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Then have a good time.
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Then have a good time.
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Patrick Kane subject of police probe...
Doesn't answer the question.
But the real answer is you would be freaking the **** out on the guy despite your (hypothetical) daughter being the deceptive one just like the rest of us would be.
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Doesn't answer the question.
But the real answer is you would be freaking the **** out on the guy despite your (hypothetical) daughter being the deceptive one just like the rest of us would be.
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No, if he had sex with her with the intent to have sex with her, then the standard is met, even if she lied about get age because it wouldn't be reasonable to just believe her. People lie all the time.
But if prior to sex, he relied on the bars determination and his own reasonable assessment of her id, then things would change. Yes he'd still meet the elements for statutory rape. Just as a person who kills another in self defense would meet the elements for murder. However, his mistake of fact was reasonable and supported. The mistake of fact being either her age or identity or both, depending on the id.
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Or maybe I'd teach my daughter that with freedom comes responsibility, and you are responsible for your actions. Would I high five the guy and ask how she was? No, but I also wouldn't hunt him down and prosecute him, especially if she had a fake ID and he had no way of knowing.
I'd be more upset at my daughter getting drunk and looking for dick in a local bar.
If he forced himself on her, different story. He'd be bleeding out of a large exit wound in the back of his head.
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So now you're OK with murder, too?
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Patrick Kane subject of police probe...
So you'd have no problem with the guy despite the fact that he committed statutory rape? Let's not forget that if the rumor is true, the age difference (say she's 16) would be 10 years since Kane is 26.
The reason for statutory rape is because the female is not of the mental maturity to make that decision or give that consent. If the girl lied about her age to sleep with an older man, then clearly she is not mentally mature.
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So you'd have no problem with the guy despite the fact that he committed statutory rape? Let's not forget that if the rumor is true, the age difference (say she's 16) would be 10 years since Kane is 26.
The reason for statutory rape is because the female is not of the mental maturity to make that decision or give that consent. If the girl lied about her age to sleep with an older man, then clearly she is not mentally mature.
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I didn't say I'd have no problem with the guy, stop arguing disingenuously. I'd have the bigger problem with her.
Sorry, despite it being the new national past time, I'm not a grievance collector or professional victim.
There's also a difference between knowingly and unknowingly committing statutory rape, clearly. That's what the last several pages have been about.
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If my daughter misled a guy in his 20s and looked like she was above 17, I wouldn't be in favor of prosecuting someone for a sex crime over a consensual act.
That is correct.
I might have an issue with it, and I might be upset and angry about the situation, but no way would I want to destroy some dude's life over my daughter lying and engage in sex with an older man.
Is this that radical of an idea really?
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I agree but what if your daughter did it consensually, but bc she's 16 she lives at home and you're wondering why she didn't return last night. As opposed to admitting all that, she says she went to a bar with friends and was roofied. What is your course of action then?
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You do realize that if you are ever a suspect in a murder the police are going to find this and use it against you, right? Innocent or not.
You're even dumber than I thought.
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Found this online:
Mistake of age
Defendants accused of statutory rape often claim that they had no reason to know that their partner was underage. They may argue that the victim herself represented that she was older than she was, and that a reasonable person would have believed her. Mistake of age isnota defense in New York.
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Mistake of age
Defendants accused of statutory rape often claim that they had no reason to know that their partner was underage. They may argue that the victim herself represented that she was older than she was, and that a reasonable person would have believed her. Mistake of age isnota defense in New York.
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If it's not a defense..... wtf is a defense for statutory rape?
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Assuming this is not a statutory case, you gotta draw up a Love Contract. For an example of this, watch the beginning of the "I'm Rick James, *****." episode.
Also, a potential statutory situation is just one reason I preferred to go after Milfs, cougars, and grannies before I met the wife (who is older than me).
Also, a potential statutory situation is just one reason I preferred to go after Milfs, cougars, and grannies before I met the wife (who is older than me).
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Um, don't have sexual relations with a girl who's not of legal consent??
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Interesting, I was wrong. It is a strict liability crime in New York. To me, that isn't justice.
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Sure, agreed.... but there are girls under 18 who can easily look like they are in their 20s.... they can also have fake IDs that say as much.
Assuming you **** a girl who claims to be 22 but turns out to be 16.... what legal defense do you have, anywhere?
The answer appears to be, none.... that is kinda crazy, no?
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