We Should Have Tanked

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Good grief! You've got to be kidding me with this crap!

What crap? Are you expecting someone better with the 16th and 19th picks overall? Obtaining the guys I mentioned are doable, with the possible exception of Payne who could be gone. It wouldn't take much to move up for him though.
 

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I don't see the controversy or the reason for disagreement.

Instead of posturing, you should be revisiting your Deng comments and contemplate how it's not an example of throwing out the baby with the bath water. You still haven't supplied a suitable explanation. I'm still not sure if you're familiar with what the expression means or if you're just simply really poor at coming up with relevant examples--or both.

WTF are you talking about now? Playing Taj over Boozer in the 4th quarter did not hurt out depth at PF. Teams regularly play their best squad in the 4th, and Boozer doesn't fit that description. His poor defense, clumsy turnovers and streaky 16 footers are a liability late in close games. Atleast Taj will scrap and grind for rebounds and put backs. And he he doesn't commit unforced turnovers every time he touches the damn ball like Boozer does.
 

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WTF are you talking about now? Playing Taj over Boozer in the 4th quarter did not hurt out depth at PF. Teams regularly play their best squad in the 4th, and Boozer doesn't fit that description. His poor defense, clumsy turnovers and streaky 16 footers are a liability late in close games. Atleast Taj will scrap and grind for rebounds and put backs. And he he doesn't commit unforced turnovers every time he touches the damn ball like Boozer does.

My comment was a knock on Boozer. Try to keep up.
 

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What crap? Are you expecting someone better with the 16th and 19th picks overall? Obtaining the guys I mentioned are doable, with the possible exception of Payne who could be gone. It wouldn't take much to move up for him though.

You're the one who said these super players are out there and then you trot these names out there as examples.
 

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You're the one who said these super players are out there and then you trot these names out there as examples.

Oooh, haha. I thought you were actually trying to express an opinion, but you're just being a douche. Well played.
 

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Ennis? ehhhh i 'd go with naiper if we go with a PG since his style fits better

really I think taking a pg is a waste of a pick....its the richest postion in the league....you can find some good decent backups for cheap like we have these past 2 years
 

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Ennis? ehhhh i 'd go with naiper if we go with a PG since his style fits better

really I think taking a pg is a waste of a pick....its the richest postion in the league....you can find some good decent backups for cheap like we have these past 2 years
Agreed. We need offensive minded players at the 2 & 3.
 

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Point guard is the weakest position in the draft and scrubs already in the NBA are pretty much better than anyone in the draft. They need SG, SF, and a big man, pretty much in that order.
 

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Point guard is the weakest position in the draft and scrubs already in the NBA are pretty much better than anyone in the draft. They need SG, SF, and a big man, pretty much in that order.

The best thing they could do is draft a ball handler with some versatility. If they're going to keep their pick(s) and go that route, they should draft LaVine and forget about a PG.
 

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Agreed. We need offensive minded players at the 2 & 3.

We don't need to spend anymore picks on a 2 or 3. We have Butler and Snell, who need minutes to develop.

The Bulls need a solid backup or potential starter at PF and PG (unless they elect to keep DJ around ($$$)).

Mirotic and/or Taj will be apart of any trade package for Melo or Love, Boozer and Hinrich should be gone.
 

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We don't need to spend anymore picks on a 2 or 3. We have Butler and Snell, who need minutes to develop.

The Bulls need a solid backup or potential starter at PF and PG (unless they elect to keep DJ around ($$$)).

Mirotic and/or Taj will be apart of any trade package for Melo or Love, Boozer and Hinrich should be gone.


Oh we definitely should focus on SG & SF! We got Taj and Mirotic at the PF spot which is all right. I also have a feeling that we somehow bring D.J. back.

Neither Snell or Butler are ball handlers who are good at creating their own shot. That's the issue with this team ...
 

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Oh we definitely should focus on SG & SF! We got Taj and Mirotic at the PF spot which is all right. I also have a feeling that we somehow bring D.J. back.

Neither Snell or Butler are ball handlers who are good at creating their own shot. That's the issue with this team ...

Dude, how you gonna reply to my comment and not read a word of it.

If the Bulls pull off a trade for a star player, they're not going to be able to keep Taj and Mirotic. One or both of them will be gone if we get Melo or Love. Boozer should be gone as well. Also, if we draft another damn 2/3, how does Snell get minutes?
Also, Butler is very good at creating his own shots if you let him start and give him the damn ball. Snell is an unknown at this point. He needs minutes before we can say what he is or isn't.
 

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Also, Butler is very good at creating his own shots if you let him start and give him the damn ball.

No he really isn't. He is really good at being one of the worst offensive starters on the wing in the NBA.
 

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We don't need to spend anymore picks on a 2 or 3. We have Butler and Snell, who need minutes to develop.

The Bulls need a solid backup or potential starter at PF and PG (unless they elect to keep DJ around ($$$)).

Mirotic and/or Taj will be apart of any trade package for Melo or Love, Boozer and Hinrich should be gone.


No way. Production out of the SG and SF positions was abysmal for this team. Snell is likely to be traded and Butler needs to continue to improve.
 

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Dude, how you gonna reply to my comment and not read a word of it.

If the Bulls pull off a trade for a star player, they're not going to be able to keep Taj and Mirotic. One or both of them will be gone if we get Melo or Love. Boozer should be gone as well. Also, if we draft another damn 2/3, how does Snell get minutes?
Also, Butler is very good at creating his own shots if you let him start and give him the damn ball. Snell is an unknown at this point. He needs minutes before we can say what he is or isn't.

I don't think anything happens with Melo or Love before the draft. Melo will probably be the last player to make his decision and if Love gets traded, that will be one day before the trade deadline in February.

So you can't count on any of your star players.


Butler is a good shot creator? Didn't see that when he started and played nearly 40 minutes per game last season.
 

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I'm telling you guys Butler can and will be a scorer. The Bulls need to give him starts and let him build his confidence.

Snell needs time and minutes to develop physically and learn the game. Trading him would be idiotic and nonsensical.
 

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No he really isn't. He is really good at being one of the worst offensive starters on the wing in the NBA.

Stats support your theory...but he needs a better PG than Hinrich or Augustine to play with IMO. If he has a terrible season with Rose or an actual PG....then I'll agree.

Hinrich is one of the worst offensive PGs I've ever seen.
 

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Stats support your theory...but he needs a better PG than Hinrich or Augustine to play with IMO. If he has a terrible season with Rose or an actual PG....then I'll agree.

Hinrich is one of the worst offensive PGs I've ever seen.

He´s not aggressive or focused enough to score his own points like most PGs are. But he is very good in keeping the offense moving. He doesn´t lead the league in hockey assists by accident.
 

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The Bulls need to give him starts and let him build his confidence.
Um...he started all of last season and in the playoffs played basically every minute of every game for the past two season. How much more time does he need?
 

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I'm telling you guys Butler can and will be a scorer. The Bulls need to give him starts and let him build his confidence.

Snell needs time and minutes to develop physically and learn the game. Trading him would be idiotic and nonsensical.

Lol...totally disagree. I think that is a very inaccurate statement, especially when you don't know who is coming back in the deal.
 

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