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Gross.
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Sunbiz was actually correct. You need to look up the modern definition of sexual assault. But why would you ever concede to agreed upon facts when you have made up your own in your own head?
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Hope all the "Kane is done in Chicago" hyperbole can calm down now that the most realistic scenario has played itself out. The odds of Kane even missing a game in a he said she said case were always incredibly low. Let alone being cut or traded. The only way he would be out of Chicago was if he was found guilty, in which case he'd never play hockey again for anyone.
Given the fact that our legal system requires those making accusations to prove them, it was almost an impossibility that he would ever be found guilty in a case like this. So it makes sense for all involved to settle and move on to get it out of the press. She got her money. He gets to play without this shadow following him. A few people that dug in early and decided to use this case as a platform for their own issues and agenda will never let it rest, but like Kobe and Big Ben, for the vast vast majority life will go on as normal and a year from now this will be a trivia question. Quietly the sponsors will return, Kane will receive an extended standing ovation the first time he takes the ice, and after the initial press "do you think kane is a rapist" "no i do not" type questions for his team mates, once the season starts everyone will settle into the usual routine and this will become a memory.
Given the fact that our legal system requires those making accusations to prove them, it was almost an impossibility that he would ever be found guilty in a case like this. So it makes sense for all involved to settle and move on to get it out of the press. She got her money. He gets to play without this shadow following him. A few people that dug in early and decided to use this case as a platform for their own issues and agenda will never let it rest, but like Kobe and Big Ben, for the vast vast majority life will go on as normal and a year from now this will be a trivia question. Quietly the sponsors will return, Kane will receive an extended standing ovation the first time he takes the ice, and after the initial press "do you think kane is a rapist" "no i do not" type questions for his team mates, once the season starts everyone will settle into the usual routine and this will become a memory.
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Um the law recognizes the difference between certain types of sexual assault and forcible rape.
For instance if you grab someone's ass, you won't get the same punishment as if you forcibly penetrate them. Not that it matters in this case because all the reporting was that the allegation was forcible rape.
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Yeah, I'm with Joker here: I thought there was a difference between sexual assault and rape in legislative terms. A rape is a sexual assault but a sexual assault is not necessarily a rape.
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It varies state by state! Many states use sexual assault as an umbrella term for other other crimes including rape! I dont know what the state laws are in NewYork state so i digress but you guys are incorrect in your generalizations.
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http://kuklaskorner.com/hockey/comm...n-agent-for-patrick-kane-talks-with-sportsnet
Pat Brisson speaks. Nothing groundbreaking here but figured I would post it since it is clearly relevant.
Pat Brisson speaks. Nothing groundbreaking here but figured I would post it since it is clearly relevant.
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OK, but that doesn't mean SA == rape, as Sunbiz1 said. Here is the complete list of sexual offenses in NY state.
https://www.sarahlawrence.edu/offices-services/security/assault/Penal_Law.html
BTW, their new campus "enough is enough" law is completely insane.
http://www.syracuse.com/state/index...changes_the_rules_of_the_college_hook-up.html
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That's a lot more affirmative statement than what Wirtz said a few weeks ago.
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WGZR is reporting that the grand jury case has been pushed back a few weeks and NO settlement talks have taken place...
http://www.wgrz.com/story/news/2015/09/08/patrick-kane-grand-jury-rape-investigation/71891798/
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http://www.wgrz.com/story/news/2015/09/08/patrick-kane-grand-jury-rape-investigation/71891798/
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Says it "could last a few weeks", but also that it could coincide with Kane reporting to camp, which is in ten days.
Anyway, wonder what the delay is.
Anyway, wonder what the delay is.
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Could be trying to gain more evidence/build a better case.
Just goes to show yet again that the media doesn't know shit.
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Just giving any and all updates....
Asswipe....
Ha!
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Or they could be shitting a brick after the grand jury called Kane's people in to give their side of the story. Usually, the prosecution presents a very one-sided argument to the grand jury to get an indictment. It's almost a formality.
And this was supposed to be a "slam dunk".
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The next time I take anything Giangreco says for a fact, will be the first time.
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He was reporting what was leaked to him. Same sources Timpartial Graham was using when he reported Kane would turn himself in the first day.
Maybe they were trying to facilitate a settlement before testifying in front of grand jury and blinked when Kane's side did not. Longer this goes on, the less likely it is any charges will result.
Maybe they were trying to facilitate a settlement before testifying in front of grand jury and blinked when Kane's side did not. Longer this goes on, the less likely it is any charges will result.
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have you ever considered being a rape journalist?
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