We need to clear some things up on here

[Broc]

I will never reply to another thread of yours until you prove to me that you can count to 10.

LOL brilliant rebuttal. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. Feel free to refute any of my arguments now. I'll wait...

 

[theOHIOSTATE!]

LOL...comparing Cutler to a 2nd year QB

He was 7th in total QBR in 2013 against EVERY OTHER STARTING QB.

He played well in 2013 as did McCown in limited duty.

Go ahead and spin it...remember I never said he was the 7th best QB; I just said he had a solid yr at QB, and obviously he did which is why you're scrambling to argue everything but that point.

 

[onebud34]

1 Peyton Manning, DEN 124.5 -13.9 6.6 -2.2 0.0 -9.4 -3.8 147.2 86.8 82.9
2 Philip Rivers, SD 103.5 -16.9 5.1 -1.6 0.2 -14.6 -1.6 98.7 45.2 71.7
3 Drew Brees, NO 113.0 -17.6 1.4 3.1 3.6 -22.1 -2.6 111.0 49.1 70.5
4 Nick Foles, PHI 48.1 -2.9 3.4 5.3 6.5 -14.6 -1.8 59.2 25.0 69.0
5 Aaron Rodgers, GB 46.4 -8.0 4.0 6.9 7.0 -12.5 -2.4 49.9 20.8 68.7
6 Colin Kaepernick, SF 71.1 -9.6 1.4 18.6 14.4 -21.8 -1.1 80.9 33.7 68.6
7 Jay Cutler, CHI 63.9 -19.7 -1.9 6.0 5.8 -8.6 -2.5 53.7 20.6 66.4
8 Andrew Luck, IND 52.1 -9.0 -0.2 21.2 21.1 -19.2 -2.2 83.0 25.6 62.0
9 Matt Ryan, ATL 100.8 -20.9 -2.6 4.0 4.9 -25.4 -3.2 87.1 25.4 61.1
10 Tom Brady, NE 87.5 -10.4 -0.3 1.6 3.6 -24.5 -2.7 84.2 24.5 61.1
RK PLAYER EXP PASS EPA INT EPA YAC EPA RUN EPA SCRAM EPA EXP SACK EPA FUM EPA QB PAR QB PAA TOTAL QBR
11 Tony Romo, DAL 84.6 -16.3 0.8 0.8 2.3 -20.2 -1.2 69.2 18.0 59.5
12 Russell Wilson, SEA 69.9 -7.9 0.6 11.6 13.1 -25.4 -3.6 64.2 15.9 58.9
13 Cam Newton, CAR 66.8 -16.1 1.2 21.0 21.5 -30.3 -1.7 63.7 11.7 56.2
14 Andy Dalton, CIN 84.7 -30.4 0.9 4.6 3.5 -15.2 -2.1 69.2 12.2 55.8
15 Ryan Fitzpatrick, TEN 50.3 -15.0 0.3 10.4 10.8 -12.3 -5.1 42.1 7.0 55.4
16 Ben Roethlisberger, PIT 77.8 -14.0 1.3 -0.9 2.5 -22.4 -5.8 62.3 8.4 54.3
17 Matthew Stafford, DET 89.0 -31.4 4.6 -1.5 2.9 -12.4 -6.8 64.2 5.6 52.6
18 Carson Palmer, ARI 95.4 -32.5 -2.5 -2.2 -1.2 -20.9 -3.1 58.6 3.8 51.9
19 Alex Smith, KC 54.4 -9.6 1.5 8.7 9.1 -22.2 -3.4 52.9 -1.1 49.4
20 Joe Flacco, BAL 70.2 -26.6 -3.4 10.8 10.2 -27.0 -3.3 53.6 -7.3 46.7
RK PLAYER EXP PASS EPA INT EPA YAC EPA RUN EPA SCRAM EPA EXP SACK EPA FUM EPA QB PAR QB PAA TOTAL QBR
21 Ryan Tannehill, MIA 87.3 -19.6 -2.6 3.7 5.9 -33.4 -7.0 48.2 -8.8 45.8
22 Mike Glennon, TB 56.4 -10.1 -4.8 -1.2 1.5 -23.5 -4.5 36.2 -6.9 45.6
23 EJ Manuel, BUF 33.5 -8.5 -1.4 2.8 4.1 -14.1 -4.5 23.6 -9.4 42.3
24 Robert Griffin, WSH 55.6 -15.5 -0.2 -0.4 3.2 -19.4 -8.8 31.5 -18.1 40.1
25 Jason Campbell, CLE 23.6 -8.7 -0.9 5.5 5.5 -9.0 -0.8 17.4 -12.7 38.6
26 Matt Schaub, HOU 45.8 -22.8 -4.0 0.3 0.9 -10.4 -1.3 17.4 -15.7 37.3
27 Eli Manning, NYG 75.5 -37.4 -4.8 0.2 2.0 -22.7 -2.1 25.9 -26.2 36.5
28 Geno Smith, NYJ 55.2 -28.1 -0.2 9.3 12.0 -24.0 -9.4 22.6 -25.1 35.9
29 Chad Henne, JAX 35.4 -14.9 1.3 -1.6 1.5 -18.6 -0.4 15.2 -34.1 31.9
30 Terrelle Pryor, OAK 21.9 -10.4 0.1 11.3 5.1 -14.6 -3.9 8.4 -25.3 30.5
RK PLAYER EXP PASS EPA INT EPA YAC EPA RUN EPA SCRAM EPA EXP SACK EPA FUM EPA QB PAR QB PAA TOTAL QBR
31 Brandon Weeden, CLE 33.0 -12.5 -3.8 0.7 0.3 -14.7 -2.5 -0.4 -27.2 24.7

Ah...the old QBR...I mean new QBR.

 

[didshereallysaythat]

LOL brilliant rebuttal. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. Feel free to refute any of my arguments now. I'll wait...

I think Ohio State did a good enough job in this case.

You might as well not compare Cutler to McCown anymore just for wasting time if nothing else. Cutler is on the team and McCown is not. It is irrelevant how McCown played in 2013 now.

 

[onebud34]

I prefer to use this method

So...I stand corrected...he was marginally above average in 2013

 

[onebud34]

I think Ohio State did a good enough job in this case.

You might as well not compare Cutler to McCown anymore just for wasting time if nothing else. Cutler is on the team and McCown is not. It is irrelevant how McCown played in 2013 now.

But Cutler is playing the same as he did in 2013.

Unless one is hoping for a fluke and for him to play well this season. He'll be the same he's always been.

 

[sevvy]

It's amazing that you cunts are still talking about this.

 

[Broc]

Or more than 6 before we talk about things being proven....

You might have a point if I was actually trying to base my argument solely around the 6 games McCown played in 2013.

 

[onebud34]

It's amazing that you cunts are still talking about this.

It's cunting Wednesday...

Once someone shows me what happens when you **** a stranger in the ass...we can go back to talking about Tom Brady

 

[didshereallysaythat]

But Cutler is playing the same as he did in 2013.

Unless one is hoping for a fluke and for him to play well this season. He'll be the same he's always been.

Yes, we all know he is an average QB.

 

[theOHIOSTATE!]

You might have a point if I was actually trying to base my argument solely around the 6 games McCown played in 2013.

G-d knows/cares wth you're talking about lately.

I asserted that Cutler had a solid/decent yr in 2013, and that was irrespective of McCown's 6 games.

Now I have onebud admitting he played abover average for a starter....close enough for me.

Anything more than that, I just don't care to talk about tbh ITT. Cutler is a mediocre QB who has a tendency to turn the ball over too much. He has a nice yr in 2013 and then regressed a bit in 2014 and seemed to struggle with accuracy down the field a bit. I fully expect someone will be brought in in the next yr or so to replace him in the medium run and hope that person will excel beyond what Cutler has been able to do.

If anyone is really upset by me saying those things they aren't looking at the situation objectively.

 

[Broc]

It is irrelevant how McCown played in 2013 now.

It's actually completely relevant since the only reason I mention it is to highlight the fact that Trestman's system works perfectly fine when the QB actually runs it the way it's supposed to be run.

 

[sevvy]

It's cunting Wednesday...

Once someone shows me what happens when you **** a stranger in the ass...we can go back to talking about Tom Brady

You see what happens, Larry!?

 

[Broc]

G-d knows/cares wth you're talking about lately..

It's pretty simple really. I disagree with the Cutler homers that continue to scapegoat everything onto Trestman and his system.

If you can't follow along with the discussion then you probably shouldn't participate, just saying.

 

[theOHIOSTATE!]

It's actually completely relevant since the only reason I mention it is to highlight the fact that Trestman's system works perfectly fine when the QB actually runs it the way it's supposed to be run.

If you actually believe that a 6 game run PROVES you can perpetually run a certain system against NFL defenses with all sorts of changing dynamics as to what pieces/health your offense has and which defenses you are facing as well as the fact that the best minds in the sport all are able to watch more and more tape over a longer period to diagnose what you're actually running, you might be beyond help.

It's pretty simple really. I disagree with the Cutler homers that continue to scapegoat everything onto Trestman and his system.

If you can't follow along with the discussion then you probably shouldn't participate, just saying.

I am not a Cutler homer and I think he looked horrible last yr throwing the ball down the field and often unnecessarily threw into coverage.

I am fairly certain I can keep up with your thought processes lol....lol lol lol lol......oh goodness.

 

[jc456]

It's cunting Wednesday...

Once someone shows me what happens when you **** a stranger in the ass...we can go back to talking about Tom Brady

no class.

 

[onebud34]

no class.

Larry...this is what happens when you **** a stranger in the ass!

 

[didshereallysaythat]

It's actually completely relevant since the only reason I mention it is to highlight the fact that Trestman's system works perfectly fine when the QB actually runs it the way it's supposed to be run.

And here we go again with you not understanding sample size.

 

[jc456]

So are you attributing the losses the Bears had with McCown as QB to McCown? Because that would contradict you saying this earlier in this very thread

ah, I see how you did that.

 

[jc456]

Because he had the same tools to work with as Cutler?

Minus the rocket arm

old news.