WCSF: Wild vs. Blackhawks (SERIES DISCUSSION)

Who will win this matchup?

  • Blackhawks in 7

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  • Blackhawks in 6

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  • Blackhawks in 5

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  • Blackhawks in 4

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  • Wild in 4

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  • Wild in 5

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  • Wild in 6

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  • Wild in 7

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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Grimsäväinen" data-cid="228401" data-time="1399068667">
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It's shouldn't be, I agree.  But for whatever reason it's widely "allowed" if you know what I mean.  Makes no sense.</p>
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It's the latent homosexuality inherent in ice hockey.</p>
 

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Is this boring piece of shit series over yet?</p>


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Can we just let the Kings and Ducks battle out for who will play the champs?</p>


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I don't even want to bother with these weird sounding minnesota ****.</p>
 

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Oh Yaaaa!?!?! -.-</p>
 

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It's not garage league


And not every hit - knee on knee even - is suspension worthy, regardless of who does it


But this is what the pussification does...now everyone wants everything suspended...And has ruined the game making is lame</p></blockquote>


I'm so glad you're back. Now I'm not the only one who has to take on these topics and get ganged up on by the Sally's who don't understand.
 

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Unfortunately the pussification has won out, and they'll keep digging and digging until it will be no checking, and football will go down to 7 players on the field/no touching quarterbacks, etc


Once they started with suspensions, now the suspensions weren't long enough. Then it will be fighting..then it will be the talking on the ice. It never ends with the bleeding hearts


Seabrook's hit never should have been a suspension. They got a 5min pp, won the playoff game. There's the penalty. Backes was knocked out not because Seabrook targeted the head. He was knocked out when the back of his head hit the boards on his way down. That hit happens every game several times..but the timing, spacing was the unfortunate part. But media went crazy and someone had to 'be at fault' and wanted more more more. Funny, Backes didn't hold much of a.grudge
 

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Since when should the outcome of the game determine supplementary discipline? Thats insane.
 

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Since when does how hurt someone is or how long they lay on the ice determine how long a suspension should be
 

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Since when should some or that never played a sport tell the people who do play what's right and wrong...what they see or how they react in split second time


Its fantastic to be able to split something frame by frame and crybhead shot because a shoulder glances him. Then go on to claim intent based on fractions of a second


Look, you won...everything is reviewed and suspended. No go the **** away pussy
 

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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="pmxcodano" data-cid="228374" data-time="1399056796">

Was Bickell's knee on knee the most gutless act ever as well?</p></blockquote>

How can you seriously equate a knee on knee (which usually is at last partly a result of a player being faked out by a deke) with picking a foot up off the ice an coming down stomping on the back of a guy's leg so hard you slice all the way through connective tissue?
 

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Because the possibility of internationally in one motion...full speed..finishing a hit and thinking - I am now going to get my skate blade precisely between the sock, skate, and any padding to bare skin to cut a tendon - is a reach for any player, regardless of what you think of him
 

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I guess Steve Tuttle should have been charged for attempted murder
 

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How can you seriously equate a knee on knee (which usually is at last partly a result of a player being faked out by a deke) with picking a foot up off the ice an coming down stomping on the back of a guy's leg so hard you slice all the way through connective tissue?</p></blockquote>


There was no intent on that Karlsson hit. I proved with specific USA hockey information how Cooke was trying to pin Karlsson and that the follow through was accidental and not intentional. He was not trying to slice his leg, but pin his own foot between Karlssons legs to complete the pinning of a player on the boards.
 

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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="pmxcodano" data-cid="228474" data-time="1399141380">


Unfortunately the pussification has won out, and they'll keep digging and digging until it will be no checking, and football will go down to 7 players on the field/no touching quarterbacks, etc


Once they started with suspensions, now the suspensions weren't long enough. Then it will be fighting..then it will be the talking on the ice. It never ends with the bleeding hearts


Seabrook's hit never should have been a suspension. They got a 5min pp, won the playoff game. There's the penalty. Backes was knocked out not because Seabrook targeted the head. He was knocked out when the back of his head hit the boards on his way down. That hit happens every game several times..but the timing, spacing was the unfortunate part. But media went crazy and someone had to 'be at fault' and wanted more more more. Funny, Backes didn't hold much of a.grudge</p></blockquote>


I will say I disagree with the opinion of no suspension, but I've been down this route before with others. He wasn't head hunting, but it wasn't a clean hit either.
 

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Every penalty on the ice isn't a clean hit...hence the reason for a penalty
 

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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="pmxcodano" data-cid="228483" data-time="1399144769">
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Since when does how hurt someone is or how long they lay on the ice determine how long a suspension should be</p>
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Its fantastic to be able to split something frame by frame and crybhead shot because a shoulder glances him. Then go on to claim intent based on fractions of a second


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Alright, you've been gone a while, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.</p>


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I never said any of that. I said the opposite as far as the intent of what Seabrook was trying to. I don't think he was trying to knock Backes out. But you still can't make that hit on a player in a defenseless position like that. So his suspension was deserved. Just because they won the game makes no difference as to whether or not he should get suspended, that's fucking crazy. There's no other argument needed for that, it's just fucking crazy to think like that.</p>


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The problem the NHL has isn't that they are suspending more players, it's the consistency in their suspensions. I mean, it has to be done, whether you believe it or not. With as much is being learned and has been learned about head trauma and concussions alone, a standard has to be set by the league. They just aren't consistent with it. If 3 games is the base line, the first punishment for a guy like Seabrook, who had no past history of doing things like that, that's fine. But that's not how they go about doing it when they still give repeat offenders the same amount or nothing whatsoever. That's the real problem. Not that they're suspending players, but the consistency in them.</p>
 

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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="pmxcodano" data-cid="228494" data-time="1399152765">


Every penalty on the ice isn't a clean hit...hence the reason for a penalty</p></blockquote>


True, but certain actions need supplemental penalties due to their severity. That hit on Backes was not a routine check. Individuals need to know that doing that will not be tolerated.


Trust me, I have some old school views on the game, but if you take out suspensions, you might as well take out the instigator and allow line brawls because the game will get ugly.


(I sound like Variable. Must go take scalding hot shower and scrub till the feeling goes away.)
 

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Variable...I've been around the game a few years...don't humor yourself to think you need to give me the benefit of any doubt


You're extremely delusional to what happens on the ice/bench/locker rooms during the game so its useless having any discussion with you. My comments are in conversation with trev
 

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You're saying suspensions should pend on who wins the game and I'm delusional. Phew. That's uh, yeah. Wow.</p>
 
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