Whipping Boy For 2011/12 Season

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whoever joes favorite player of the week is. :smug2:

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Johnny. Being whipped by Patrick....
Ohhh. That's not what you meant. :shifty:
 

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If Keith has a season that resembles last year in any way, or if he gets off to a slow start - I think he's going to catch some shit (and rightfully so).

Also, we all love the game that Hossa plays, but if he has another not-so-healthy year - I'd expect his name to come up.

Seabrook possibly, though just because he was recently paid well. However, given his performance after signing his deal, I don't have any worries about him playing at a high level. He definitely stepped up his game down the stretch.



Quite frankly, if this team gets off to a slow start and struggles through the first two months of the year, I'm going to be disappointed. I'm fully expecting them to come out motivated and playing with something to prove. No bullshit this year.
 
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My honest answer is that either Hossa or Carcillo.

Hossa has disappointed a lot of fans and I'm sure the first time he gets injured this year or doesn't get very many points people will attack him.

Carcillo will probably take a lot of shit when he does something dumb and gets a suspension, but when he takes down Torres or one of those guys people will love him.
 

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I would guess that it might be Andrew Brunette - especially if he ends up performing similarly to Adam Dunne has for the Sox- there is some expectation that he has a vital part on the team by a lot of people envisioning him fitting right in on the top 2 lines (a lot of guys go the top line) - and if he fizzles badly - things won't go so well for him.

I will point out that the Hawks in the past have had an awful track record with aging vets that may have had a decent enough season the year before but once they put on the Indian head, tank badly. Guys like Paul Coffey, John Tonelli, etc ... they have always looked for the bargain vet in the past.

I'm not making predictions, per se, but rather am saying I could see that happening, based upon past history with similar players at a similar stage of their career.

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I disgaree about "Hossa disappointing a lot of fans" - those same "disappointed fans" ought to actually have a look at his stat lines, and he hasn't produced any differently than he has since he left Atlanta.
 

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It's impossible anyone could be THAT bad.

True - I was meaning more in the preception sense -as before the season and what has occurred during the season - I suppose you could add in any number of Cub acquisitions, as well.

There are some expectations for the guy, possibly unrealistic ones -time will tell.
 

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I would guess that it might be Andrew Brunette - especially if he ends up performing similarly to Adam Dunne has for the Sox- there is some expectation that he has a vital part on the team by a lot of people envisioning him fitting right in on the top 2 lines (a lot of guys go the top line) - and if he fizzles badly - things won't go so well for him.

I will point out that the Hawks in the past have had an awful track record with aging vets that may have had a decent enough season the year before but once they put on the Indian head, tank badly. Guys like Paul Coffey, John Tonelli, etc ... they have always looked for the bargain vet in the past.

I'm not making predictions, per se, but rather am saying I could see that happening, based upon past history with similar players at a similar stage of their career.

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I disgaree about "Hossa disappointing a lot of fans" - those same "disappointed fans" ought to actually have a look at his stat lines, and he hasn't produced any differently than he has since he left Atlanta.

I was thinking Brunette too.

About Hossa, I'm not one of those fans but some people on this message board and some other fans I know are disappointed. I personally love Hossa and realize how important he is. He's like Bolland and what Campbell was. You don't notice him as much, but he makes a huge difference.
 

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The Hossa disapointment comments are just, well :obama:
 

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I can't see Brunette being the whipping boy for this season - unless people have unrealistic expectations for him.. The guy is Mr. Consistency. I don't even know if he has missed 10 games over the last 13 seasons or so. I would expect him to put up around 50 points this year, which he is easily capable of.

Scott will be my whipping boy...if he plays. I sure hope he doesn't. I don't believe he belongs in the current NHL.

I think Olesz can easily become the whipping boy for plenty of reasons. No one knows what to expect of him. He is coming off of an injured ACL. He was traded for a player that could be considered a fan favorite of many. He has a contract that most/many feel he doesn't deserve. He was a high draft pick in the first round and could be labeled a bust already. Some feel he should have been bought out or buried in the minors/Europe. I think all that, along with any slow start or drought spells disaster and whipping boy for Olesz.
 

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I can't see Brunette being the whipping boy for this season - unless people have unrealistic expectations for him.. The guy is Mr. Consistency. I don't even know if he has missed 10 games over the last 13 seasons or so. I would expect him to put up around 50 points this year, which he is easily capable of.

Scott will be my whipping boy...if he plays. I sure hope he doesn't. I don't believe he belongs in the current NHL.

I think Olesz can easily become the whipping boy for plenty of reasons. No one knows what to expect of him. He is coming off of an injured ACL. He was traded for a player that could be considered a fan favorite of many. He has a contract that most/many feel he doesn't deserve. He was a high draft pick in the first round and could be labeled a bust already. Some feel he should have been bought out or buried in the minors/Europe. I think all that, along with any slow start or drought spells disaster and whipping boy for Olesz.

Scott is always a whipping boy. Then he beats the crap out of someone and people cheer. But soon after, he goes back to not skating or shooting or playing hockey and all the fans sigh a giant sigh.
 

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My exact thought. I don't get how you can not like Hossa or Bolland if you're a Hawks fan. How is that even possible? :facepalm:
How dare I not like the amount of money someone is making.
 

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Scott is always a whipping boy. Then he beats the crap out of someone and people cheer. But soon after, he goes back to not skating or shooting or playing hockey and all the fans sigh a giant sigh.

I'm not even a fan of his fights at all actually. He is 6'8", he should beat the crap out of everyone. About 95% of his fights are staged and have no influence on the end result of the game. There is no reason behind his fights besides "that is his job". Also, he rarely gets to fight because who wants to fight a giant?

That is the great thing about having Carcillo, Montador, Mayers, and O'Donnell on the team this year. These guys can actually play a meaningful shift and actually get in a fight that has meaning. They can actually skate out there when some of our "Stars" or guys who need to be protected are on the ice. They can actually catch the guy to fight and the guy will actually fight them because they are not giants (most of the 4 atleast). Fighting in hockey is rarely about who wins the fight, it is all about momentum and picking the right time to sway that momentum.
 

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I'm not even a fan of his fights at all actually. He is 6'8", he should beat the crap out of everyone. About 95% of his fights are staged and have no influence on the end result of the game. There is no reason behind his fights besides "that is his job". Also, he rarely gets to fight because who wants to fight a giant?

That is the great thing about having Carcillo, Montador, Mayers, and O'Donnell on the team this year. These guys can actually play a meaningful shift and actually get in a fight that has meaning. They can actually skate out there when some of our "Stars" or guys who need to be protected are on the ice. They can actually catch the guy to fight and the guy will actually fight them because they are not giants (most of the 4 atleast). Fighting in hockey is rarely about who wins the fight, it is all about momentum and picking the right time to sway that momentum.

I agree. I don't like Scott on the ice. He almost never fights and ends up screwing things up. It's a good thing that we have depth at D now and won't have to use him at all.
 

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They said Scott improved his skating over the summer.

Look out! :troll:
 

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