Who is the MVP?

[houheffna]

Oh, please. LeBron James cannot guard any of those players one-on-one (especially the bigs). He always has plenty of help of defense closing in the traps and shot-blockers, athleticism, and length all over the place. LeBron is far from the GOD of defense. Great defender but that isn't enough to put him over the top as the MVP.



A large proportion of NBA games go down to the last two minutes. Miami has 3 great players and decent depth which is enough to win the vast majority of games without coming down to the wire and win them even without LeBron altogether. In those instances where their team needs a final shot to win, usually LeBron just doesn't get the job done.

"On road trip LeBron has guarded: Marcus Camby, Pau Gasol, Earl Watson, P. Millsap, G. Wallace, Kobe, Metta & Steve Blake to name a few." - Brian Windhorst

HE HAS GUARDED THOSE PLAYERS ONE ON ONE! What the hell are you talking about? He is the same size as Howard and Pau! Why is that so far-fetched? Quit pretending that you watched the games where he actually did that stuff if you didn't actually watch it.

And his being a far superior defensive player to the other players mentioned in the MVP race should definitely be a factor. Why else has Howard's name been mentioned in MVP races in the past? Why has he been top 5 in MVP races over the last few years? Stop the madness...

 

[houheffna]

In the last 6 games the Bulls would be 2-4 without Rose.And they are 6-0

It is nothing to do with the last 2 minutes of the game.It's the performance and their contribution for the team record.And for the team record the performance of a player in the last minutes of close games when the W comes at this time yes its very important.

Got any numerical data to back that up?

Lebron is MVP of his team on BOTH SIDES OF THE COURT...does that matter at all?

 

[Glide2keva]

I am still going with Lebron...the guy guards Derrick Rose, Dwight Howard and Pau Gasol. Nobody else in the league can do that. People knock Skip Bayless, but seem to use his line of thinking...look at the last 2 minutes of a game. Doesn't work that way.

Big surprise there.

 

[Glide2keva]

Oh, please. LeBron James cannot guard any of those players one-on-one (especially the bigs). He always has plenty of help of defense closing in the traps and shot-blockers, athleticism, and length all over the place. LeBron is far from the GOD of defense. Great defender but that isn't enough to put him over the top as the MVP.

A large proportion of NBA games go down to the last two minutes. Miami has 3 great players and decent depth which is enough to win the vast majority of games without coming down to the wire and win them even without LeBron altogether. In those instances where their team needs a final shot to win, usually LeBron just doesn't get the job done.

THANK YOU!!!!!

 

[Anytime23]

Hou, does LeBron give you a towel to wipe yourself off after he busts a nut in your face?

 

[Glide2keva]

Hou, does LeBron give you a towel to wipe yourself off after he busts a nut in your face?

Why you going at dude like that?

 

[Anytime23]

Bc attacking hou is what I do. I'm one of his fans, according to him.

But seriously, dude is a clown. This LeBron guarding Howard thing is nonsense. Hou can see LeBron guard Howard, win one possession and claim LeBron has his number. The guy is just a LBJ dick rider, clearly. Attack him and don't let up.

 

[Glide2keva]

Bc attacking hou is what I do. I'm one of his fans, according to him.

But seriously, dude is a clown. This LeBron guarding Howard thing is nonsense. Hou can see LeBron guard Howard, win one possession and claim LeBron has his number. The guy is just a LBJ dick rider, clearly. Attack him and don't let up.

I hear you, he's the same size as Pau and Howard, who are somehow the same size as each other, Who knew?

lebron can shut down ANYONE in the league one on one, man and you know this.

 

[Anytime23]

Bigger, stronger, faster than mankind

 

[Glide2keva]

Bigger, stronger, faster than mankind

But now we're basketball Special person.

Just so you know.

 

[Anytime23]

Rose is back in the race and hou is angry as hell

 

[Glide2keva]

Rose is back in the race and hou is angry as hell

I wouldn't go that far. But he clearly thinks Rose doesn't deserve to be mentioned at all.

 

[houheffna]

But now we're basketball Special person.

Just so you know.

You damn skippy! Two retards going back and forth...one who talked about how Lebron is dominant this season, yet vilifies me for pointing it out...though you stated IN THIS THREAD that was the case.

The other cannot write a coherent thought without making some homoerotic sexual statement about performing sex acts with pro athletes. Posting with your dick in your hand is your business. But I would think in a sports forum, you could talk about sports. This idiot talks about ejaculation WAY too much...where are you at? In jail? Go get some pussy for crying out loud! What a goofball...

 

[Glide2keva]

You damn skippy! Two retards going back and forth...one who talked about how Lebron is dominant this season, yet vilifies me for pointing it out...though you stated IN THIS THREAD that was the case.

Name calling is the resort of people with little intelligence. Since you aren't one of those people, why do you constantly resort to such high school tactics. And BTW, what are you even talking about here?

 

[FirstTimer]

Oh, please. LeBron James cannot guard any of those players one-on-one (especially the bigs)..

LOL at Lebron not being able to guard Rose.

Please refer to the ECF.

STFU.

You still posting stupid bullshit?

 

[houheffna]

Name calling is the resort of people with little intelligence. Since you aren't one of those people, why do you constantly resort to such high school tactics. And BTW, what are you even talking about here?

basketball Special person is something I have been saying for a while...as for the second paragraph...that is not about you.

That is about another poster you were having a conversation with...

 

[Glide2keva]

basketball Special person is something I have been saying for a while...as for the second paragraph...that is not about you.

That is about another poster you were having a conversation with...

Well you said I said something, I was asking about that part.

 

[houheffna]

Well you said I said something, I was asking about that part.

You were the one who spoke of Lebron being dominant this season...

 

[Glide2keva]

He is.

I don't deny that. But his short-comings late in games should impact him in the MVP race, especially when you got guys like Derrick Rose leading a team with the better record and making clutch shots to win games instead of passing off. Guys like you make it hard to like lebron, because you're constantly telling everyone how good he is while at the same time not criticizing his game. But then go and criticize everyone else.

Numbers wise, lebron is having a great season, but the game is more than raw numbers. It's also about the big moments and who steps up in them and who shrinks. lebron has shrunk in these moments more so than any other star player.

lebron shouldn't be the runaway MVP, just based on his stat padding.

 

[Glide2keva]

Since it's the most VALUABLE player, and not (the best player in the league) award. What is most valuable to the team, stats or wins?

Wins are.

My problem with ESPN is that they act like the Heat are in first place when they are actually 2 back. But don't tell that to them though. Yesterday Jay Crawford spoke of the Knicks saying they are in the 8th spot right now and if the season ended [yesterday], then the Knicks would face the Heat in the first round.

He didn't check the standings and no one corrected him on it. They made it seem like the Bulls weren't in first place. They act like they don't exist since they have already decided that they don't have a chance of even beating the Knicks, let alone the Heat.

It's the spreading of misinformation that bothers me more than anything. It's like Fox News.