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Exactly this for me as well.

At least you call it what it is, a drug. It is not a vaccine. At least, not according to the current definition of vaccines in medical dictionaries. It is mRNA gene modification and still in experimental stage, hence the need for "emergency use" and zero liability for its makers. It has already killed and harmed many in the short run as the spike protein causes vascular damage that can induce strokes, heart attacks, migraines, blood clots, etc.This harm caused by the spike protein was shown months ago, in a study done by The Salk Institute.

All seem oblivious as to what damage can be caused in the long run though. It will cause the body's immune system to be overwhelmed when you get a virus. Instead of your immune system operating as it was safely meant to, 1 part at a time, all parts of the body will produce antigenic substances at the same time, causing the immune system to be overwhelmed and weakened until it can't fight off anything anymore.
You seem like the perfect candidate to be on your death bed crying to the nurse that you now want the vaccine and the nusre telling you you’re a moron, it’s to late. Enjoy! And Godspeed
 

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You seem like the perfect candidate to be on your death bed crying to the nurse that you now want the vaccine and the nusre telling you you’re a moron, it’s to late. Enjoy! And Godspeed
If I had a dollar for every time I was around somebody who tested positive for covid, I'd be richer than Bill Gates.
 

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It also appears those who were previously infected have substantially many times more immunity over those with the Pfizer vaccine:
Yet accepting and using your own cited source, it points out over 835,000 recovered infections (with over 6,000 deaths ) vs 3000 vaccinated infections (with near or possibly 0 deaths).

So your point is playing Russain roulette with a loaded .45 with one live round is better than playing with a nerf gun with 2 foam darts?

Cool.
 
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Yet accepting and using your own cited source, it points out over 835,000 recovered infections (with over 6,000 deaths ) vs 3000 vaccinated infections (with near or possibly 0 deaths).

So your point is playing Russain roulette with a loaded .45 with one live round is better than playing with a nerf gun with 2 foam darts.

Cool.
The old catching measles to prevent measles argument.
 

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Exactly this for me as well.

At least you call it what it is, a drug. It is not a vaccine. At least, not according to the current definition of vaccines in medical dictionaries. It is mRNA gene modification and still in experimental stage, hence the need for "emergency use" and zero liability for its makers. It has already killed and harmed many in the short run as the spike protein causes vascular damage that can induce strokes, heart attacks, migraines, blood clots, etc.This harm caused by the spike protein was shown months ago, in a study done by The Salk Institute.

All seem oblivious as to what damage can be caused in the long run though. It will cause the body's immune system to be overwhelmed when you get a virus. Instead of your immune system operating as it was safely meant to, 1 part at a time, all parts of the body will produce antigenic substances at the same time, causing the immune system to be overwhelmed and weakened until it can't fight off anything anymore.
Wrong again: LOL at Spartan getting his "news" from Maga Anti-vax facebook posts

The claim was shared here by a New Zealand-based Facebook page. It has been shared more than 100 times.


The misleading posts link to this media release about a study by researchers at the Salk Institute, a US-based nonprofit research foundation.

Spike proteins


The misleading posts misrepresent the implications of the study for the safety of Covid-19 vaccines.


The Salk Institute's study concluded that Covid-19 vaccines are an effective and safe way to protect people from the virus.


The study’s last sentence says that when someone receives a Covid-19 vaccine, it “not only protects the host from SARS-CoV-2 but also inhibits [spike protein] imposed endothelial injury”.


A Salk Institute spokesperson told AFP the spike proteins in Covid-19 vaccines are safe because they only remain in a person's arm muscle for a short period.


"The spike protein in the coronavirus behaves differently from the spike protein in vaccines”, the spokesperson said.
 

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I love how, at the same time, the vaccine won't work at all in three months and will simultaneously murder everyone who takes it when they get a virus at any point in the future.

These tards sure can tard.
Wait ....what....I was told to shut up, stop asking questions, stop killing people and just get jabbed.
You were told that you were unable to read, which was accurate, and that you had no understanding of statistics, which is again proving true with this latest line of idiocy.
 

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The old catching measles to prevent measles argument.
I must admit, it is being reported not a single one ( 0.000%) of the 626,000 Americans dead from COVID-19 has been reported to have caught it again.
 

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I must admit, it is being reported not a single one ( 0.000%) of the 626,000 Americans dead from COVID-19 has been reported to have caught it again.
But have they been tested?
 
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Exactly this for me as well.

At least you call it what it is, a drug. It is not a vaccine. At least, not according to the current definition of vaccines in medical dictionaries. It is mRNA gene modification and still in experimental stage, hence the need for "emergency use" and zero liability for its makers. It has already killed and harmed many in the short run as the spike protein causes vascular damage that can induce strokes, heart attacks, migraines, blood clots, etc.This harm caused by the spike protein was shown months ago, in a study done by The Salk Institute.

All seem oblivious as to what damage can be caused in the long run though. It will cause the body's immune system to be overwhelmed when you get a virus. Instead of your immune system operating as it was safely meant to, 1 part at a time, all parts of the body will produce antigenic substances at the same time, causing the immune system to be overwhelmed and weakened until it can't fight off anything anymore.

@Scoot26 more misinformation
 

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If I had a dollar for every time I was around somebody who tested positive for covid, I'd be richer than Bill Gates.
Can I take a wild guess and say you’ve never been tested?
 

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The Media: What is a Sweden?

One country not making much news is Sweden.

Sweden, of course, was maligned in 2020 for foregoing a strict lockdown. The Guardian called its approach “a catastrophe” in the making, while CBS News said Sweden had become “an example of how not to handle COVID-19.”

Despite these criticisms, Sweden’s laissez-faire approach to the pandemic continues today. In contrast to its European neighbors, Sweden is welcoming tourists. Businesses and schools are open with almost no restrictions. And as far as masks are concerned, not only is there no mandate in place, Swedish health officials are not even recommending them.

What are the results of Sweden’s much-derided laissez-faire policy? Data show the 7-day rolling average for COVID deaths yesterday was zero (see below). As in nada. And it’s been at zero for about a week now.

Daily COVID Deaths in Sweden Hit Zero, as Other Nations Brace for More Lockdowns | Jon Miltimore
 

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The Media: What is a Sweden?
Vs Australia that went strong on tracing and lockdowns when needed.
It’s population is less than 40% of Australia. But, cases: Sw 1 million +, AU 32,000 +; Deaths: Sw 14,615, AU 916. That’s 1,438 deaths per million of population in Sweden and 35 per mil in AU. plus, AU has had months of zero death av, until Delta and, Delta is only just getting started in Sweden. What might save Sweden from a big death rate may be vaccinations and - a lot of their vulnerable may already have had the virus.

Sweden is now also 60% vaccinated and they are still sticking out their arms. Higher than the USA right now with a population that is considerate of these risks to others. They are on schedule to be at 70% vaccinated in a month because they discovered their natural herd immunity wasn't working on it's own. Funny how you didn't mention that. They chose to do this differently but the general populous have always been more conscientious that the objectors in the USA. It's never been do nothing for them as they tended to follow the recommendations of the government.

Here's their current guideline which are are being followed withoput complaint:

If you travel a long way and socialise with others during the trip or at your destination, you should do so in a way that minimises the risk of spreading infection. This includes keeping your distance, self-isolating if you experience symptoms, and not socialising indoors with other people for a long time.

You should plan ahead so that if you develop symptoms, you are able to self-isolate at your destination and then travel home in a way that minimises the risk of spreading infection.

If you develop COVID-19 symptoms at your destination, you should get tested and stay indoors as secluded as you can or travel home in a safe manner to reduce the risk of spreading infection.

If you are travelling abroad, you should be especially careful and find out what applies when you return to Sweden.


Going to events or restaurants

As of 1 July, new regulations apply to businesses on how many participants or guests can be received, for example, at a restaurant, concert or sports event. The number of permitted people depends on whether it is an outdoor or indoor venue and whether there are designated seats or not. At restaurants, all guests must be seated and eating and drinking. Businesses also have to impose measures to ensure visitors and guests are sufficiently spaced out and they are required to provide information on infection control measures.

It is important to remember that guidelines and recommendations concerning everyone's responsibility to avoid infection also apply to you as a visitor or guest and you must comply with the organiser's or business's instructions.


Shopping

The recommendation to shop alone has been removed but it is still essential that people in shops, shopping centres or other public environments avoid crowding and keep a proper distance as far as possible. The purpose of the rules for businesses is to make it easier for people to keep their distance from others and to avoid crowding.

If you are planning a private gathering

Avoid larger parties or other private gatherings with many new acquaintances, especially indoors. Plan the gathering so people can keep their distance and preferably meet up outdoors. Special consideration must be shown to people who belong to at-risk groups.

It is permitted for property-owners to rent out premises for a private gathering, such as a party, for up to 50 people. However, visitors must still follow the general guidelines and recommendations, such as keeping their distance and staying at home if they have any symptoms.


For those who have been vaccinated

If you are fully vaccinated or been given one dose at least three weeks ago, you are significantly less likely to be infected and suffer from serious illness. The risk of infecting others is therefore also lower, but it is not zero. Therefore, you should continue to follow the general recommendations in society and take precautions when you socialise in contexts where you make new contacts, especially if they have not been vaccinated or if they belong to an at-risk group.

I'm very happy for Sweden but your type of post has happened in the past before the other shoe hit the floor.
Lets hope Delta doesn't hit them as hard as elsewhere and their higher compliance of contentiousness proves successful. I think they will fare better than we are right now. Their attempt at herd immunity along with great shot compliance for those not previously infected may help them here but it was at a cost. In this country, we've stopped getting the shot and in much of the country, also stopped treating this as a threat, feeding the Bear.
 
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Vs Australia that went strong on tracing and lockdowns when needed.
It’s population is less than 40% of Australia. But, cases: Sw 1 million +, AU 32,000 +; Deaths: Sw 14,615, AU 916. That’s 1,438 deaths per million of population in Sweden and 35 per mil in AU. plus, AU has had months of zero death av, until Delta and, Delta is only just getting started in Sweden. What might save Sweden from a big death rate may be vaccinations and - a lot of their vulnerable may already have had the virus.

Sweden is now also 60% vaccinated. Higher than the USA with a population that is considerate of these risks to others. They chose to do this differently but the general populous have always been more conscientious that the objectors in the USA. It's never been do nothing for them as they tended to follow the recommendations of the government.

Here's their current guideline which are are being followed withoput complaint:

If you travel a long way and socialise with others during the trip or at your destination, you should do so in a way that minimises the risk of spreading infection. This includes keeping your distance, self-isolating if you experience symptoms, and not socialising indoors with other people for a long time.

You should plan ahead so that if you develop symptoms, you are able to self-isolate at your destination and then travel home in a way that minimises the risk of spreading infection.

If you develop COVID-19 symptoms at your destination, you should get tested and stay indoors as secluded as you can or travel home in a safe manner to reduce the risk of spreading infection.

If you are travelling abroad, you should be especially careful and find out what applies when you return to Sweden.


Going to events or restaurants

As of 1 July, new regulations apply to businesses on how many participants or guests can be received, for example, at a restaurant, concert or sports event. The number of permitted people depends on whether it is an outdoor or indoor venue and whether there are designated seats or not. At restaurants, all guests must be seated and eating and drinking. Businesses also have to impose measures to ensure visitors and guests are sufficiently spaced out and they are required to provide information on infection control measures.

It is important to remember that guidelines and recommendations concerning everyone's responsibility to avoid infection also apply to you as a visitor or guest and you must comply with the organiser's or business's instructions.


Shopping

The recommendation to shop alone has been removed but it is still essential that people in shops, shopping centres or other public environments avoid crowding and keep a proper distance as far as possible. The purpose of the rules for businesses is to make it easier for people to keep their distance from others and to avoid crowding.

If you are planning a private gathering

Avoid larger parties or other private gatherings with many new acquaintances, especially indoors. Plan the gathering so people can keep their distance and preferably meet up outdoors. Special consideration must be shown to people who belong to at-risk groups.

It is permitted for property-owners to rent out premises for a private gathering, such as a party, for up to 50 people. However, visitors must still follow the general guidelines and recommendations, such as keeping their distance and staying at home if they have any symptoms.


For those who have been vaccinated

If you are fully vaccinated or been given one dose at least three weeks ago, you are significantly less likely to be infected and suffer from serious illness. The risk of infecting others is therefore also lower, but it is not zero. Therefore, you should continue to follow the general recommendations in society and take precautions when you socialise in contexts where you make new contacts, especially if they have not been vaccinated or if they belong to an at-risk group.

I'm very happy for Sweden but your type of post has happened in the past before the other shoe hit the floor.
Lets hope Delta doesn't hit them as hard as elsewhere and their higher compliance of contentiousness proves successful. Their attempt at herd immunity may help them here but it was at a cost. In this country, we've stopped getting the shot and in much of the country, also stopped treating this as a threat, feeding the Bear.
Are you comparing Sweden and the U.S. to an island country that can 100% seal its borders?
 

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