Updates to the Kane situation

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and so another example of the pile of shit we call the human race. let's hang em high, let's jump to conclusions, let's get on the side of what is right for society, let's be liberal, let's be politically correct in our actions and opinions, let's crucify him and let the murder free.

i'd rather lay down with a pack of starving wolves that with ANY human being......at least i'd know where i always stood.
 

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Anyone who said people who supported Kane were "rape supporters", thereby implying his guilt.

Yeah because assuming Kane was innocent from the get go (with absolutely no facts) is such a noble thing to do.

Congrats on probably "being right", because we all know that no woman has ever been raped and it's always a money grab.

Idiots like you are why more women don't come forward when they've been sexually assaulted. Hope you're proud of yourself. Don't sever your spinal cord even you bend down to give yourself a ********.
 

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Bottom line, the supposed "evidence" bag that once held the rape kit (the one paraded at the press conference on Wed.), was NOT an evidence bag, nor did it EVER contain the rape kit. The paper bag was given by hospital staff to the accusers MOTHER who was to place the top she was wearing in it, whereby it would be collected by police...who would immediately meet with them at their home. A small but important note, is that the accuser changed her top prior to going to the hospital. Eventually, both tops (and other articles of clothing) were gathered by police, and placed in their own ACTUAL evidence bags.

The rape kit proper, is a box that may/may not be transported within another box. It is NEVER contained within a bag.

The "rape kit bag" "discovered" by the accusers mother is the very one given her by the hospital. She therefore knew what it was, and from whence it came.

Under NY statutes, the Mother's hoax is NOT a crime, however, the DA is looking into the possibility of alternatives. His other focus currently, is to see if the accuser had any part in the shenanigans. That however, is hard to ascertain due to the accuser cannot be spoken to without her legal council present. That said, the investigation of that possibility is ongoing.
 

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Yeah because assuming Kane was innocent from the get go (with absolutely no facts) is such a noble thing to do.

Congrats on probably "being right", because we all know that no woman has ever been raped and it's always a money grab.

Idiots like you are why more women don't come forward when they've been sexually assaulted. Hope you're proud of yourself. Don't sever your spinal cord even you bend down to give yourself a ********.

I never said Kane was innocent from the start, I was just swimming upstream against all of the defendant bashing. Also, the fact that there was never an arrest was a huge hint to anyone with half of a fucking brain.

And some woman who I'll never know the identity of, nor will she of me, won't come forward if she is raped because of me? Keep spouting your feminist propaganda, fuckstick - I'm not buying what you're selling.

If anything, this will stop false accusers from coming forward.
 

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The DA just held his news conference in which he stated the investigation would continue, and that the question is not when, but if, the case will go to a grand jury.

The "rape kit envelope," according to the DA, is a hoax perpetrated by the accuser's mother. Investigators have all evidence, envelopes, etc., intact.

If this girl was truly raped, and truly wanted justice, her mother just torpedoed her entire case. It's over.
 

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The DA just held his news conference in which he stated the investigation would continue, and that the question is not when, but if, the case will go to a grand jury.

The "rape kit envelope," according to the DA, is a hoax perpetrated by the accuser's mother. Investigators have all evidence, envelopes, etc., intact.

If this girl was truly raped, and truly wanted justice, her mother just torpedoed her entire case. It's over.

That and her friend is bailing on her
 

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Actually no, some people said not to read sportsmockery or read Niagara falls reporter because their online paper looked like shit (because appearance is everything) unfortunately for them, it looks like the Tim Graham's, mark Giangreco's and Julie dicaro's of the world were dead wrong,you know the "award winning and credible" tim graham.

With that being said, the case still isn't over with but looking like a giant pile of shit

You can go ahead and mention me by name, slugger. You can read those shitty websites all you want. But if you want to take them as credible news sources, good fucking luck with that.

I don't feel "pretty fucking stupid." The only feeling I have after logging in for the first time in a few days is absolute disgust for so many things that I've read in the last few pages.

So the last 48-72 hours were basically much ado about nothing. Now we're back to the case, where we still don't know a fucking thing about what actually happened. I've got little reason to believe what I've heard from just about anyone's "sources." It's still a wait-and-see situation.
 

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I never said Kane was innocent from the start, I was just swimming upstream against all of the defendant bashing. Also, the fact that there was never an arrest was a huge hint to anyone with half of a fucking brain.

And some woman who I'll never know the identity of, nor will she of me, won't come forward if she is raped because of me? Keep spouting your feminist propaganda, fuckstick - I'm not buying what you're selling.

If anything, this will stop false accusers from coming forward.
Being feminist shouldn't come with a negative connotation that you're apparently giving it.
I'm fine with being a feminist. Pick a different buzz word.
 

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Bottom line, the supposed "evidence" bag that once held the rape kit, was not an evidence bag, nor did it EVER contain the rape kit. The bag was given by hospital staff to the accusers MOTHER who was to place the top she was wearing in it, whereby it would be collected by police...who would immediately meet with them at their home. A small but important note, is that the accuser changed her top prior to going to the hospital. Eventually, both tops (and other articles of clothing) were gathered by police, and placed in their own ACTUAL evidence bags.

The rape kit proper, is a box the may/may not be transported within another box. It is NEVER contained within a bag.

The "rape kit bag" "discovered" by the accusers mother is the very one given her by the hospital. She therefore knew what it was, and from whence it came.

Yeah, the mother was way out of line with that. The DA didn't seem convinced that any legal ramifications could affect her, but maaaaaaaaan did she make that lawyer look terrible.

Only question right now is whether or not the accuser was complicit in any of this. I imagine that'll be a part of the next steps of the investigation.
 

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The DA said that Eannou was acting "sincere" but also "reckless." Can reckless behavior get your dis-barred? Honestly have no idea.

He should have checked with the DA to ensure the chain was intact before having his news conference. He screwed the pooch, knows it and is now ejecting to protect whatever is left of his legal career IMO.
 

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and so another example of the pile of shit we call the human race. let's hang em high, let's jump to conclusions, let's get on the side of what is right for society, let's be liberal, let's be politically correct in our actions and opinions, let's crucify him and let the murder free.

i'd rather lay down with a pack of starving wolves that with ANY human being......at least i'd know where i always stood.

If you're equating each of these statements as equaling the other, I'm not sure you're understanding what you're typing.
 

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Can reckless behavior get your dis-barred? Honestly have no idea.
In this case, under these circumstances...highly unlikely.

I do find it curious that he wouldn't know what the current rape kit, and associated packaging looks like. I also find it curious that the plastic bag marked "evidence", that contained the "rape kit bag", came from his office.
 

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He should have checked with the DA to ensure the chain was intact before having his news conference. He screwed the pooch, knows it and is now ejecting to protect whatever is left of his legal career IMO.

Agreed. Ridiculous ****-up on his part.

On a somewhat related note: I watched a good chunk of the presser today and was quite impressed by the DA. I can see why he has political aspirations. First time in a while I've seen someone involved in this case look like they knew what they were doing.
 

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Did anyone hear the Press Conference this morning with the D.A.?
 

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Did anyone hear the Press Conference this morning with the D.A.?
No, no we didn't.

Bottom line, the supposed "evidence" bag that once held the rape kit (the one paraded at the press conference on Wed.), was NOT an evidence bag, nor did it EVER contain the rape kit. The paper bag was given by hospital staff to the accusers MOTHER who was to place the top she was wearing in it, whereby it would be collected by police...who would immediately meet with them at their home. A small but important note, is that the accuser changed her top prior to going to the hospital. Eventually, both tops (and other articles of clothing) were gathered by police, and placed in their own ACTUAL evidence bags.

The rape kit proper, is a box that may/may not be transported within another box. It is NEVER contained within a bag.

The "rape kit bag" "discovered" by the accusers mother is the very one given her by the hospital. She therefore knew what it was, and from whence it came.

Under NY statutes, the Mother's hoax is NOT a crime, however, the DA is looking into the possibility of alternatives. His other focus currently, is to see if the accuser had any part in the shenanigans. That however, is hard to ascertain due to the accuser cannot be spoken to without her legal council present. That said, the investigation of that possibility is ongoing.

The DA also emphasized, that it's not when a grand jury will convene...but IF.
 
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