crazy selection nobody saw coming and were there.

I’m just saying. If the teams that need QBs take them, teams that don’t get their guy to drop might take OLine or edge guys.

If Trey Lance drops to 18 and the Bears don't take him, Pace should be fired on the spot.

 

[DammitFullerTurnUrHead!]

It is true at times, but thats true for basically any QB with weapons.

Why throw a 50 yard pass when you can throw a 10 yarder and have it go 50 yards?

Mahomes does it and he's a genius.

I've always preached accuracy above all. Both Jones and Trask have it. Don't look at the talent around them, look at the throws they are making and the ball placement.

Not to the degree of which his post implied. Smith and Waddle wouldn’t have put up the numbers they did with just any QB throwing them the ball. A lot of the plays they’ve made this year wouldn’t have been possible if it weren’t for Jones being as accurate down the field as he’s been this year. They aren’t always open when he makes those throws either. You don’t win the heisman as a WR just by making uncontested catches.

 

[Visionman]

If Trey Lance drops to 18 and the Bears don't take him, Pace should be fired on the spot.

I can see it now. Pace gives Trubisky a new contract, and then trades up for a QB in the 1st round.

You sure everyone is going to be applauding that move? It would be insane to plan to play a QB like Lance right out of the gate, so you need a starting level QB as well...

 

[dweebs19]

I can see it now. Pace gives Trubisky a new contract, and then trades up for a QB in the 1st round.

You sure everyone is going to be applauding that move? It would be insane to plan to play a QB like Lance right out of the gate, so you need a starting level QB as well...

That's his M.O. I'm actually expecting that to happen. He will sign some vet QB and then trade up for Fields/Wilson/Lance

 

[msadows]

That's his M.O. I'm actually expecting that to happen. He will sign Trubisky and the.mn trade up for Fields/Wilson/Lance

That would be honestly the best case scenario if he can get trubisky for cheap.

Not sure why people wouldn't agree with it.

Mitch is here to start the first year, maybe less. If he performs well you trade him away, if he sucks you really aren't hurt for the future.

I have no desire to see foles play another snap for the bears. I also have no desire to throw our rookie out to the wolves day 1.

 

[mattb78]

Mac Jones is a 3rd round talent. I’m not giving any Alabama QB 1st round grades. None of them get challenged.

You could be right about Jones. Tua I think broke that mold, he didn't have an awesome rookie season but an 87.1 QBR for a rookie is reasonable and although he went early in the first he definitely was a first round talent.

The concern with Jones is how he will do under pressure, he averaged about 1 sack per game, but as soon as the heat turned up Bama could just hand the ball off or go with screen passes. He never had to continue to throw under pressure like you will in the NFL. Fields struggled when that happened to him as well by the way.

With time, Jones is deadly accurate and so is Trask. Trask is a little more battled tested in terms of pocket presence because Florida didn't have the OL that Bama had. Jones has a better arm. But are smart and both aren't very mobile.

 

[mattb78]

We also have to accept the fact that Trubisky could go elsewhere. They didn't pick up his 5th year option, Nagy basically shit on him this year, the fanbase has been horrible to him... WTF would he take a team-friendly deal?

Nagy fucked us with wanting Foles, because we can't get rid of him until 2022. So he is an expensive 2nd or 3rd stringer. Fuck.

Trubisky would only come back because its a chance to start in the league.. but his agent is going to want some type of contract security.

So either we will have alot of resources tied up at the QB position or we go into the draft with just Foles and hope the guy we want falls to us.

 

[run and shoot]

I see nothing Jones & Trask could do here. They need time 4-5 secs in the pocket to be effective. Trask threw 3 picks ( 1qrt)
in that bowl game with just a little pocket pressure applied

 

[msadows]

We also have to accept the fact that Trubisky could go elsewhere. They didn't pick up his 5th year option, Nagy basically shit on him this year, the fanbase has been horrible to him... WTF would he take a team-friendly deal?

Nagy fucked us with wanting Foles, because we can't get rid of him until 2022. So he is an expensive 2nd or 3rd stringer. Fuck.

Trubisky would only come back because its a chance to start in the league.. but his agent is going to want some type of contract security.

So either we will have alot of resources tied up at the QB position or we go into the draft with just Foles and hope the guy we want falls to us.

Bingo. You answered your own question.

This might be the only spot in the NFL mitch has a chance to start next year. He isn't going to take more money to be a backup somewhere.

 

[Chris Sojka]

You have not watched Alabama this year if you believe the bolded to be true.

I have watched them. The Heisman going to the WR and not the QB proves my point.

 

[Chris Sojka]

You could be right about Jones. Tua I think broke that mold, he didn't have an awesome rookie season but an 87.1 QBR for a rookie is reasonable and although he went early in the first he definitely was a first round talent.

The concern with Jones is how he will do under pressure, he averaged about 1 sack per game, but as soon as the heat turned up Bama could just hand the ball off or go with screen passes. He never had to continue to throw under pressure like you will in the NFL. Fields struggled when that happened to him as well by the way.

With time, Jones is deadly accurate and so is Trask. Trask is a little more battled tested in terms of pocket presence because Florida didn't have the OL that Bama had. Jones has a better arm. But are smart and both aren't very mobile.

I think that’s why the QB craze is really exaggerated. Not saying they aren’t good. No noise. Defenses couldn’t prepare. It’s a different game.

if it’s risky just grab a guy who isn’t. Or trade back to the end of the round or early second. Someone else taking your risky 4th QB shouldn’t be a big deal. Considering the risk reward.

 

[DammitFullerTurnUrHead!]

I have watched them. The Heisman going to the WR and not the QB proves my point.

No it doesn’t, and you saying that just proves that you haven’t actually watched them lol

 

[Chris Sojka]

No it doesn’t.

Well ok bud. Go root for all your Bama QBs in the NFL.

 

[DammitFullerTurnUrHead!]

Well ok bud. Go root for all your Bama QBs in the NFL.

Couldn’t care less about bama. You’re just wrong and I’m calling you on it is all.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

Trask is not an NFL quarterback. He has no arm and can't move. No thanks.

Drew Brees? I'm definitely not saying Trask is him, but brees was short, immobile and didn't have a big arm

 

[msadows]

Drew Brees? I'm definitely not saying Trask is him, but brees was short, immobile and didn't have a big arm

Brady didn't have a big arm either coming out. He developed more zip the longer he was in the league(Yes, arm strength is something you can work on). He was a terrible athlete too.

Joe Montana had a relatively weak arm compared to his peers.

Alex Smith has made himself a decent career with a weak arm.

Arguably the most talented qb in nfl history, Peyton Manning, was a terrible athlete and had a mediocre arm.

Chad Pennington, arguably one of the weakest arms for a first round qb ever, also looked great in the NFL before he became made of glass.

Deshaun Watson is lighting it up right now and he had one of the lowest recorded throw velocities of a first round QB in recent memory.

What did all those dudes have in common? Accuracy.

It's the most important trait for a QB. You can survive without a gun, you can't survive in this league without accuracy. Kyle Boller showed us all that.

Not saying Jones/Trask will be good, but they have the accuracy thing down.

 

[hyatt151]

Bingo. You answered your own question.

This might be the only spot in the NFL mitch has a chance to start next year. He isn't going to take more money to be a backup somewhere.

How the hell do you know that?

 

[Bearly]

Im going to say this and you and others will think im nuts but im telling you the guy to take is Ridder from Cincinnati. Ive seen him in a few games and recently watched some videos and read some scouting on him and i think hes a guy that could be steal. He could be a Colin Kaepernick type QB if you give him time to develop. He seemed a bit held back by the offense he was in which was an RPO but he seemed to be able to make all the throws but didnt get enough reps in games to sharpen his accuracy. Hes got a cannon but also makes some really nice touch throws and ive seen him hit some tight windows with some zip. Hes athletic as hell, tall and a little thin but nothing concerning. Im telling you this is the guy. I would not be surprised if as the draft draws near and we get through the combine his stock rises, possibly into the first which could be the Bears.

Been about him for while. He's the Prescott of this draft.

 

[Bearly]

Brady didn't have a big arm either coming out. He developed more zip the longer he was in the league(Yes, arm strength is something you can work on). He was a terrible athlete too.

Joe Montana had a relatively weak arm compared to his peers.

Alex Smith has made himself a decent career with a weak arm.

Arguably the most talented qb in nfl history, Peyton Manning, was a terrible athlete and had a mediocre arm.

Chad Pennington, arguably one of the weakest arms for a first round qb ever, also looked great in the NFL before he became made of glass.

Deshaun Watson is lighting it up right now and he had one of the lowest recorded throw velocities of a first round QB in recent memory.

What did all those dudes have in common? Accuracy.

It's the most important trait for a QB. You can survive without a gun, you can't survive in this league without accuracy. Kyle Boller showed us all that.

Not saying Jones/Trask will be good, but they have the accuracy thing down.

Reading Ds is the most important trait, followed by accuracy, enough velocity to throw an out and mobility. If Foles had a quick release with velocity, he'd be fine. Different mixes offer different levels of success but if you don't want Ds to catch up to your style or defend you as well, that's how it stands for me.