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McCann would be my top Free Agent guy on my list. He's 30 so we could do a 3 or 4 year deal. Well maybe if we trade our vets and get some prospects well see how they develop and maybe next year try to trade for one of them. I think Beckham has good value right now being 26 and hitting .340. Maybe I'm wrong
 

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My Free Agent wish list: Would like to add a couple of these guys
C Brian McCann-this is my top choice
RHP Jon Lester, Phil Hughes or Josh Johnson ( wouldn't break the bank for these guys but at the right deal one of them I would add to our rotation)
OF Nelson Cruz probably out of our price range and he is 33.
OF Hunter Pence
OF Delmon Young
OF Jacoby Ellsbury-I like him but he seems hurt alot and I think he has Boras as his agent IIRC.
1B Corey Hart or James Loney


Jesus just looking. Thornton has a 6 mil dollar club option. Get this guy traded.

Hopefully we can trade vets and get some good players in return. We need hit on a few ones. We'll be getting plenty of prospects in return with all the guys being traded.
 

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Red Sox scouting Thornton, Lindstrom and Reed. I know I said awhile back **** it you can trade Reed too but I wouldn't anymore. I'd keep he, Sale, Quintana together. We have a good young closer. Would be stupid to trade him when we're rebuilding.
 

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From mlbtraderumors.com

White Sox Notes: Sale, Reed, Thornton, Lindstrom
By Zach Links [July 10, 2013 at 4:44pm CST]
If Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports were in charge of the White Sox, he would make Chris Sale available via trade. With an incredibly thin starting pitching market, some smart team is going to capitalize and put a top-of-the-rotation hurler in play and the White Sox should be that team. Some in baseball believe Sale can be had but one GM on the lookout for a starter says that he has had numerous conversations with Rick Hahn, and Hahn never once has mentioned Sale. Sale is only 24 and is in the first year of a club-friendly, five-year, $32.5MM contract that includes club options of $12.5MM for 2018 and and $13.5MM for ’19. Here's more on the White Sox..

The Red Sox are looking everywhere for relief help and are interested in White Sox relievers Addison Reed, Matt Thornton, and Matt Lindstrom, tweets Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe.
The White Sox have been asking for major-league ready or near-ready prospects in their trade talks, according to Buster Olney of ESPN.com (on Twitter).
Jim Bowden of ESPN.com (Insider sub. req'd) suggets five blockbuster trades for teams, including a swap between the White Sox and Pirates. Bowden's hypothetical has Alex Rios and Alexei Ramirez heading to Pittsburgh for outfielder Gregory Polanco, pitcher Nick Kingham, and shortstop Jordy Mercer. Bowden reasons that the deal will give the White Sox an excellent prospect in Polanco while allowing them to get younger and free up dollars.


Glad Rosenthal isn't our GM. Fucking idiot.
 

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That trade with the Pirates seems good to me. Polanco is rapidly advancing in the Pirates organization.

Jordy Mercer is just 3-for-23 with no extra-base hits in July.
Mercer entered the month with a .284 average, but his cold streak has dropped that number to .261. Pittsburgh's starting shortstop offers more on the field than Clint Barmes, and the club doesn't figure to give up on the youngster prematurely, but Mercer isn't worth a mixed league roster spot at the moment. Jul 10 - 9:48 PM


Gregory Polanco has continued to thrive since his promotion to Double-A Altoona, hitting .313/.371/.500 with a homer, six RBI and three stolen bases in his first eight games.
The 21-year-old outfielder is rapidly advancing up many prospect ranks with strong hit tools and dazzling combination of power and speed. Across two minor league levels, he's hitting .312/.365/.476 with seven homers and 27 RBI through 65 games. Jun 27 - 11:32 PM

Couple years old but some info on Kingham

Pittsburgh Pirates 2012 Top Prospects: #10 – Nick Kingham
Posted by Tim Williams on December 12, 2011 | 3 Comments
The Pirates Prospects 2012 Prospect Guide will be released later this week, featuring over 250 prospect reports, the 2012 top 50 prospects, a feature on the top four pitching prospects in the system, and the most comprehensive coverage of the Pirates’ farm system that you can find. While the top 50 prospects are exclusive to the book, we will be releasing the top ten prospects over the next week. Be sure to purchase your copy of the book on the products page of the site.

We start the countdown with the number ten prospect, Nick Kingham.


Nick Kingham had a 2.15 ERA in 71 innings during his first pro season.
10. Nick Kingham, RHP

Kingham had a lot of success in his first professional season in State College, and really stood out as a guy to follow going forward. His scouting reports out of the draft said that he threw 90-93 MPH with good life, along with a solid-average changeup and a below average curveball. Kingham displayed the 90-93 MPH fastball this year, and his secondary pitches ended up being much better than advertised.
His curveball looked strong early in the season, fooling a lot of hitters, and used as a strikeout pitch. The focus on fastball command led Kingham to use the curve only two or three times per outing, which led to the pitch getting rusty late in the season. When the pitch was on, it was an average to above-average offering. His best off-speed pitch was his changeup, which was very effective against left handers, grading out as an above-average pitch.

His fastball sits in the 90-93 MPH range early in outings, but he’s not to the point where he can carry that velocity past the first few innings. He attacks both sides of the plate with the fastball, and does a great job using the pitch to set up his off-speed stuff.

Kingham saw some improvements in his fastball velocity heading in to his junior year of high school, and he could see further improvements to all of his pitches as he moves throughout the minors. He profiles as a strong number three starter with the ability to throw 200 innings a year due to his build.

The Pirates will send Kingham to West Virginia for full season ball in 2012. He will get a chance to use his off-speed stuff more often, and will add to his workload. He already has an advantage there, throwing 71 innings in 2011. That could allow him to top 125 innings in 2012, which will be a good step towards building him up towards that workhorse role.
 

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I think Crain being elected to the All-Star game helps teams realize that they could want him in a trade. I think Crain and another pitcher could land the Sox a good prospect. I wouldn't be sad to see him leave either.
 

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We need to get some good specs out of this deadline and I mean they turn out good not just land the top rated ones
 

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If Hahn trades Sale I will be beyond pissed. I just don't see it happening.
 

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I expect traded: Rios, Crain, Thornton, Peavy

Hope these are dealt: Ramirez, Danks, Konerko

I'm on the fence about Dunn though his contract being gone would be great. I want to keep Beckham in hopes of he's coming around with entering the prime of his career. But if we could package him and other players to get a deal that makes our team better I'm fine with that.
 

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Hahn has said that nobody is untouchable, but I think Sale definitely is. Also...the Sox aren't exactly buying at the deadline. They'd be looking to get prospects and Sale himself is pretty much the age of a prospect. It would be a weird and stupid trade.

AKA. It won't happen.
 

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My Free Agent wish list: Would like to add a couple of these guys
C Brian McCann-this is my top choice
RHP Jon Lester, Phil Hughes or Josh Johnson ( wouldn't break the bank for these guys but at the right deal one of them I would add to our rotation)
OF Nelson Cruz probably out of our price range and he is 33.
OF Hunter Pence
OF Delmon Young
OF Jacoby Ellsbury-I like him but he seems hurt alot and I think he has Boras as his agent IIRC.
1B Corey Hart or James Loney


Jesus just looking. Thornton has a 6 mil dollar club option. Get this guy traded.

Hopefully we can trade vets and get some good players in return. We need hit on a few ones. We'll be getting plenty of prospects in return with all the guys being traded.

cruz will likely miss some time due to biogenesis
 

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Sorry BigHurt but I don't think the White Sox will get any of those players on your "wish list".
 

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Ya I'm probably wrong that's why its my wish list lol.

Ya I don't expect Sale to be moved especially with him signing an extension. He's 24 so he's the age of a prospect and he's an elite starter. Stupid trade it would be. I don't see it possible. It would ruin Hahn as a GM. As a team rebuilding you don't trade an elite 24 year old ace who is under contract reasonably for foreseeable future. We'll see how this shakes out. I'm ansy to start moving guys and getting prospects.


McCann could be possible if he hit the market and our catchers don't show something. If we shed payroll we could afford him. I'm not sure what kind of contract he'll command but I don't think it'd be 75 million would it?
 

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http://sports.yahoo.com/news/four-bullpen-arms-detroit-tigers-targeting-181500286.html

Jesse Crain - Chicago White Sox
I know it is frowned upon to trade within the division, but the AL (Comedy) Central seems to be out of reach for the slumping-all-season White Sox. Various rumors in the Twittersphere have already linked the Tigers to the White Sox in a deal that would have Crain wearing an Old English D sometime in July, in exchange for star outfield and third base prospect Nick Castellanos. It is a natural move!
Crain has a 4.2 strikeout-to-walk rate, a 1.06 WHIP, and a microscopic 0.52 ERA in 34.2 innings. He could potentially be the closer for a team in desperate need of one.


I would do a fucking backflip if we got Castellanos for Crain. Ironically we took Ryan Castellanos in the draft, brother of Nick. That'd be a start to getting the vets out and new prospects in. I was also reading that the Rangers, Red Sox, Braves, Phillies have scouted our team (which they get an upclose look this weekend). The Pirates supposed to be in on Rios though that'd be expensive for them.

Chicago Tribune had a story on potential trades with other teams


Here are a few teams who could be attractive trade partners:

Rangers

They had a scout follow the Sox during their recent trip, and they had interest in left-handed reliever Matt Thornton in past seasons. But starting pitching appears to be the thrust of their midseason upgrades.

Should the Sox be willing to trade a starter — Jake Peavy would be attractive once he recovers from a rib fracture — they should aim as high as possible in return because of the quality depth of the Rangers' farm system.

Possibilities could include infield slugger Mike Olt, who recently solved vision problems; left-hander Martin Perez; Class A pitcher Luke Jackson (59 strikeouts in 572/3 innings); and switch-hitting Class A middle infielder Luis Sardinas.

Last winter, a Diamondbacks source griped about the Rangers' unwillingness to part with marquee talent in talks involving Justin Upton. But the Rangers can't afford to fall short again in their World Series quest.

Diamondbacks/Giants

Recent struggles by Heath Bell and injuries to J.J. Putz scream for the Diamondbacks to add relief help. They are familiar with Sox reliever Matt Lindstrom, who wasn't scored upon in 10 of his final 11 games with the Diamondbacks last season.

Sox special assistant Bill Scherrer has seen the Diamondbacks several times this season.

Like their National League West rivals, the Giants also could use relief help by midseason, and at least four of their scouts have seen the Sox play. The Giants have several raw, high-ceiling pitching prospects, which the Sox have a history of polishing.

Tigers

Yes, everyone knows about the Tigers' bullpen woes. And there's no shame in trading with a division rival, as the Sox have done in past seasons with the Royals and Twins.

But in this case, the Sox should aim high once they're finally convinced to break up their team and look to the future.

With the contracts of Paul Konerko, Adam Dunn and Alex Rios set to expire within the next two seasons, the Sox should consider including another player besides a reliever to pry third baseman/outfielder Nick Castellanos.

And with Tigers shortstop Jhonny Peralta linked to the Biogenesis scandal, the Sox should explore what they could receive for Alexei Ramirez.

Red Sox

The Red Sox have had closer problems, so they might try to aim higher than late-inning relievers such as Jesse Crain, Thornton and Lindstrom. But pitching coach Juan Nieves is familiar with Crain and Thornton from his days as the White Sox bullpen coach.

The Red Sox have depth among their shortstop and pitching prospects and could look to upgrade in the outfield with Rios. Three of Boston's top 10 prospects, as ranked by BaseballAmerica, are shortstops Xander Bogaerts (No. 1), Jose Iglesias (9) and Deven Marrero (10).

Like the Giants, the Red Sox have sent several scouts to watch the White Sox this season.

Blue Jays

The Blue Jays and White Sox have been friendly trade partners, and the Jays' recent winning streak, along with the impending return of Jose Reyes, should strengthen their efforts to contend in the American League East.

The Blue Jays had interest in Gordon Beckham after the 2011 season before re-signing Kelly Johnson, and they could look to upgrade with him at second base. Toronto has plenty of minor league pitching depth at the lower levels that could enable the Sox to stock their farm system.

The Reds (relief) and Yankees (middle-of-the-order hitter) also could get involved with the Sox. And at least four Phillies scouts have seen the Sox play this season.
 

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Detroit has a few hitters we should try and pry. Castellanos, Avi Garcia and Tuiasosopo (.342 6 HR 21 RBI .458 OBP in 40 games) I'd be fine with any of those guys.

Although he's struggled I'd also take Rondon if we gave them lets say Crain and Thornton. It would suck to help detroit out but if it meant making us alot better Im good with that. Detroits needs all and any relievers they can get. Their owner is getting old and wants to win a championship bad. So lets rape the Tiggers.
 

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Speaking of Biogenesis have they figured out all 22 names? I know Arod, Braun, Cruz, Jhonny Peralta. I've heard rumors of Cano and Granderson
 

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Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN 52m

Diamondbacks are among the teams talking about Jake Peavy, and CWS have had scouts on hand at Arizona games; they've seen Randall Delgado.
 

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Diamondbacks looking into Jake Peavy trade
ESPN's Buster Olney reports that the Diamondbacks are one of the teams that have discussed a trade for Jake Peavy.
The D'Backs seem intent on adding rotation help, as they've also been connected to Yovani Gallardo. Olney says that the White Sox have scouted Arizona's games recently and have checked out Randall Delgado. Peavy (rib) is slated to begin a rehab assignment on Sunday and will draw plenty of trade interest if he shows he's healthy.


Randall Delgado held the Mets to two runs in seven innings Wednesday in the Diamondbacks' 5-3 victory.
Delgado struck out nine batters and did not issue a walk in yet another decent outing. His only real blemishes were the solo home runs that he allowed to David Wright and Josh Satin in the bottom of the fourth inning. Delgado has a 3.67 ERA and 25/4 K/BB ratio in 27 total frames this season. He'll be put to the test next week when he faces the Dodgers at home. Jul 4 - 12:27 AM
 

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Delgado's last 6 games
Delgaod is 23 yrs old with 2 yrs experience 6'3" 200 lbs.

DATE OPPONENT RESULT IP H R ER HR BB SO GB FB TBF Pit Dec. Rel. ERA
07/08 vs LAD L 1-6 6.0 11 3 3 0 0 3 8 17 28 91 L(1-3) -- 3.82
07/03 @ NYM W 5-3 7.0 7 2 2 2 0 9 6 11 26 106 W(1-2) -- 3.67
06/28 @ ATL L 0-3 6.0 8 2 2 1 3 3 10 11 27 106 L(0-2) -- 4.05
06/23 vs CIN L 2-4 5.0 6 4 3 2 1 4 8 9 22 85 L(0-1) -- 4.50
06/18 vs MIA W 3-2 7.0 8 2 2 0 0 6 14 7 27 91 -- -- 4.00
06/03 @ STL L 1-7 2.0 4 2 2 1 0 3 4 3 10 38 -- -- 9.00

He is a career:
ERA W-L Ks WHIP
3.92 6-13 122 1.38
 
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