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I did not know fixing QB was so easy. just pick one and draft him. Who knew.
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He thought about it. That's not really trying.
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Making fun of me saying I was relieved bearsmick is not the Bears GM is pretty lame but to say he got in some kind of kill shot with such a lame response is delusional. bearsmick and rory and everyone else who wants to take a QB with this pick regardless of how risky it may be are behaving like meathead Bear fans whining away about how I want my Bears franchise QB and I want it now. This is behaving like impatient children.
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You don't know that
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Right. We'll just wait until a QB prospect with zero risk comes along.
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You assume far too much. You assume that anyone who wants to take one of these QBs hasn't followed them through their college careers, weighed their upside with their risks and come to their own conclusion via their own analysis. You assume that we all just want to throw a dart at a board and take a QB, any QB, as long as it's a QB. You're wrong about that.
I have spent the last few months on this board discussion why I want them to draft Watson or Kizer. If you haven't seen these discussions, too bad, but you shouldn't make such lazy assumptions. It's entirely possible that other people have done as much or more research than you and simply disagree with your opinion about these players.
Also, refusing to take any risk whatsoever is every bit as stupid as being overly hasty. Going with your ultra-conservative attitude, the Bears will spend eternity with a decent defense and no talent at QB. We've been doing that for decades. I'm ready for the team to move into the 21st century.
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Nah bearmick, his math is as simple as this:
1st round QB= Risky/scary
1st round Defense: Not risky/not scary
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First priority would be to get a competent OC that can game plan to the QB's strengths, and also make adjustments.
2nd would be to get a stable and good O line to protect the QB and give him time to think.
3rd would be to draft or get a franchise QB.
2nd would be to get a stable and good O line to protect the QB and give him time to think.
3rd would be to draft or get a franchise QB.
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Everyone has their views on who the best player would be at 3, but I just do not understand why some are so averse to risk with a first round pick! Years ago this would make sense for budget reasons, and i guess it would make sense as well if we were paying a high price to trade up, but such is not the case.
Any given team is nolonger financially anchored when a first round pick busts. Look at Jared Goff's contract, and notice how little he gets paid to play like crap! What matters now is the draft as a whole - i.e. does the draft bring in a couple starters and a couple contributors, disregarding where they were selected.
Any given team is nolonger financially anchored when a first round pick busts. Look at Jared Goff's contract, and notice how little he gets paid to play like crap! What matters now is the draft as a whole - i.e. does the draft bring in a couple starters and a couple contributors, disregarding where they were selected.
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And - Washington mortgages the future on RGIII and still drafts Cousins who is going to cash in big time this year. Try, try, try...
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Poor Ryan Pace . . . Bottom line - he put himself in this position by being the guy who came in stating a GM needed to draft quarterbii (pl: quarterback) every year until he got it right then being afraid to take anyone for two straight years. If the guy had the balls to take a shot once the last two years maybe he wouldn't be looking at a do-or-die QB high-round selection this year.
the shoopster's got no sympathy for him . . .
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This is a false narrative. You only claim he reached because you know those QBs failed. If they had succeeded you would have pretended this did not exist. Case in point.
Like, the Bears were in the same position in 2005. They drafted Cedric Benson and didn't reach for Aaron Rodgers and then Green Bay went on to win a Super Bowl and the Bears still suck.
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I wouldn't say the consequence of a bad QB is getting your arm cut off. More like sitting In a skybox with a "pissed off" Ginny MCaskey (whatever that is) game after dreadful game with the rest of the NFL laughing at you . . .
. . . Oh wait, Pace already has that. So what's he so afraid of? . . .
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No he actually called the Titans and tried making a trade with them to move up for M.Mariota....that's trying.
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The risk is time, not money.
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As someone pointed out before, the Bears couldn't draft Rodgers because they had already foolishly gone all in with Grossman.
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That doesn't make sense, any quarterback you draft is expected to need room for growth if you intend on starting him at any point. If you get a good return on your other picks, this shouldn't be a problem at all. Unless the point is to not draft a QB to begin with... But that's a fool's argument.
Or am I missing something?
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Lol, the Packers had Brett Favre. Grossman was drafted two years before and had shown zero in the 2 years since not to mention he had picked up a few injuries. Nor was he a top 10 pick so he didn't cost enough for it to be all in.
And the point here is judging things by hindsight is dumb. It's easy to know what the right decision was when you already know the outcome. Saying Fox didn't draft Locker or Gabbert because they were reaches is bullshit. They went in the general area where they were suppose to go.
Like did the teams that passed on Derek Carr happy they didn't reach for a QB? Of course not because since we know he looks like a stud, people are going to fashion an argument that teams should have taken him sooner.
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Half the people bitching in here are really just pissing and moaning that draft prospects are unknown. Yes, in real life, prospects don't come with ratings for every skill like in madden. Whoopty do. Risk in involved. So what?
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I think the team would greatly benefit from having a talented young QB to rally and build around. You do that and your team has a clear direction, protect the QB, add playmakers, and fill in the gaps. Not to mention it gives everyone a little hope for the upcoming season. Hoyer starting on opening day? Why even bother watching? We grab a defender not named Garrett and I feel like we'll still be patching holes randomly for all eternity, from one fired savior GM to the next.
