Waldo And Jntg4's Cubs Prospect Discussion Thread

[FirstTimer]

Colvin was not suppost to hit 20hr before this season started. If he didn't have "camp Colvin", he probably wouldn't even have made the team.

Do you even read before you post?

 

[waldo7239117]

Do you even read before you post?

Uhhh yeah and that makes total sense. But again there wasn't a "camp Colvin" before the season started and if Colvin didn't shine, there wouldn't be one. For instance, this offseason where more players showed up.

Also it helped that Colvin worked out, got more power and buffed up. Also he gained weight. This with becoming more muscular had as much part in gaining more power with practice.

 

[FirstTimer]

how about you tell your boy what you think of colvin, scared to do so? I mean you think he sucks and all.

You are terrible at this.

I don't care what CO thinks of Colvin. What CO thinks of Colvin is completely irrelevant to the point I made.

Regardless of what CO thinks of Colvin I think even he could grasp the concept that when the Cubs took him 13th overall in the draft it was pretty safe to say him hitting 20 HR's in a season at the major league level wouldn't have come as too much of a shock to the organization. In fact, it was more than likely expected.

 

[DewsSox79]

You are terrible at this.

I don't care what CO thinks of Colvin. What CO thinks of Colvin is completely irrelevant to the point I made.

Regardless of what CO thinks of Colvin I think even he could grasp the concept that when the Cubs took him 13th overall in the draft it was pretty safe to say him hitting 20 HR's in a season at the major league level wouldn't have come as too much of a shock to the organization. In fact, it was more than likely expected.

wrong.

 

[FirstTimer]

Uhhh yeah and that makes total sense.

No it doesn't.

it's not even in the context of what I was saying.

Try again.

Also it helped that Colvin worked out, got more power and buffed up. Also he gained weight. This with becoming more muscular had as much part in gaining more power with practice.

You do realize Colvin was hitting for power in the minors right? He lead his AA team in HR's despite playing only a little over half the season there.

 

[waldo7239117]

You are terrible at this.

I don't care what CO thinks of Colvin. What CO thinks of Colvin is completely irrelevant to the point I made.

Regardless of what CO thinks of Colvin I think even he could grasp the concept that when the Cubs took him 13th overall in the draft it was pretty safe to say him hitting 20 HR's in a season at the major league level wouldn't have come as too much of a shock to the organization. In fact, it was more than likely expected.

Maybe your right and the front office could have thought that but he didn't show much power in the minors. As he only had about 45hr in 4 seasons.

I know the minors does not mean anything and only the majors does, but maybe that is what people could be thinking. But I can't say anything in their behalf because IDK.

 

[FirstTimer]

wrong.

Tremendous explanation.

I'd ask you to defend your viewpoint but more than likely you can't and will just dance around it as usual.

You're literally impossible to hold a conversation with. You make ridiculously stupid claims. Refuse to back them up, and seem to think you make any sort of actual point.

 

[FirstTimer]

he didn't show much power in the minors. As he only had 20hr in the minors all together.

WHAT?!?!

Tyler Colvin Minor League Statistics & History - Baseball-Reference.com

Tyler Colvin hit 56 minor league homeruns.

He lead his team at AA Tennessee in HR's in 2009 despite playing a little over half the games with the team after being promoted.

Please quit posting.

 

[waldo7239117]

No it doesn't.

it's not even in the context of what I was saying.

Try again.




You do realize Colvin was hitting for power in the minors right? He lead his AA team in HR's despite playing only a little over half the season there.

Maybe he did lead AA in HR but only had 14. That's not much of a win. The Cubs biggest weakest in their minors in power and that shows..

In all fairness IDK what you were talking about. I didn't read all posts because they were on pages before.

 

[waldo7239117]

WHAT?!?!

Tyler Colvin Minor League Statistics & History - Baseball-Reference.com

Tyler Colvin hit 56 minor league homeruns.

He lead his team at AA Tennessee in HR's in 2009 despite playing a little over half the games with the team after being promoted.

Please quit posting.

I edited it because I caught the mistake. Calm down! Sheesh.

 

[FirstTimer]

Do you even read before you post?

Uhhh yeah .

In all fairness IDK what you were talking about. I didn't read all posts because they were on pages before.

Maybe he did lead AA in HR but only had 14.

He lead the team and played barely over half the season there. It's not like he played a full season of AA ball and lead the team with 14. He played just over half the season and lead them in HR's and slugged .524.

 

[waldo7239117]

Maybe he did lead AA in HR but only had 14. That's not much of a win. The Cubs biggest weakest in their minors in power and that shows..








He lead the team and played barely over half the season there. It's not like he played a full season of AA ball and lead the team with 14. He played just over half the season and lead them in HR's and slugged .524.

I read my posts but not others people's. That's what I was referring too.

In 2008 for the Smokies he did play 137 games and 540 at-bats. That is more than half and a lot of at-bats. He almost played a full season but he didn't like you said. He played enough games to lead when a team does not have power and 14hr is low for a power guy. Even not in a full season.

 

[DewsSox79]

Tremendous explanation.

I'd ask you to defend your viewpoint but more than likely you can't and will just dance around it as usual.

You're literally impossible to hold a conversation with. You make ridiculously stupid claims. Refuse to back them up, and seem to think you make any sort of actual point.

and you are trying so hard to be like lefty, it is amusing. you are like a child.

You don't build around a guy that has like 60 IP. You don't build anything around Colvin. He is a 4th OFer.

Yes. Colvin is going to have a hard time putting up those power numbers again.

I wonder if the doctor made him Inspector Colvin. Then he'd get a starting spot.

 

[Captain Obvious]

You are terrible at this.

I don't care what CO thinks of Colvin. What CO thinks of Colvin is completely irrelevant to the point I made.

Regardless of what CO thinks of Colvin I think even he could grasp the concept that when the Cubs took him 13th overall in the draft it was pretty safe to say him hitting 20 HR's in a season at the major league level wouldn't have come as too much of a shock to the organization. In fact, it was more than likely expected.

If someone said that he would get 400 PAs and hit 20 HRs, I probably would have doubted it, actually. That's because I really don't think that his power numbers are legit. He had a .246 ISO and as far as I am concerned that is unsustainable for him. However, you said that it wouldn't come as much shock to the organization and that I can believe. I would have called you crazy if you said he'd hit 20 in 400, but the Cubs I can totally see that out of.

BTW, Dewey, still waiting for you to reply in the other thread.

 

[FirstTimer]

I edited it because I caught the mistake. Calm down! Sheesh.

Maybe your right and the front office could have thought that but he didn't show much power in the minors. As he only had about 45hr in 4 seasons.

And you're still wrong!

Holy Lord!

 

[DewsSox79]

If someone said that he would get 400 PAs and hit 20 HRs, I probably would have doubted it, actually. That's because I really don't think that his power numbers are legit. He had a .246 ISO and as far as I am concerned that is unsustainable for him. However, you said that it wouldn't come as much shock to the organization and that I can believe. I would have called you crazy if you said he'd hit 20 in 400, but the Cubs I can totally see that out of.

BTW, Dewey, still waiting for you to reply in the other thread.

I really dont know what to tell you. it is black and white what i stated, if you cannot understand, oh well.

 

[FirstTimer]

and you are trying so hard to be like lefty, it is amusing. you are like a child.

Nothing of what you posted of CO's matters to me because CO didn't draft him 13th overall.

However, you said that it wouldn't come as much shock to the organization and that I can believe.

DING!

 

[waldo7239117]

And you're still wrong!

Holy Lord!

Yeah I know.. I didn't add the seasons up.. I guessed.. He played 4 seasons with at least 10hr, with a 11, 14, 16, 15.. Around that. So around 55hr in the minors. But I think you already said how many hr he had in the minors. 58 I think.

 

[Captain Obvious]

I really dont know what to tell you. it is black and white what i stated, if you cannot understand, oh well.

Yeah, but no one ever said he would be great. So that kinda tears your whole point up...

 

[FirstTimer]

I really dont know what to tell you. it is black and white what i stated, if you cannot understand, oh well.

Nope.

Wrong again.

Your opinion and theory of how you would rate prospects is not "black and white".


How do you suggest we project the player? What evidence and analytical process should we use?

You can keep trying to dodge it all you want but it just makes you look more and more dumb.