We should sign one of Bosh/Dirk/LeBron or Wade. NO ONE ELSE.

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Not worries. If you sign him, they will come...
 

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If we're going to have any chance at Bosh/LeBron, Miller WILL be back and so will A LOT of veteran players or scrubs.

It's pretty much impossible for us to land Bosh/LeBron but hey, I hope it works.
 

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I wouldnt say impossible but its going to be pretty tough. IF LeBron and Bosh are truly serious about winning, both will be here with a pay cut.

The hardest part about getting both will be moving Deng. If we can manage to get him out, i will feel confident in moving Hinrich and bringing them both in.
 

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we only need to move one of deng/hinrich.

i think that you guys would be surprised. even if it's not a sign and trade, we might even be able to trade deng to a team like the clippers who have cap room but no chance in hell of getting a big name free agent. as well, they need a solid SF and one who doesn't need the ball could be good for them.
 

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We only need to move one of them for what?

IDK why people sleep on the Clippers. They have a good group of players with Griffen coming off Injury.
 

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we only need to move one of deng/hinrich.

i think that you guys would be surprised. even if it's not a sign and trade, we might even be able to trade deng to a team like the clippers who have cap room but no chance in hell of getting a big name free agent. as well, they need a solid SF and one who doesn't need the ball could be good for them.
We need to move both Deng/Hinrich to get LeBron/Bosh.

And why would the Clippers have no chance of getting a big name free agent? It's a huge market, and they can play with Davis, a young Gordon and a pretty good big man in Kaman.
 

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to fit two max FAs

because they're the clippers. lebron would not be the biggest player in the city. it's a kobe city.

plus the clippers are like the ugly stepsister of the lakers.

if you can't be the biggest in your city, how can you be the best ever? plus sterling is absolutely terrible as a person and an owner.
 

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I wouldnt say impossible but its going to be pretty tough. IF LeBron and Bosh are truly serious about winning, both will be here with a pay cut.

The hardest part about getting both will be moving Deng. If we can manage to get him out, i will feel confident in moving Hinrich and bringing them both in.

Very very true but I don't think they're willing. ESPECIALLY after Bosh gave the Raptors his top 5 teams to trade to. So that he can get a bigger contract worth around $30-35 more million than other teams could get him.

If he was serious about winning, he would sit down with LeBron and say "Hey, let's play together. I'll cut this much money, you cut this much and let's dominate"

But they won't. LeBron wants to be a sports billionaire and Bosh already stated he wants the max.
 

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it's a SHARED big market.

you'd at maximum need to only take off like an extra million in a sign and trade for bosh. that's it. give them taj then.
 

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to fit two max FAs

because they're the clippers. lebron would not be the biggest player in the city. it's a kobe city.

plus the clippers are like the ugly stepsister of the lakers.

if you can't be the biggest in your city, how can you be the best ever? plus sterling is absolutely terrible as a person and an owner.

Wrong, we need to trade both of them. If we only traded one of them, we'd be $2-4 million short from a max contract.
 

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Bron can be a billionaire in due time. His contract wont get him there. Winning championships in big markets and endorsements will, as will investments.

Also on the LeBron in LA thing. Maybe LeBron is up to the challenge on making LA his city? I wouldnt doubt it with his competitive nature.
 

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it's a SHARED big market.

you'd at maximum need to only take off like an extra million in a sign and trade for bosh. that's it. give them taj then.

OMG man. You realize the Raptors will get a lot better offers than Taj Gibson right? This isn't NBA 2K.
 

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Bron can be a billionaire in due time. His contract wont get him there. Winning championships in big markets and endorsements will, as will investments.

Also on the LeBron in LA thing. Maybe LeBron is up to the challenge on making LA his city? I wouldnt doubt it with his competitive nature.
I agree but you have to wonder if LeBron is thinking like that.


And lol at LeBron being scared or whatever of playing in Kobe's town.


So LeBron wouldn't be scared to play in MJ's city/shadow, but he would be scared to play in Kobe's? lol
 

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ok. look. this is a sign and trade. bosh gets options. the raptors don't. we could give them two first round picks next year. what are teams gonna give the raptors? beasley's going nowhere. the knicks have no assets. the nets have no tradeable assets.
 

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ok go to thebullspodcasters.com. there's a podcast called the chicago bullseye. the last podcast is an interview between them and a bulls fan living in orange county who used to work for the clippers. listen to it.
 

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I think Taj is better than anything Miami has to offer. Dont think they would want Curry. But again i think theres more teams than just the listed 4 outside of TOR.
 

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the wizards have no assets. the clippers have no tradeable assets. beasley is the only other player on miami, they won't trade him. new york has no assets. new jersey has no assets. who else is there???
 

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ok. look. this is a sign and trade. bosh gets options. the raptors don't. we could give them two first round picks next year. what are teams gonna give the raptors? beasley's going nowhere. the knicks have no assets. the nets have no tradeable assets.

The Knicks could sign and trade Lee for Bosh. Both teams get what they want there. Lee is better than anything we could offer.

And Bosh said he's going where LeBron is going. So let's say LeBron comes here. How do we get Bosh here with the huge contracts?

Is Bosh going to tell the Raptors GM "HEY TRADE FOR HINRICH/DENG OR I'M LEAVING TO CHICAGO ANYWAY"................BUT WAIT, HE CAN'T COME HERE SINCE WE DON'T HAVE THE CAP TO LAND HIM. So why would the Raptors even listen to us.

Bosh wants to come here, sure. But he'd rather go where LeBron goes and that's not here. Face the facts, we can't get rid of Deng's and Hinrich's contract.

LeBron will be the first player to sign a contract, if he signs here. We aren't getting Bosh. If he signs to the Knicks, we aren't getting Bosh again because Bosh will go there.
 

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Miami would trade Beasley, the thing is, there is probably no one who wants him, his bad attitude and his inconsistent play. They would trade him because it could bring them one step closer to signing two more max guys outside of Wade but they still would have to get rid of Jones and Anthony and i forget who else.
 

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