Watch Deng sign elsewhere while we chase Melo and end up overpaying Danny Granger!

[clonetrooper264]

I think more rests on Snell's success this season, than anything else. If Snell convinces the bunch that he's going to fit, then I believe that would indicate the Bulls being very open to letting Deng walk, if no ideal contract or trade happens. Not what I want to see happen, just what I think will indicate more of what WILL happen.

Not the ideal situation unless Snell really really looks good during the season, something I can't see happening due to lack of playing time. If Snell can be as good a shooter as Jimmy was a defender, I think we should be ecstatic.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

I would not trade Luol Deng for Carmelo Anthony straight up even if their contracts were identical. I don't want that fat, cancerous, blackhole, ball-stopping, one dimensional overrated piece of shit anywhere near my team. As a poster above said he would waste Rose. I'll also add that there would be no ball-movement on offense, our defense would be significantly worse, and well... basically every aspect of the team would be worse.

Carmelo Anthony is the single most overrated player in NBA history.

Are you high?

Put Melo at 4 and he stretches the floor. He forces LeBron to work on defense. And he is not much worse as a defender than Boozer. He is arguably better.

Noah/Taj
Mirotic
Melo
Butler
Rose

or

Noah/Taj
Melo
Snell
Butler
Rose

That's 4 three-point shooters on the floor. You'd be crazy to take the team the Bulls are now over that.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

not cool with Melo.....that would waste Rose.

Rose-Melo 1-4 Pick-and-Roll/Pop.

 

[Cerebral]

I think more rests on Snell's success this season, than anything else. If Snell convinces the bunch that he's going to fit, then I believe that would indicate the Bulls being very open to letting Deng walk, if no ideal contract or trade happens. Not what I want to see happen, just what I think will indicate more of what WILL happen.

The problem with that is, even if Snell is the answer at SF we won't know til year 3 of his career. Thibs doesn't trust rookies, and will only play them in their second year when injuries hit. Look at Butler. He barely sniffed the floor his rookie campaign. And due to Rips and Dengs injuries last season, we got a gllimpse of what Butler could do. This is the year for Butler to take the starting SG role and run with it. I just think that's the way Thibs works.

 

[houheffna]

I would not trade Luol Deng for Carmelo Anthony straight up even if their contracts were identical. I don't want that fat, cancerous, blackhole, ball-stopping, one dimensional overrated piece of shit anywhere near my team. As a poster above said he would waste Rose. I'll also add that there would be no ball-movement on offense, our defense would be significantly worse, and well... basically every aspect of the team would be worse.

Carmelo Anthony is the single most overrated player in NBA history.

I assume you've watched the NBA for all of....5 minutes???

Carmelo is one of the top 2 or 3 best scorers in the game and has been for quite some time. Deng is nowhere near his level. You HAVE to be kidding me. And no one player would make Thibs defense "significantly" worse. Carmelo Anthony is a top 10 player.

 

[Axl Rose]

and the melo debate begins again

i remember i trolled the other melo thread and pushed it into legendary status

yall are wasting your time debating if you want melo or not as he wont be available....this upcoming FA is gonna be uneventful...Deng and Granger will be the highlights

 

[scottiepippen1994]

and the melo debate begins again

i remember i trolled the other melo thread and pushed it into legendary status

yall are wasting your time debating if you want melo or not as he wont be available....this upcoming FA is gonna be uneventful...Deng and Granger will be the highlights

We are fucked.

 

[RC_Skinny22]

F Melo, I want Paul George!

 

[Axl Rose]

We are fucked.

pretty much unless nikola is as good as advertised and that bobcats pick pans out

i think we'll ultimately end up resigning Deng at 12per...best thing we can hope for is its only 3 years and not 5

 

[Crystallas]

Not the ideal situation unless Snell really really looks good during the season, something I can't see happening due to lack of playing time. If Snell can be as good a shooter as Jimmy was a defender, I think we should be ecstatic.

I don't think the Bulls are going to be looking for $12-15 million dollar performances from a guy that makes that. They are going to be more interested in finding $7 million dollars worth of performances from guys that make $2million.

 

[Daa Bearrs]

I assume you've watched the NBA for all of....5 minutes???

Carmelo is one of the top 2 or 3 best scorers in the game and has been for quite some time. Deng is nowhere near his level. You HAVE to be kidding me. And no one player would make Thibs defense "significantly" worse. Carmelo Anthony is a top 10 player.

1. I've been watching the NBA since the 92/93 season

2. Carmelo Anthony being one of the top 2 or 3 scorers in the game is factually incorrect (Lebron, Durant, and Harden are ahead of him by a significant margin)

3. Carmelo Anthony is good at one thing and one thing only. He is a good iso scorer. That's it. He's a mediocre defender (at best), a mediocre rebounder, one of the most horrific ball-hogs in the history of the game, a horrible passer, and his BBIQ is mentally challenged at best and brain dead at worst. He's also being paid about 8 million dollars or so over his actual value.

4. The idea that he is a top ten player is laughable and this is literally the only basketball board that I post on where the majority of the users think he's a top player. Just because he's good in NBA2k, is good when it comes to fantasy basketball, is voted into all-star games by fans, in is in a lot of commercials doesn't mean anything.

5. He has the worst playoffs record in the history of the NBA.

6. He's a cancer, and I really don't want to have to put the rest of the Bulls squad through radiation and chemo therapy.

7. The fact that he plays for a loser franchise like the Knicks is so fitting, because he's a loser.

 

[Daa Bearrs]

F Melo, I want Paul George!

But... but.... Paul George doesn't score Da Points and take Da shots He's not Da SuperStar!!!!!!!

 

[Axl Rose]

LeBron? Harden? lol

Durant/Melo is arguable....but melo has a better post game which kinda makes his offensive arsenal better

 

[Daa Bearrs]

LeBron? Harden? lol

Durant/Melo is arguable....but melo has a better post game which kinda makes his offensive arsenal better

Lebron is so far ahead of Melo as a scorer that to "lol" at that shows how absolutely little you know about the game of basketball. Harden is also significantly better. I don't care about "offensive arsenal" I care about results. Next you're going to tell me that Melo is a better scorer than Shaq because of his "offensive arsenal".

It doesn't matter how someone gets the ball in the hoop, it only matters that they do (and on good efficiency, in which Lebron, Durant, and Harden rape Melo)

 

[Axl Rose]

yes, melo is a more skilled scorer than Bron/Shaq

LeBron/Shaq get their points off shear strength more than skill...melo does it off skill

now harden is a very crafty scorer but i dont think hes quite on melos level

 

[scottiepippen1994]

pretty much unless nikola is as good as advertised and that bobcats pick pans out

i think we'll ultimately end up resigning Deng at 12per...best thing we can hope for is its only 3 years and not 5

welp, so much for the championship thing then.

 

[Daa Bearrs]

yes, melo is a more skilled scorer than Bron/Shaq

LeBron/Shaq get their points off shear strength more than skill...melo does it off skill

now harden is a very crafty scorer but i dont think hes quite on melos level

But why do you care about skill? All that matters is results. Iverson was incredibly skilled but horribly inefficient. If you want to argue that Melo is a more "skilled" scorer than whoever than fine, but that is completely irrelevant to the impact a player has on the team.

I mean hell, there are probably some people on this very board who are more "skilled" than Shaq was, are we also better scorers? Again, I just don't understand what "skill" has to do with anything.

 

[Raskolnikov]

Thank Allah that YOU are not the gm.

So basically you wouldnt want 1 of the top 3 scorers in the entire NBA on your team? Really?
Ill bet youare one of those idiots that wouldnt want Lebron(the best player in the NBA) on your team either i suppose.

Okay, suit yourself.

not the same at all, Lebron is one of the best team players in the NBA....not one of, he is the best all around basketball player. While Melo is a dysfunctional scorer. Like someone said above, I wouldn't want him for a minimum contract. SERIOUS!!!!! He stops ball flow, he overshoots, and he isn't very good at defense other than being strong and flashing when he isn't tired or lazy or slow in his lateral movement and reactions. He can trail and block, but not like Scottie Pippen or Luol Deng.

Wouldn't want him. Don't care about his points because his shot volume is outrageous, and his off nights are brutal. Why take the ball out of the hands of the best point guard in the league? Surround Rose with shooters, defenders, and rebounding...(like they are doing), and stay away from Melo.

I won't ever talk about this again, because its a pipe dream anyway, thank god only Scottie's and Housy's and a few other sheets are wet.

 

[Axl Rose]

oh so were talking about who has more impact now?

melo has a better skillset and that makes him a better scorer...but would i take him over shaq/bron? no

 

[Raskolnikov]

Also, Danny Granger is a very intelligent player who would fit into our team schemes and attitudes well. If we lost Deng, he would be decent consolation at hopefully less than a max contract which I doubt we could afford. If we are talking about Deng walking to the biggest contract, and we could develop Snell/Butler while adding Granger/Miro to the mix, it would change us but it would be hard to say if we would be better or worse. Deng/Miro and a tenth overall pick from the bobcats plus Snell in year two and Butler an all-star-------future is bright guys. Relax