We're totally trading up for Trey Lance.

[Leomaz]

True but if Lance has what it takes between the ears then he could be better than what Trubsiky was projected to be by many before he was drafted. But yes it would be a huge dart throw to draft T.Lance whether we traded up for him or if he was sitting there at #20 and we drafted him there. If all these "draft experts" and football people talk this guy up around draft time thinking he's gonna be a good one then i'm all for drafting him or trading up for him depending what we'd have to give up to trade up.

All these kids have plenty of talent but the thing that can't be predicted is what's between the ears and that's a huge part of making it in the NFL. If the kid can come into the NFL and play with confidence then that's one of the biggest hurdles to jump to be able to make it.

If you trade away draft currency especially from next year when we are going to be drafting pretty high what is the point? Now your stuck with a quarterback and he has no surrounding cast or a defense. Seems like mediocrity is what people want.

 

[Chicago4Life]

Have you ever seen a GM more desperate than Pace right now?

He needs something to cling on to. Whether it’s a top veteran QB changing teams like Stafford or hope in a top QB prospect.

Rams went from 15 to 1 to get Goff.

If either Wilson or Fields falls out of the top 3, I see Pace swinging for the fences.

for wilson maybe its worth it but not sure about fields...OSU's track record of producing nfl quality qb's is ridiculously bad...

knowing pace he prob does trade up and take fields...sigh...

 

[WindyCity]

They are making a desperation move at QB. I doubt they can get into the top 5 form 20. But 5-10 seems realistic.

 

[Midway Fields]

for wilson maybe its worth it but not sure about fields...OSU's track record of producing nfl quality qb's is ridiculously bad...

knowing pace he prob does trade up and take fields...sigh...

So was Texas Tech’s track record before Mahomes, Cal’s track record before Rodgers, etc.

I don’t think your getting a better top 3 QB class than this for a while. I love both Wilson and Fields and flip flop on who I like more. Fields has the pedigree coming from high school and has backed it up. Wilson looks like Rodgers. For me Wilson is 1A Fields is 1B.

 

[SD Bears Fan]

One thing Pace has proven is that he will trade up. He is a sucker, a fool, and has no patience. Wish Emery had this mindset during the Donald draft.

The part I remember is the Bears getting a couple of meaningless wins that year that prevented us from getting Donald. Kind of like this year...............

 

[Visionman]

All this talk of what the Bears would look like if they had Watson and whether they'd win more, etc.----I think Bears fans would be shocked at how good a HOF-level quarterback immediately makes your team. Yes, the Texans sucked this year, but the Bears are a lot better than the Texans. It would basically turn the Bears into a perennial playoff team.

If you think Watson is a HOF level QB, I would rather trust Nagy making the decision than you...

 

[TexasBearfan]

imagine the comments during the draft show when this clown car org moves up into the top 10 for another QB

 

[rawdawg]

I love Lance, and I would love to trade up for him for the long-term of the franchise. But he's the exact opposite of what Nagy wants at QB. He'd have to run a similar offense to what he ran the last 6-7 weeks with Trubisky, and we saw against the 2 good teams and heard from the press conference that Nagy doesn't really want to run that offense. He wants to run that offense he did with Foles with a better QB. Lance is probably a better QB, but probably not at what Nagy wants him to be better at.

 

[dabears70]

If you trade away draft currency especially from next year when we are going to be drafting pretty high what is the point? Now your stuck with a quarterback and he has no surrounding cast or a defense. Seems like mediocrity is what people want.

How are we not gonna have a surrounding cast or defense next year? We already have a defense and if all we have to replace is ARob (who we could keep by tag or re-signing) then why can't we just replace him and make a couple other moves to get this team right? We aren't far away from being a good team and if we get a legit QB then we're even closer. It's not like we'd be trading every pick we have to move up either and Pace has proven to be really fucking good with his mid and mater round picks.

I don't wanna trade draft picks either but we have to get a damn legit QB on this team and we can't do that without trying.

 

[roadwarrior_joe]

They are making a desperation move at QB. I doubt they can get into the top 5 form 20. But 5-10 seems realistic.

if this turns out to be the case, then some GM from another team is going to walk away from rape with the courts approval.

 

[dabears70]

If you think Watson is a HOF level QB, I would rather trust Nagy making the decision than you...

Watson is my #1 option as well but i do not think they have any plans at all to trade him. I think they'll make things right with him and move forward with him.

 

[Montucky]

How are we not gonna have a surrounding cast or defense next year? We already have a defense and if all we have to replace is ARob (who we could keep by tag or re-signing) then why can't we just replace him and make a couple other moves to get this team right? We aren't far away from being a good team and if we get a legit QB then we're even closer. It's not like we'd be trading every pick we have to move up either and Pace has proven to be really fucking good with his mid and mater round picks.

I don't wanna trade draft picks either but we have to get a damn legit QB on this team and we can't do that without trying.

There are huge issues with the pass rush and safeties.

Both Mack and Quinn were pretty disappointing, and if Pace is to be believed (I do not see why he would lie about this) Mack has had his third straight season of dealing with injuries. I do think Khalil Mack is starting to break down. Robert Quinn is already broken down. Mingo played well but not fantastic, and he's a free agent anyways so it does not really matter.

Teshaun Gipson is a free agent, so kiss him goodbye probably. Eddie Jackson is garbage now, he fell off a cliff. The Bears only hope is that he bounces back because his cap hit makes it impossible to get rid of him or bury him on the depth chart. Safety depth isn't bad, but nobody who is starter quality.

There's also the Akiem Hicks cap hit issue and Danny Trevathan's age.

Still I'm more optimistic than most about the Bears, but the defense is not in a good way. I'm way more hopeful about the offense going forward.

 

[Leomaz]

How are we not gonna have a surrounding cast or defense next year? We already have a defense and if all we have to replace is ARob (who we could keep by tag or re-signing) then why can't we just replace him and make a couple other moves to get this team right? We aren't far away from being a good team and if we get a legit QB then we're even closer. It's not like we'd be trading every pick we have to move up either and Pace has proven to be really fucking good with his mid and mater round picks.

I don't wanna trade draft picks either but we have to get a damn legit QB on this team and we can't do that without trying.

I think thoses question have all been answered by the play on the field, the questionable deals and contracts giving out by the GM, the horrendous coaching by Nagy.
The defense is freaking old. The offense is atrocious. The GM is clueless.
Foles was a super bowl winning quarterback when he got here.....he is a back up that isn’t as good s Mitch....say those words out loud and see if you have a good feeling.
We are not going to go to the playoffs next year, we are going to be mediocre to bad again.
Stop this fantasy thing you have going on.

We are not a great football team.....and will not be for the foreseeable future if they think keeping Pace and Nagy was a good idea

 

[msadows]

They are making a desperation move at QB. I doubt they can get into the top 5 form 20. But 5-10 seems realistic.

The rams went from 15 to #1.

Going from #20 to #3 is not that out of question. Would probably cost two firsts and two seconds, but yea.....

 

[WindyCity]

The rams went from 15 to #1.

Going from #20 to #3 is not that out of question. Would probably cost two firsts and two seconds, but yea.....

It cost the Rams

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I think you are in the ball park of what it would cost.

You also need teams at 8 and 12 not to make similar offers with less of a fall.

 

[Montucky]

The rams went from 15 to #1.

Going from #20 to #3 is not that out of question. Would probably cost two firsts and two seconds, but yea.....

I do think the general perception around the league is that the third best quarterback in the 2021 draft is better than Jared Goff was as a prospect. Third overall might well cost more this year than first overall cost in 2016.

 

[Montucky]

It cost the Rams

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I think you are in the ball park of what it would cost.

You also need teams at 8 and 12 not to make similar offers with less of a fall.

If I am the Bengals and I am not overly enthused by Penei Sewell I would rather go for a quantity of picks than quality of picks. The Bears off-setting the the downgrade from twelfth overall to twentieth overall with more picks may actually work in their favor. Though overall I feel like a trade-up is bad for the franchise and shouldn't be allowed. This team needs some first round picks on its roster.

 

[run and shoot]

The rams went from 15 to #1.

Going from #20 to #3 is not that out of question. Would probably cost two firsts and two seconds, but yea.....

this would not be smart

 

[Leomaz]

The rams went from 15 to #1.

Going from #20 to #3 is not that out of question. Would probably cost two firsts and two seconds, but yea.....

So you advocate giving away the #1overall pick in 2022

 

[dabears70]

There are huge issues with the pass rush and safeties.

Both Mack and Quinn were pretty disappointing, and if Pace is to be believed (I do not see why he would lie about this) Mack has had his third straight season of dealing with injuries. I do think Khalil Mack is starting to break down. Robert Quinn is already broken down. Mingo played well but not fantastic, and he's a free agent anyways so it does not really matter.

Teshaun Gipson is a free agent, so kiss him goodbye probably. Eddie Jackson is garbage now, he fell off a cliff. The Bears only hope is that he bounces back because his cap hit makes it impossible to get rid of him or bury him on the depth chart. Safety depth isn't bad, but nobody who is starter quality.

There's also the Akiem Hicks cap hit issue and Danny Trevathan's age.

Still I'm more optimistic than most about the Bears, but the defense is not in a good way. I'm way more hopeful about the offense going forward.

I want to reply to this post but the overreacting in it is just so much to handle that i'm not sure anything i write would matter anyway.

We do not have HUGE issues at pass rush and safety at all. K.Mack is gonna be just fine and will be just fine and wasn't as bad as many think that are just going only off of looking at his sack stats. R.Quinn was obviously off this year but i'd be willing to bet he gets in the double digit sacks next year cause he's like one of those players that's just been off and on each year and i just can't see him having another bad year and did start playing better towards the end of the season and in the Saints playoff game.





Seth Walder

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Sacks Created -- where we credit the person who first beat their blocker, as opposed to the person who finished the sack. 2020 Leaders: Aaron Donald 19 Myles Garrett 16.5 T.J. Watt 14.5 Khalil Mack 13 Justin Houston 12 Emmanuel Ogbah 11 Carl Lawson 10.5

E.Jackson has not lived up to his contract since he signed and i'm pretty sure i'm the first one to bring this up on CCS cause i talked about it during the 2019 season but nobody wanted to listen to me. Even with that you guys gotta stop with saying he's trash cause he's still very far from being trash. He definitely needs to step his game up next season and maybe a new DC that will hopefully bring in a more aggressive scheme will help him. Again....Eddie Jackson is far from being trash. T.Gipson played well this year and was a beast in the Saints playoff game but not sure why, or how, you somehow know he won't be back next year but even if he did finding a SS isn't all that hard to do.

I'm not worried about the defense and that's with the thought that we'll need to get rid of at least one of ouy higher paid defenders to clear cap space to get this offense right.