Updates to the Kane situation

Is #88 a Dumpster Fire?


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Ares

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The problem is that everyone in the world feels a need to pick a side these days, so everyone quickly rushes to judgment one way or the other and entrenches themselves in that camp.

I don't understand what's so wrong with people admitting that they don't have a fucking clue about what happened that night or what will happen with this case. There's nothing wrong with that

I feel like most of us took the position of wait-and-see.... we had at least one person rushing to judge her as a false accuser...

My only gripe was Kane getting labeled a rapist before any evidence was available, before any charges were considered, before a Grand Jury could see anything, before the rapekit was processed.... it was published "Patrick Kane Accused of Rape" and in the public court of opinion that made him a rapist to plenty of people and it made his accuser a slutty gold digger to many people. In a sensitive case like this, nothing should have been announced unless charges were filed.
 

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I think of it like this; Many of you know I'm a teacher/dean. When I have students come to me saying they got in a trouble, but they didn't do anything I pull up their disciplinary record. When the records show the kid has been in my office a total of 20 or more times I ask one simple question, "Why should I give you the benefit of the doubt?"

Should anyone, least of all people who have no interaction with him other than watching him on tv, really be surprised he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt?

And I don't feel the least bit sorry for the guy.

This is literally the dumbest thing I have heard. So because Kane has done some dumb things drinking in the past, then it makes sense he is a rapist? You're talking about one of the most heinous crimes that can be committed. That is as logical as saying someone with a lot of speeding tickets fits the profile of being a murderer..

You're a teacher? I fear for the future of our next generation..
 

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Her 19yr old friend is now cooperating with police, what a tough spot to be in, one screw up on how the night went down and her friend will probably never get a trial. Awful situation
 

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I think of it like this; Many of you know I'm a teacher/dean. When I have students come to me saying they got in a trouble, but they didn't do anything I pull up their disciplinary record. When the records show the kid has been in my office a total of 20 or more times I ask one simple question, "Why should I give you the benefit of the doubt?"

Are you attempting to make an equivalency between Kane's history of relatively-harmless-though-mildly-embarrassing drunken shenanigans and rape?

Should anyone, least of all people who have no interaction with him other than watching him on tv, really be surprised he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt?

I remember when the wealthy, white, entitled, douchebag fratbrotastic lacrosse players didn't deserve the benefit of the doubt, either.

And I don't feel the least bit sorry for the guy.

Really? Does every insufferably immature drunk deserve to be falsely accused of rape, or just Kane in particular? A rather interesting flip on the "she was asking for it" argument.
 

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Are you attempting to make an equivalency between Kane's history of relatively-harmless-though-mildly-embarrassing drunken shenanigans and rape?



I remember when the wealthy, white, entitled, douchebag fratbrotastic lacrosse players didn't deserve the benefit of the doubt, either.



Really? Does every insufferably immature drunk deserve to be falsely accused of rape, or just Kane in particular? A rather interesting flip on the "she was asking for it" argument.

Oh flatbread... you may as well be a subway sandwich because you sure are a MEATBALL!
 

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I see one group of posters continuing to make reasoned arguments to which another respond with ad hominem insults. I guess when when all else fails, pound the table.
 

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I see one group of posters continuing to make reasoned arguments to which another respond with ad hominem insults. I guess when when all else fails, pound the table.

Paternalistic, Quixotic internet slacktivism lets everyone ********** to how morally enlightened they are: What's that Twitter? A woman' says she's been raped by a rich, brotastic athlete?!?! Assemble the Internet Rape Defense Force, so that we may impugn the reputation of a citizen regardless of the evidence! It falls to us to defend the honor of these fair maidens in 140 characters or less, so incapable they are of doing it themselves!

These tediously moralizing do-gooders aren't fighting rape culture. They're not making a tangible difference in the lives of rape victims. They're just stroking themselves. And all the while they're enabling the sick opportunists, like Lena Dunham, mattress-girl, and Rolling Stone, who cause actual harm to the reputation of real rape victims by making it harder for their claims to be believed.
 

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Paternalistic, Quixotic internet slacktivism lets everyone ********** to how morally enlightened they are: What's that Twitter? A woman' says she's been raped by a rich, brotastic athlete?!?! Assemble the Internet Rape Defense Force, so that we may impugn the reputation of a citizen regardless of the evidence! It falls to us to defend the honor of these fair maidens in 140 characters or less, so incapable they are of doing it themselves!

These tediously moralizing do-gooders aren't fighting rape culture. They're not making a tangible difference in the lives of rape victims. They're just stroking themselves. And all the while they're enabling the sick opportunists, like Lena Dunham, mattress-girl, and Rolling Stone, who cause actual harm to the reputation of real rape victims by making it harder for their claims to be believed.

You realize their defending her because there are meatballs that think and have been saying "well she went to his house at 3am, what did she think was going to happen" and "Kane could have any girl he wants, why would he rape her" type bullshit that's holding back society and also hurting potential woman who are raped from coming forward.

If you cannot see how this type of thought process and all the slandering and slut shaming that is being done to this girl, who we don't even know if she is lying or telling the truth, would prevent other people who are actually assaulted or have been assaulted from coming forward and looking for help, then you are in fact ignorant or Special person.

None of us have said we think Kane did anything; actually we have said let's wait till evidence comes out before we make a judgement. Yet, many here have no problem assuming the girl is a slutty gold digger looking for her pay day. Hopefully nobody on the DA went into this case with that mentality cause if they did, and she was hypothetically raped, she'd have no chance for justice.


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Are you attempting to make an equivalency between Kane's history of relatively-harmless-though-mildly-embarrassing drunken shenanigans and rape?

Just like Timpartial Graham did:

 

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I see one group of posters continuing to make reasoned arguments to which another respond with ad hominem insults. I guess when when all else fails, pound the table.


Old lawyer adage: When the facts are on your side, pound the facts. When the law is on your side, pound the law. When neither is on your side, pound the table.

Or in this case, wave the envelope.

Speaking of which, Julie DiCaro had to backpedal several times that she never received a death threat. Just an odd tweet that mentioned places she frequents on a daily basis. So she spun it into a yarn to distract attention away from the case that is circling the drain and redirect it to Evil Patrick Kane Fans.
 
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