Updates to the Kane situation

[DMelt36]

Whole thing is a circus.

This.

 

[Joker85]

You seem to have some problem dissociating separate claims... claims of presumed conspiracy and a claim of Kane being intentionally behind the process of it are separate claims.

Also it doesn't negate that tampering could be an action of one person and the attorney didn't proclaim it was certainly an action of multiple people. It wouldn't be a conspiracy in that case if that was his conclusions.

No I just have the ability to use reason. The only thing more unlikely than Kane masterminding an infiltration of both the PD and DNA lab to alter evidence would be people in both those agencies taking it upon themselves to spontaneously do it.

 

[DMelt36]

"Most crimes" are not rapes. DNA is crucial to a rape case. Embezzlement? Not so much. Tax evasion? Not so much. She has been on the Kane lynch mob since day one. Indeed as we speak shes having a meltdown on twitter as people call her out for trying to pretend the DNA evidence exonerating Kane is no big deal.

A person with a legal background in these types of cases explaining things =/= being on the Kane lynch mob


You guys keep concocting your conspiracy theories. It's a nice day here. I'm gonna go outside for a while.

 

[italianbeef]

A person with a legal background in these types of cases explaining things =/= being on the Kane lynch mob


You guys keep concocting your conspiracy theories. It's a nice day here. I'm gonna go outside for a while.

She claims she was raped and was afraid to come forward. She's a crusader.

Stop being obtuse.

 

[Raskolnikov]

Lets go back and rehash probabilities of the accuser being after something other than truth and justice.

 

[Joker85]

She claims she was raped and was afraid to come forward. She's a crusader.

Stop being obtuse.

It's his schtick.

A person claiming DNA is not crucial to a rape case, including DNA evidence exonerating the accused is a joke. And, of course, she only conveniently started "explaining" how DNA doesn't matter in rape cases once it came out that Kane's DNA was not found in her, but two other men's was. Funny how that works.

 

[PatrickShart]

Tampering evidence can hurt EITHER side...not just hers.

Someone tampering it could have tried to implicate Kane after finding out he is innocent.

 

[ClydeLee]

No I just have the ability to use reason. The only thing more unlikely than Kane masterminding an infiltration of both the PD and DNA lab to alter evidence would be people in both those agencies taking it upon themselves to spontaneously do it.

It seems like you know how to make assumptions more than reason.

Sure there is more unlikely things, SO what? There is a NUMEROUS amount of things that are less unlikely than Kane masterminding a plot. That's why there isn't people elsewhere seemingly even bringing up such an outlandish claim as if that was implied.

That idea has to indicate something making Kane intentionally acting or at least consciously aware of the situation. There is no sensible conclusion to that. Things that are far more likely if there was the conspiracy action are that people in his camp acted out in that manner. People seem to be coming with a feeling of that, but that is in no way indication that Kane has any awareness of that happening. Using reason you can see plenty of differences in what one statement vs another is.

 

[PatrickShart]

I would also think, if someone on Team Kane found ANY sort of evidence, and he was "guilty" - they would destroy any evidence...not place it on the accusers "doorstep"

But funny....the lawyer someone says it was anonymously placed on their doorstep....so they can claim that evidence was tampered with that hurts his client. (After the DNA tests came back negative)

 

[Samurai]

I say the bag was torn, so they placed the kit in a new one, and tossed the bag. Bluto & D-Day found it in the dumpster whilst looking for mid-term test carbons. They then delivered to the address on the label.

 

[italianbeef]

 

[italianbeef]

Tampering evidence can hurt EITHER side...not just hers.

Someone tampering it could have tried to implicate Kane after finding out he is innocent.

And there's not even proof that evidence was tampered with. Just the bag, that held the sealed box, that held the evidence.

Also, wouldn't the lab have this all documented before then sent back to the DA?

And why hasn't the DA spoken? The Hamburg Police have, pretty much telling Slip and Fall to pound it sideways.

 

[Shantz My Pants]

This case has been filled with false reporting and assumptions that nothing is absolute until the DA or police department says it is.

All I see from the presser today is the bag that the rape kit was in, that contains personal and confidential matter at this time, that needs to be tracked for its whereabouts at all time, some how just shows up at the accusers front door step and some of you don't see anything wrong with that. I in no way am blaming either side of this, but wondering how the **** the police who've kept this case so secretive, so much so that there is a gag order in place, can suddenly "lose" a piece of potential evidence like that.

To be honest, her lawyer has every right to wonder about the process if something like this happened. I mean there's a fucking protocol in place so it doesn't just show up somewhere randomly.


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[Bigfoot]

Kane csn thank me later. As for Hawks fans your welcome, I just saved the season. Good thing about a bigfoot is invisibility where I can go tamper with evidence and nobody knows who did it. Then if I'm caught I can blame the vertigo.

 

[italianbeef]

 

[dbldrew]

Why would Kane discredit the evidence that clears him of rape?

If he payed off the lab and cops to change the DNA to clear him.. why send the evidence bag to the mother to discredit the proof that clears him? Why bring attention that the evidence now cant be trusted?


That makes No sense. The only logical conclusion is that this is a money grab.. the DNA evidence clears Kane and a few days later that evidence is being discredited by her layers. Its a last ditch effort for a payday

 

[LordKOTL]

This case has been filled with false reporting and assumptions that nothing is absolute until the DA or police department says it is.

All I see from the presser today is the bag that the rape kit was in, that contains personal and confidential matter at this time, that needs to be tracked for its whereabouts at all time, some how just shows up at the accusers front door step and some of you don't see anything wrong with that. I in no way am blaming either side of this, but wondering how the **** the police who've kept this case so secretive, so much so that there is a gag order in place, can suddenly "lose" a piece of potential evidence like that.

To be honest, her lawyer has every right to wonder about the process if something like this happened. I mean there's a fucking protocol in place so it doesn't just show up somewhere randomly.


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I think the Buffalo police outsourced to either the Keyston Kops, Cop Rock, or Reno 911.

Seriously, The only thing this did aside from keep the water as murky as a sewage treatment flocculation tank was possibly torpedo the criminal investigation and start the engines of a massive civil suit or suits.

Assuming what we were told before the presser was true and this woman was raped but in all likleyhood it wasn't Kane, Kane's side has no real reason to do this--after all before evidence of a potential breach of evidence chain all indications pointed to Kane was not the assailant--and why would he open himself up to a massive civil case. Assuming the victuim is truly after justice (and not a payday) it makes no sense for her side to do this because you cannot do another rape kit--and again, based on that *assumption* it's less likley the real rapist (assumption) will be caught. And, why would the DA/Cops open themselves up to a major suit and possible firings by torpedoing their own investigation?

If I was just introduced to everything in the Kane situation today and had to explain it to a firend, I would preface it all with, "I'm not making this shit up..."

[edit] But in Entertainement News Dick Wolf finally has a polt for the pilot of he new series: Law and Order: Court Stenographers

 

[Shantz My Pants]

Now the Erie PD are saying they have everything still, including the original packaging.


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[italianbeef]

Why would Kane discredit the evidence that clears him of rape?

If he payed off the lab and cops to change the DNA to clear him..

You can stop there. It's basically impossible to change the samples, swapping out Kane's with another person's, and not disturbing the accusers', which also must be present. Not to mention the conspiracy it would involve.

I hope that's not what they are alleging happened, because Occam's Razor will tell them to **** off if that's the case.

I think they're trying to show protocol was broken so you have to throw out the evidence that was leaked. However, Hamburg and Erie County are telling them that ain't the case.

 

[Spunky Porkstacker]