Updates to the Kane situation

[italianbeef]

You realize their defending her because there are meatballs that think and have been saying "well she went to his house at 3am, what did she think was going to happen" and "Kane could have any girl he wants, why would he rape her" type bullshit that's holding back society and also hurting potential woman who are raped from coming forward.

If you cannot see how this type of thought process and all the slandering and slut shaming that is being done to this girl, who we don't even know if she is lying or telling the truth, would prevent other people who are actually assaulted or have been assaulted from coming forward and looking for help, then you are in fact ignorant or Special person.

None of us have said we think Kane did anything; actually we have said let's wait till evidence comes out before we make a judgement. Yet, many here have no problem assuming the girl is a slutty gold digger looking for her pay day. Hopefully nobody on the DA went into this case with that mentality cause if they did, and she was hypothetically raped, she'd have no chance for justice.

Yes, speculating about the anonymous accuser's reputation, motivation, thought process, and judgements are off-limits, while the accused can have his past picked apart, character assassinated, lifestyle criticized and used as a jumping off point for wild assumptions, all based on an accusation.

Rape culture? People have been brainwashed to believe if a woman accuses a man of rape - even if there is no evidence, and even if he hasn't been charged the guy is guilty until he can prove innocence, and even then that isn't good enough.

Kane has been treated unfairly and it bothers me from a cultural perspective someone can be treated like this especially in the USA where there is a presumption of innocence until guilt is proven.

Yes, there are fanboys who will defend Kane blindly. Then there's the other 99%.

 

[HeHateMe]

Yes, speculating about the anonymous accuser's reputation, motivation, thought process, and judgements are off-limits, while the accused can have his past picked apart, character assassinated, lifestyle criticized and used as a jumping off point for wild assumptions, all based on an accusation.

Rape culture? People have been brainwashed to believe if a woman accuses a man of rape - even if there is no evidence, and even if he hasn't been charged the guy is guilty until he can prove innocence, and even then that isn't good enough.

Kane has been treated unfairly and it bothers me from a cultural perspective someone can be treated like this especially in the USA where there is a presumption of innocence until guilt is proven.

Yes, there are fanboys who will defend Kane blindly. Then there's the other 99%.

 

[fatbeard]

You realize their defending her because there are meatballs that think and have been saying "well she went to his house at 3am, what did she think was going to happen" and "Kane could have any girl he wants, why would he rape her" type bullshit that's holding back society and also hurting potential woman who are raped from coming forward.

Yes, I do realize this. However, paternalistic, Quixotic internet slacktivism is still paternalistic Quixotic internet slacktivism, regardless of how well-intentioned it is. I question whether they are truly helping rape victims, especially when it only leads to a massive pool of credulity like we've seen in this rapidly unraveling case.

If you cannot see how this type of thought process and all the slandering and slut shaming that is being done to this girl, who we don't even know if she is lying or telling the truth, would prevent other people who are actually assaulted or have been assaulted from coming forward and looking for help, then you are in fact ignorant or Special person.

Do you believe that people posting things on Twitter in defense of this woman will actually help future rape victims come forward?

None of us have said we think Kane did anything; actually we have said let's wait till evidence comes out before we make a judgement. Yet, many here have no problem assuming the girl is a slutty gold digger looking for her pay day. Hopefully nobody on the DA went into this case with that mentality cause if they did, and she was hypothetically raped, she'd have no chance for justice.

I have no problem calling out the brotastic KANER4EVER crowd for their meatball idiocy. What I take issue with is when the shrill defenders of a woman who may or may not be telling the truth call anyone who wants to wait for more evidence a "rape enabler".

 

[Raskolnikov]

You realize their defending her because there are meatballs that think and have been saying "well she went to his house at 3am, what did she think was going to happen" and "Kane could have any girl he wants, why would he rape her" type bullshit that's holding back society and also hurting potential woman who are raped from coming forward.

If you cannot see how this type of thought process and all the slandering and slut shaming that is being done to this girl, who we don't even know if she is lying or telling the truth, would prevent other people who are actually assaulted or have been assaulted from coming forward and looking for help, then you are in fact ignorant or Special person.

None of us have said we think Kane did anything; actually we have said let's wait till evidence comes out before we make a judgement. Yet, many here have no problem assuming the girl is a slutty gold digger looking for her pay day. Hopefully nobody on the DA went into this case with that mentality cause if they did, and she was hypothetically raped, she'd have no chance for justice.


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This is pretty stupid logic.

 

[Sunbiz1]

Yes, speculating about the anonymous accuser's reputation, motivation, thought process, and judgements are off-limits, while the accused can have his past picked apart, character assassinated, lifestyle criticized and used as a jumping off point for wild assumptions, all based on an accusation.

Rape culture? People have been brainwashed to believe if a woman accuses a man of rape - even if there is no evidence, and even if he hasn't been charged the guy is guilty until he can prove innocence, and even then that isn't good enough.

Kane has been treated unfairly and it bothers me from a cultural perspective someone can be treated like this especially in the USA where there is a presumption of innocence until guilt is proven.

Yes, there are fanboys who will defend Kane blindly. Then there's the other 99%.

Kane should file a civil suit naming the complaining witness as the defendant.

Not for the $$ which he doesn't need anyways, but rather to send a message. If you accuse someone of rape, you damn well better be telling the truth. Our criminal justice system is not in place to be abused or as a means to obtain personal revenge.

 

[xer0h0ur]

Meanwhile, Julie Dicaro can't go to her work today because of threats on twitter.

Congrats Blackhawks fans!

Excuse me if my **** doesn't bleed for some gold digging whore. Perhaps she should stay home and take some more bukakke from multiple dudes.

 

[Shantz My Pants]

Excuse me if my **** doesn't bleed for some gold digging whore. Perhaps she should stay home and take some more bukakke from multiple dudes.

Julie DiCaro works for 670 the score who's been reporting (she has her law degree, and is an ex rape victim) on the Kane story.


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[Samurai]

Her 19yr old friend is now cooperating with police, what a tough spot to be in, one screw up on how the night went down and her friend will probably never get a trial. Awful situation

If you can, show your sources.

 

[Tater]

Julie DiCaro works for 670 the score who's been reporting (she has her law degree, and is an ex rape victim) on the Kane story.


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I missed it, what did she have to say?

 

[TCD]

Julie DiCaro works for 670 the score who's been reporting (she has her law degree, and is an ex rape victim) on the Kane story.


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Shes as useless as the next twitter idiot who can't properly write and uses it as a tool to attack others. I saw her post after she was threatened (which is obviously fucked up) and I have to say she does not help her own situation when she generalizes all hawk fans as asshole like she did. It's pretty easy to state the individuals name or state the twitter account of the person who is threatening you instead of lumping every single Hawk fan into that category of people.

Lazy writing like the rest.

 

[xer0h0ur]

This is literally the dumbest thing I have heard. So because Kane has done some dumb things drinking in the past, then it makes sense he is a rapist? You're talking about one of the most heinous crimes that can be committed. That is as logical as saying someone with a lot of speeding tickets fits the profile of being a murderer..

You're a teacher? I fear for the future of our next generation..

This^ I would genuinely report this moron to the board of directors of whatever school he's the dean of if I knew where he was dean. No one should be dean with this sort of mentality. You don't belong in that position of power thinking like this.

I think of it like this; Many of you know I'm a teacher/dean. When I have students come to me saying they got in a trouble, but they didn't do anything I pull up their disciplinary record. When the records show the kid has been in my office a total of 20 or more times I ask one simple question, "Why should I give you the benefit of the doubt?"

Should anyone, least of all people who have no interaction with him other than watching him on tv, really be surprised he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt?

And I don't feel the least bit sorry for the guy.

You're a shit dean then if you can't differentiate between Kane's past and a god damned rape allegation. His past has dick to do with sexual assault or rape. That is like assuming I murdered someone because I was arrested for stealing a lollipop.

 

[xer0h0ur]

Julie DiCaro works for 670 the score who's been reporting (she has her law degree, and is an ex rape victim) on the Kane story.


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Sorry, my mistake for assuming that was the name of the alleged rape victim.

 

[xer0h0ur]

I feel like most of us took the position of wait-and-see.... we had at least one person rushing to judge her as a false accuser...

My only gripe was Kane getting labeled a rapist before any evidence was available, before any charges were considered, before a Grand Jury could see anything, before the rapekit was processed.... it was published "Patrick Kane Accused of Rape" and in the public court of opinion that made him a rapist to plenty of people and it made his accuser a slutty gold digger to many people. In a sensitive case like this, nothing should have been announced unless charges were filed.

God damn, I was beginning to think no one thought like this. Thank Jesus sanity still exists.

 

[BlackHawkPaul]

Shes as useless as the next twitter idiot who can't properly write and uses it as a tool to attack others. I saw her post after she was threatened (which is obviously fucked up) and I have to say she does not help her own situation when she generalizes all hawk fans as asshole like she did. It's pretty easy to state the individuals name or state the twitter account of the person who is threatening you instead of lumping every single Hawk fan into that category of people.

Lazy writing like the rest.

That's what I don't get with her or the dude from Buffalo. Don't engage with the crazies on Twitter. Some of the exchanges were sad on all parts.
You don't have to be a robot on social media, but these battles are a stalemate. Just like this thread.

 

[Raskolnikov]

That's what I don't get with her or the dude from Buffalo. Don't engage with the crazies on Twitter. Some of the exchanges were sad on all parts.
You don't have to be a robot on social media, but these battles are a stalemate. Just like this thread.

Stalemate? no. Mexican standoff? no. Beating a dead horse that is flatlined brain dead and can't comprehend simple points or any variance in concept that strays from their own pile of shit leaking out their dead horse ass. yes.

 

[TCD]

That's what I don't get with her or the dude from Buffalo. Don't engage with the crazies on Twitter. Some of the exchanges were sad on all parts.
You don't have to be a robot on social media, but these battles are a stalemate. Just like this thread.

Pretty much. I don't get it either. What's wrong with just stepping away? Doesn't signify defeat does it? I guess it does to some people. Pride is a nasty thing sometimes I suppose. Glad I have zero...toaster bath pride is all I need.

 

[Bigfoot]

I'm only here to push this thread to a 100 pages

 

[TCD]

I'm only here to push this thread to a 100 pages

Push push in the bush!

 

[Samurai]

I'm only here to push this thread to a 100 pages

Try pushing your way into a crease.


With permission, of course.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

This is literally the dumbest thing I have heard. So because Kane has done some dumb things drinking in the past, then it makes sense he is a rapist? You're talking about one of the most heinous crimes that can be committed. That is as logical as saying someone with a lot of speeding tickets fits the profile of being a murderer..

You're a teacher? I fear for the future of our next generation..

That's not what I said at all.