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rofl. theres a poll on biowares site. Of 30k people voting only 2% liked the ending. I'll find out exactly what it is in good time, But im hoping Ive prepared myself for it to be so bad by the hoopla that I wont find it as bad as the hype. Seriously at this point The only thing in my mind that could really warrant such a reaction is the reapers ultimately winning and the cycle continuing, and don't comment on that Supra.



My sole reason for that is it really does put a hamper on creating other games based on the Universe, and its friggin shame to literally close the book in what is in my opinion one of the best sci-fi universes ever created. And it would literally be closing the book, because the whole thing that makes space dramas interesting is that there are humans, and if the reapers win there are likely not going to be humans when the next space faring cycle comes along.



So in my opinion seriously that is the only way I will be that angry about the ending, I would be fine with it, if like had to practically destroy galactic civilization to stop the reapers, by like imploding the mass relays and marooning everyone in whatever system they are in at the time, but the reapers winning? That is about the only thing I couldnt stomache, and its literally just because that does kinda put a hamper on the "future titles" based on different characters. If they just bunked their ability to travel between systems, its not difficult to surmise within a reasonable timeframe, the civilizations of the galaxy might figure out how to make their own mass relays.



That and they cant really make a game about reapers anymore. So setting another title essentially doing the same thing, doesnt really work because a huge part of Mass Effect was literally figuring out what the hell you were up against and how to take them down. Once you know all that it kind of takes the wind out of the sails of a future title based on the same premise.



One of the big problems is the ending leaves more questions than it answers and it just doesn't seem to add up. Regardless of choice the end cinematic is the same with very minor variations. Even the ending I choose which to me was the "right" thing to do the video didn't make sense and the cinematic fit that ending the best. The other endings? the cinematic makes zero sense.



Like I talked to you last night. I think a lot of people (myself included) ****spoiler alert, TSD you know about this one already**** wanted Shepard to survive to see the brand new day.
 

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Isn't there a petition to change the ending or something? How stupid is that and did they think about how Bioware would actually go about doing it, considering the myriad of different variations of endings a player can get?



Eh whatever. I really tried to get into the series, I really tried to like it. I just couldn't continue playing the first game. And that kinda killed it for me, especially if the other 2 games improved in ways I would like, it kinda defeats the purpose of weaving your own story through the game series when you skip or don't like the first and/or second games.
 

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Isn't there a petition to change the ending or something? How stupid is that and did they think about how Bioware would actually go about doing it, considering the myriad of different variations of endings a player can get?



Eh whatever. I really tried to get into the series, I really tried to like it. I just couldn't continue playing the first game. And that kinda killed it for me, especially if the other 2 games improved in ways I would like, it kinda defeats the purpose of weaving your own story through the game series when you skip or don't like the first and/or second games.



I have to retract my statement about the ending since I haven't seen the "perfect" ending so until I achieve that ending the ending I have seen on Youtube and personally achieved are sufficient.



Well I learned last night that I did not achieve the perfect ending. Those the devs said it was possible to get without multi, it is impossible for me to get without multi so me and TSD banged on that last night and got like 3%
 

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Isn't there a petition to change the ending or something? How stupid is that and did they think about how Bioware would actually go about doing it, considering the myriad of different variations of endings a player can get?



Eh whatever. I really tried to get into the series, I really tried to like it. I just couldn't continue playing the first game. And that kinda killed it for me, especially if the other 2 games improved in ways I would like, it kinda defeats the purpose of weaving your own story through the game series when you skip or don't like the first and/or second games.



I agree with you bioware is not going to patch new endings into the game. But anyone that would insult the fans outrage over what they feel is a disservice to them as well as the franchise itself is ludicrous. You dont wait 6 years and in my case what will probably end up being over 300 hours of gameplay and immersing yourself in the universe and characters just to be like, yeah whatever, if the ending is absolutely horrid. Can I do anything about it? No. But you bet your ass I would voice my opinion of the travesty.



Now I havent personally seen the endings yet, im still playing the game, when I see it, I'll have a better outlook on whether or not I think the outrage is warranted. Nobody told people to quit whining when the Sopranos had a shit ending, or when the Matrix had a shit ending, why? Because they really had shit endings. Unfortunately for video game companies its actually feasible for them to patch in New endings, especially if theres no audio dialog in the epilogue. SO they get things like people demanding new endings.



I mentioned this in the movie thread where I hate when movies go for the "ironic" or "artsy" or flat out dont explain anything, thus not being an ending at all. That shit is just stupid.
 

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Street date for Diablo III is May 15 per Blizzard. So who's getting it? I've got my 5 bucks down already (had it down for months)
 

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ME3 player reports EA to feds for false advertising.

http://kotaku.com/58...he-games-ending



NERD RAGE



I finally beat the game last night, and this is a bit much. Believe me the ending could be much better. But it wasnt that bad where im going to go out campaigning against it. I mean you do know whether you won/lost the fight that was culminating over three games, but theres a thing that happens that essentially changes the galaxy in a huge way. and I think people just want to know more or less which of the core characters lived and how the civilizations of the galaxy cope.



I mean basically you are hit with this bombshell and then it just ends, thats about the only way I could put it.
 

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I finally beat the game last night, and this is a bit much. Believe me the ending could be much better. But it wasnt that bad where im going to go out campaigning against it. I mean you do know whether you won/lost the fight that was culminating over three games, but theres a thing that happens that essentially changes the galaxy in a huge way. and I think people just want to know more or less which of the core characters lived and how the civilizations of the galaxy cope.



I mean basically you are hit with this bombshell and then it just ends, thats about the only way I could put it.



I seen this earlier and really didnt phase me and then it sunk in a bit. Really suing over this? Is the ending what I had hoped for? Nope not at all. Would I like to see a different ending? Yep. But I'll deal if I don't get it. However I will not buy DLC that either extends the game and answers some questions or changes the ending. If it is just a side mission before the final missions. **** that I aint getting it.
 

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I seen this earlier and really didnt phase me and then it sunk in a bit. Really suing over this? Is the ending what I had hoped for? Nope not at all. Would I like to see a different ending? Yep. But I'll deal if I don't get it. However I will not buy DLC that either extends the game and answers some questions or changes the ending. If it is just a side mission before the final missions. **** that I aint getting it.



I mentioned this on the bioware forum and got ran out of town. I seriously think the cryptic ending (no matter what ending you got) was simply because bioware didnt want to commit on a canon outcome at this time. I personally would love to see the subsequent events of mass effect 3 revealed in a future title, not a DLC. It would be great playing a new character however many years down the road, and discovering what ultimately happened throughout your gameplay in that game. The fact is, if they have any intentions of making a future game they have to get around that little "problem", and learning about how they did it in a future title would be cool.



Seriously the end could just fade to black, and I couldnt look back on that game and say it was bad. It was still the best one of the series, I had alot of fun playing it.
 

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I mentioned this on the bioware forum and got ran out of town. I seriously think the cryptic ending (no matter what ending you got) was simply because bioware didnt want to commit on a canon outcome at this time. I personally would love to see the subsequent events of mass effect 3 revealed in a future title, not a DLC. It would be great playing a new character however many years down the road, and discovering what ultimately happened throughout your gameplay in that game. The fact is, if they have any intentions of making a future game they have to get around that little "problem", and learning about how they did it in a future title would be cool.



Seriously the end could just fade to black, and I couldnt look back on that game and say it was bad. It was still the best one of the series, I had alot of fun playing it.



I goofed (had a lot on my mind today) but I would buy that DLC. I would not buy DLC that is just a side mission
 

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I goofed (had a lot on my mind today) but I would buy that DLC. I would not buy DLC that is just a side mission



Oh I would too, but I wouldnt be opposed to wrapping it up in a future title.



I keep thinking Bioware will never change the endings so the outcry is pointless, but then it dawned on me Bethesda did do exactly that after fan outrage over the ending of FO3. Although depending on what it is they would do, Since they like to use high price voice talent, I dont know if there would be much in the way of new dialogue particularly from characters voiced by bigger names.
 

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Oh I would too, but I wouldnt be opposed to wrapping it up in a future title.



I keep thinking Bioware will never change the endings so the outcry is pointless, but then it dawned on me Bethesda did do exactly that after fan outrage over the ending of FO3. Although depending on what it is they would do, Since they like to use high price voice talent, I dont know if there would be much in the way of new dialogue particularly from characters voiced by bigger names.



Gamespot reported that they are considering it.
 

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Didn't something like happen before the game was actually released and the endings were leaked and the backlash was negative and they changed it......to the endings people still don't like and want changed again?
 

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Didn't something like happen before the game was actually released and the endings were leaked and the backlash was negative and they changed it......to the endings people still don't like and want changed again?



Fallout 3 I know this happened to, but I dont think people were so much pissed at the ending as they were pissed that the game ends (traditionally Bethesda allows the game to continue after the main quest with their rpgs, and fans were surprised that was not the case with FO3). But I dont think they got pissed at the second ending. but bethesda games arent nearly as character driven and deep as bioware games. Bioware games tend to be more linear, but have cinema quality story and character development. Whereas Bethesda games are completely free roaming and their characters really lack any real development. Bioware and particularly mass effect. The character interactions are very deep, which is why people care so much about the end,





SPOILER, while I am using star wars as a metaphor, this is seriously the ending of mass effect 3



Imagine this. Star Wars ends when luke is given 3 options by the emperor who afterall doesnt seem like a bad guy, especially since at this point he just lets you fubar the empire when he really has no reason to (yes the arch villain essentially says **** it, without so much as zapping you once with force lightning, when he has all the power to stop you from doing anything and basically gives you 3 ways you can take out the empire). So you can A. blow up everyone in the empire instaniously, but you have to die for it to happen, because you once teetered on the brink of the dark side. B. Choose to mind control the empire but your consciousness has to be uploaded into a machine, so you essentially die. C. Make the empire all good guys and everyone lives in a happy fairy land, but you have to die to do it. and on top of it no matter which option you choose, all hyperdrives in the galaxy are rendered useless so interstellar travel is impossible, so everyone is essentially stuck in whatever solar system they are currently in, i.e. the entire rebel alliance fleet is stuck on endor basically (this situation is actually worse in mass effect considering you are on earth, and their are alien species stuck there that evolved differently and cant eat earth based anything, so they will all starve to death). Then just as the hyper drives start going out it shows the millenium falcon for some reason, being in the middle of running from the fight, drops out of hyper space and crash lands on a planet then you see han walk out of it, looking all confused then the credits roll. Tell me you dont think thats a shitty ending.
 

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