Updates to the Kane situation

[DMelt36]

This chick just did a real disservice to real victims of rape.

For the 2348950734987309867098367th fucking time, you still have no idea if she was a real victim of rape or not. And you never will.

 

[Ares]

And see this is why you wait and let the process play out.... and why none of the details should have been publicized.

Kane was thought of as a rapist in the court of public opinion for 2 months.... people talked about fucking trading him.... holding him out of TC and/or games.... people talked about the Hawks suspending him on their own.... all for some BS spun up by this girl.

Kane will forever be thought of as a rapist or a possible rapist by people.... not by his fans, but now rivals can throw that shit at him all for some BS.

I am all for due process.... this girl deserved her legal rights..... Kane deserved his legal rights..... no one should have dragged either of them through the fucking mud until they at least decided whether or not to charge Kane.

 

[DMelt36]

And see this is why you wait and let the process play out.... and why none of the details should have been publicized.

Kane was thought of as a rapist in the court of public opinion for 2 months.... people talked about fucking trading him.... holding him out of TC and/or games.... people talked about the Hawks suspending him on their own.... all for some BS spun up by this girl.

Kane will forever be thought of as a rapist or a possible rapist by people.... not by his fans, but now rivals can throw that shit at him all for some BS.

I am all for due process.... this girl deserved her legal rights..... Kane deserved his legal rights..... no one should have dragged either of them through the fucking mud until they at least decided whether or not to charge Kane.

You're right, Ares. In an ideal world the process would play out and people wouldn't rush to judgment on either side. But we don't live anywhere near an ideal world. For the last 3 months, I didn't learn a lot about this case but I sure as **** learned a lot about how people on this board, on social media, and in my personal life view rape and rape victims and the culture surrounding all of it (I refrain from using the term rape culture because that just sets off everyone). Basically it just gave people a chance to express their viewpoints using this case as the outlet.

And we still won't know if Kane was guilty or innocent. So I'm not going to sit here and tell you what to think of Kane. Most of us are adults here and I think you should be allowed to form that opinion by yourself.

But what I can tell you is what I think of Kane, and it's that he's embodies every negative stereotype you've ever heard of the spoiled, rich, elitist, upper-class mid/late-20s bro. He's the reason the word ****** bag exists. This opinion has developed from Kane's antics over the years as well as from a surprising amount of first-hand accounts about Kane that I've heard. I won't label him a rapist. I won't advocate that the Hawks trade him. But I couldn't give less of a **** about that prick.

 

[dbldrew]

For the 2348950734987309867098367th fucking time, you still have no idea if she was a real victim of rape or not. And you never will.

the DNA kind of proves she was not raped by kane so not sure what your taking about..

 

[ClydeLee]

the DNA kind of proves she was not raped by kane so not sure what your taking about..

There is so much wrong with that claim.

 

[Samurai]

I don't think Kane gains anything going back at the alleged victim here but I'd really love to see him drag some of the media out into the light and make them answer for it some how. I don't know that he has any legal backing for it though? I believe libel or slander or whatever the **** it is, is just as hard to prosecute as rape?

The young lady in question would only be open to a civil libel/slander suit if she in fact recants all her accusations, and states that she made them up, or is proven to have lied. I don't see the former happening...the latter is a minor possibility. By declining to proceed in cooperating in the criminal case, she will now be completely gagged by her lawyers if she still wants to pursue a civil case. To be honest, I don't think she will.

If you are referring to the media solely, that's an even tougher nut to crack...but I would love to see that happen. Sadly, media have more lawyers and money than Kaner.

 

[Spunky Porkstacker]

And see this is why you wait and let the process play out.... and why none of the details should have been publicized.


Kane was thought of as a rapist in the court of public opinion for 2 months.... people talked about fucking trading him.... holding him out of TC and/or games.... people talked about the Hawks suspending him on their own.... all for some BS spun up by this girl.

Kane will forever be thought of as a rapist or a possible rapist by people.... not by his fans, but now rivals can throw that shit at him all for some BS.

I am all for due process.... this girl deserved her legal rights..... Kane deserved his legal rights..... no one should have dragged either of them through the fucking mud until they at least decided whether or not to charge Kane.

This

 

[LordKOTL]

the DNA kind of proves she was not raped by kane so not sure what your taking about..

The key is "By Kane".

She could have still been raped. Hell, she could have been raped, and when her family found out that she was at Patrick Kane's house they tried to use her as a meal ticket.

Or should could have made the whole thing up.

The fact is--all we know is that there is no Patrick Kane DNA below her waist.

I'll reserve judgment until/if we learn more.

 

[dbldrew]

There is so much wrong with that claim.

why? Sperm from 2 men was found inside of her and neither was Kanes.. So how do you spin it that Kane was the one who raped her?

 

[dbldrew]

The key is "By Kane".

She could have still been raped. Hell, she could have been raped, and when her family found out that she was at Patrick Kane's house they tried to use her as a meal ticket.

Or should could have made the whole thing up.

The fact is--all we know is that there is no Patrick Kane DNA below her waist.

I'll reserve judgment until/if we learn more.

then tough shit for her. You try to put an innocent man behind bars then I could care less if she got raped or not.. I really dont care what happens to scum bag criminals..

If she was raped then she should of told the truth and helped put a rapist behind bars.. Instead she became a criminal.. so who cares at that point.

 

[ClydeLee]

why? Sperm from 2 men was found inside of her and neither was Kanes.. So how do you spin it that Kane was the one who raped her?

There isn't always going to be sperm on a person in a rape case

 

[bamainatlanta]

For the 2348950734987309867098367th fucking time, you still have no idea if she was a real victim of rape or not. And you never will.

Cool story bro

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

then tough shit for her. You try to put an innocent man behind bars then I could care less if she got raped or not.. I really dont care what happens to scum bag criminals..

If she was raped then she should of told the truth and helped put a rapist behind bars.. Instead she became a criminal.. so who cares at that point.

Just....






Wow.......

 

[Bearin' Down]

why? Sperm from 2 men was found inside of her and neither was Kanes.. So how do you spin it that Kane was the one who raped her?

I'm guessing you've never heard of a condom

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

I'm guessing you've never heard of a condom

I wish his parents had heard of them.

 

[Bearin' Down]

then tough shit for her. You try to put an innocent man behind bars then I could care less if she got raped or not.. I really dont care what happens to scum bag criminals..

If she was raped then she should of told the truth and helped put a rapist behind bars.. Instead she became a criminal.. so who cares at that point.

So, if someone commits a crime who cares if another crime was perpetrated against them? So, if I'm following your "logic" correctly, if you speed I should be able to murder you?

 

[dbldrew]

There isn't always going to be sperm on a person in a rape case

Yep maybe kane overpowered her and called a quick time out to put on a condom.. OR maybe Kane was already wearing a condom? and then what? jammed 2 dudes sperm in there as well?

Logic.. try using it

 

[bamainatlanta]

I'm guessing you've never heard of a condom

DNA still gets transferred from skin to skin contact, from sweat and from hair follicles. Condom does little to prevent DNA transfer, unless of course you are referring to semen

 

[Ares]

You're right, Ares. In an ideal world the process would play out and people wouldn't rush to judgment on either side. But we don't live anywhere near an ideal world. For the last 3 months, I didn't learn a lot about this case but I sure as **** learned a lot about how people on this board, on social media, and in my personal life view rape and rape victims and the culture surrounding all of it (I refrain from using the term rape culture because that just sets off everyone). Basically it just gave people a chance to express their viewpoints using this case as the outlet.

And we still won't know if Kane was guilty or innocent. So I'm not going to sit here and tell you what to think of Kane. Most of us are adults here and I think you should be allowed to form that opinion by yourself.

But what I can tell you is what I think of Kane, and it's that he's embodies every negative stereotype you've ever heard of the spoiled, rich, elitist, upper-class mid/late-20s bro. He's the reason the word ****** bag exists. This opinion has developed from Kane's antics over the years as well as from a surprising amount of first-hand accounts about Kane that I've heard. I won't label him a rapist. I won't advocate that the Hawks trade him. But I couldn't give less of a **** about that prick.

Kane might be douchey, but he still doesn't deserve to be dragged through the mud and thought of as a rapist without any evidence of him actually being a rapist.

I am not holding him up as person of the year.... but he didn't deserve this.

Think about if this was done to you DMelt.... and assume your own innocence.... you are not even a big name and would not get the media coverage, but imagine a girl accused you of rape and you were innocent. It is publicized that DMelt is being investigated for rape. Your mom hears that, your Dad hears that, everyone who knows you hears that you are being investigated for rape. Everyone you work with knows you are being investigated for rape.

You are innocent DMelt.... yet they still drag you through the mud.... they hurt your family.... they hurt the image people have of you in every facet of your life.

Yeah think of it like this and tell me you don't feel it is wrong.

 

[dbldrew]

So, if someone commits a crime who cares if another crime was perpetrated against them? So, if I'm following your "logic" correctly, if you speed I should be able to murder you?

Dont be an idiot