Whipping Boy For 2011/12 Season

[southern_cross_116]

So you would rather give up goals then have someone coming at our guys? Carcillo can play and enforce. That's why we got him.

How many goals against was Scott on the ice for? If a guy pulls about 3 minutes max of ice time in a game -there isn't much chance for flubs that end up costing goals.

Frankly 3 minutes of ice time per game might be a slight exaggeration -as it may have been 5 on a good night - but less than 3 many nights.

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Hossa: well this being a messageboard- and like a lot of messageboards - you will always find someone willing to cry about anyone at any time for any reason. So I can see people loading up their diapers if Hossa (or frankly, fill in the blank) doesn't perform to that person's "expectations" - whatever the hell those end up actually being some times...

E.G.: Wah - -play X suxxorz becuz hiz stick is curved to the left and not made out of lazerbeamz.

If you get my point.

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Ice has it right - Carcillo wasn't signed to be an Enforcer - he was signed to be an agitating jerk; I'm sure he's a nice enough guy when not working for a paycheck (most of those guys are), but on the ice, when on the clock he is paid to be a total douchebag, albeit one with a sometimes present scoring touch.

The man knows his role, and -well - frankly that is the direction that the front office wanted to take the team. To make it more douchey -which is fine when it works, but awfully embarassing if it doesn't.

Take Dennis Rodman's time with the Bulls, there was an example of when it worked.

 

[TheChicagoFan]

How many goals against was Scott on the ice for? If a guy pulls about 3 minutes max of ice time in a game -there isn't much chance for flubs that end up costing goals.

Frankly 3 minutes of ice time per game might be a slight exaggeration -as it may have been 5 on a good night - but less than 3 many nights.

I'm not saying that he shouldn't play. I think there is a John Scott effect. I just wish that he would get better and become more like Byfuglien. Not completely like him, but be able to skate and shoot.

 

[Everyday I'm Byfuglien]

Anyone see Hossa becoming a whipping boy if he doesn't put up better numbers?

:shrug:

Hossa's biggest problem is his health, not his numbers.

 

[southern_cross_116]

I'm not saying that he shouldn't play. I think there is a John Scott effect. I just wish that he would get better and become more like Byfuglien. Not completely like him, but be able to skate and shoot.

You don't find guys like that sitting around and taking an NHL minimum contract, though. He should have had the opportunity to have shown that while in Minnesota, as scoring is generally something they have a tough time coming up with. And he never showed it there either.

I imagine too, GMs want all their draft picks every year to pan out -but many times, it ends up becoming the exception to the rule.

With Scott:
It sort of becomes like the guy who played Goober wanting to do Shakespeare... typecast.

 

[tbo41fan]

Hossa's biggest problem is his health, not his numbers.

it baffles me that people bag on Hossa outside of his health


I wish he was the worst of our problems...lol

 

[TheChicagoFan]

it baffles me that people bag on Hossa outside of his health


I wish he was the worst of our problems...lol

I don't get how Blackhawks fans can not like Hossa or Bolland despite everything they do for the team. Both of them are extremely important to the team.

 

[Everyday I'm Byfuglien]

Bolland has had shitty stretches where he's completely invisible. However, he also had a very nice streak last season where he was productive and playing well.

He also had his back worked on which is absolutely not something to take lightly. I don't think he's a bad player... I'm just saying.

Guy centered the best Hawks line in 2008-09 and he's priceless in the playoffs. Now that he should be recovered and healthy- I'm expecting a big year out of him.

I like him, yet it's not hard to see why some slag on him.

 

[Gunzaan]

Who is a possible whipping boy this year?

Patrick Kane.

 

[Everyday I'm Byfuglien]

it baffles me that people bag on Hossa outside of his health


I wish he was the worst of our problems...lol

It doesn't baffle me when I think about it. The guy has as much skill as anyone... his wrister is absolutely FILTHY and his hockey brain is second to none. By all accounts, a guy with the gifts he has should be netting 70 points easily yet he hasn't cracked 60 with the Hawks yet.

But, you take in to account how fucking hard the guy works every shift and the amount of defense he plays and all of his numbers (games played included) totally make sense. The guy doesn't have a cruise control... if he's on the ice, he's part of the play. Period.

The desire for more points makes sense, but we all know he's more than that.

 

[tbo41fan]

It doesn't baffle me when I think about it. The guy has as much skill as anyone... his wrister is absolutely FILTHY and his hockey brain is second to none. By all accounts, a guy with the gifts he has should be netting 70 points easily yet he hasn't cracked 60 with the Hawks yet.

But, you take in to account how fucking hard the guy works every shift and the amount of defense he plays and all of his numbers (games played included) totally make sense. The guy doesn't have a cruise control... if he's on the ice, he's part of the play. Period.

The desire for more points makes sense, but we all know he's more than that.

Bingo....

 

[TheChicagoFan]

Who is a possible whipping boy this year?

Patrick Kane.

Probably. I'm not a huge Kane fan, but I won't hate on him. I don't think there's anyone on the team that I'll actually "whip" on.

 

[southern_cross_116]

Probably. I'm not a huge Kane fan, but I won't hate on him. I don't think there's anyone on the team that I'll actually "whip" on.

This thread is personal? In other words, who is *your* whipping boy"? I didn't realize that ... I thought it was who do you think will attract the most whining. :/

My mistake I guess... so modifying my prior post to - I don't have one myself, as crying about a person's performance gets in the way of analysis. . . I think I had written Brunette ... I was meaning it -along the lines of I think there is a big potential upside for him being whipped. :shrug:

I am on a big roll lately, of not paying attention, and getting things completely wrong -so it must be a sign of aging. :nervous:

 

[TheChicagoFan]

This thread is personal? In other words, who is *your* whipping boy"? I didn't realize that ... I thought it was who do you think will attract the most whining. :/

My mistake I guess... so modifying my prior post to - I don't have one myself, as crying about a person's performance gets in the way of analysis. . . I think I had written Brunette ... I was meaning it -along the lines of I think there is a big potential upside for him being whipped. :shrug:

I am on a big roll lately, of not paying attention, and getting things completely wrong -so it must be a sign of aging. :nervous:

I don't actually know. I'm just saying that there is basically nobody on this team that I will "whip" on. If it's who could be whipped on, I have a big list. :shrug:

 

[southern_cross_116]

I don't actually know. I'm just saying that there is basically nobody on this team that I will "whip" on. If it's who could be whipped on, I have a big list. :shrug:

I wasn't trying to be an On-Topic Nazi ... :/ but I guess these days I just assume that I skimmed something and missed it.

I assumed you were correct, Chicago-Fan.

 

[TheChicagoFan]

I wasn't trying to be an On-Topic Nazi ... :/ but I guess these days I just assume that I skimmed something and missed it.

I assumed you were correct, Chicago-Fan.

Don't trust me on this. I'm not important around here.

I think it might be a little of both. Maybe say who you would whip and who you think would be whipped? :dunno:

 

[Captain Iago]

This is one of my favorite videos ever.

He might be dead...part of that plane KHL plane crash.

 

[TheChicagoFan]

He might be dead...part of that plane KHL plane crash.

Yeah. No longer one of my favorite videos. I probably won't ever watch it again.