Who is the MVP?

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Last year I asked people to face the facts and some of you all got all butt hurt over it. So I just want to sit back and see who everybody is saying the League MVP is...

So tell me...who is it?

I'm not sure if anyone was butt hurt but I don't think people take kindly to you telling others to face "facts" with your personal opinions. Surprised you still don't understand. I mean, if Rose was factually the MVP, what kind of credibility does that give your opinion that you labeled a fact?

And to answer your question, Durant.
 

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Easiest based on strength of schedule. It doesnt factor in if you were on the road or not, its only based on the winning percentage of the teams they have played. Playing crappy teams on the road really doesnt matter all that much unless your team has a road game problem like some indeed do have (The Bulls don't).

The fact that the bulls have lost games mostly against +0.500 teams is not so bad,when there were 2 and 3 starters down.And the road games are road games.They are more difficult than the home games.It is not so easy to be in a plane and play back to back games in different states every night.The heat did a 1-3 in their one and only road trip and we already have done 2 road trips so far.One we ended with a 3-1 in California and one that ended in Boston with 6-3

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The only loss that was unexpected for me was against the 76ers.(the fact that Philly outplayed us mostly-I expected a L there)
 

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I'm not sure if anyone was butt hurt but I don't think people take kindly to you telling others to face "facts" with your personal opinions. Surprised you still don't understand. I mean, if Rose was factually the MVP, what kind of credibility does that give your opinion that you labeled a fact?

And to answer your question, Durant.

"I like Simmons a lot when it comes to basketball...and I am glad the debate is being had and that Rose is a part of it. It is going to be a close decision...my only hope is that whoever deserves it based on what happens on the court gets the award. I don't want to see Lebron "punished" because of the decision over the summer. That would not be a good thing. The league punished Kobe much the same way. When stuff like that happens, you politicize the award based too much on moral character and not athletic achievement."

The facts are that a year ago this time, Lebron was dominating the league and playing much better than anybody else night in and night out. I can say that with statistical accuracy. That was factual, not opinion, fact. And some people on this site didn't want to take in account Lebron being dominant because they hated him and Rose was doing well.

My intent was spelled out in that same thread. And I was not the only one that felt that way in that thread.

I also spoke of Lebron's regression over the course of the season for whatever reason and stated that Rose had surpassed him in the race for the MVP.
 

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He was the best player in the league last season and still didn't win MVP. He's the best player in the league this year and there's a chance he might not win it.

I think the league needs to be like the NFL and have MVP and a OPOY. Because id still argue that a Howard or Durant is more valuable to their teams than Lebron is to Miami. Lebrons stats reign suprme and the Heat are obviously better with him but they'd still be a great team without him, as they still looked great without Wade. Hell, even Bosh won them a game by himself vs the Hawks when the other two were out with injuries. I just think a MVP needs to unquestionably be head and shoulders better than the rest of the guys on their team.

And again, you have your stats but overall you were stating an opinion. Stats don't win MVPs alone. Some people look at surrounding talent(me for example), some look at records and some look at stats. There needs to be more black and white with the MVP selection but unfortunately there's not.

Lbjs the best player in the league and that's not going to change IMO. But that doesn't make him MVP
 

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He was the best player in the league last season and still didn't win MVP. He's the best player in the league this year and there's a chance he might not win it.

I think the league needs to be like the NFL and have MVP and a OPOY. Because id still argue that a Howard or Durant is more valuable to their teams than Lebron is to Miami. Lebrons stats reign suprme and the Heat are obviously better with him but they'd still be a great team without him, as they still looked great without Wade. Hell, even Bosh won them a game by himself vs the Hawks when the other two were out with injuries. I just think a MVP needs to unquestionably be head and shoulders better than the rest of the guys on their team.

And again, you have your stats but overall you were stating an opinion. Stats don't win MVPs alone. Some people look at surrounding talent(me for example), some look at records and some look at stats. There needs to be more black and white with the MVP selection but unfortunately there's not.

Lbjs the best player in the league and that's not going to change IMO. But that doesn't make him MVP


Exactly how I see it!

Derrick might not win it again, when I think about that we still won games without him and most important: we almost beat Miami and Boston without him! That is going to lower his chances!

Lebron has absolutely amazing stats. Now is the question how you wanna see it: Do you say he plays with 2 other stars, so he doesn´t deserve it or do you say hell he makes those stats EVEN with two other stars on his team!

CP3 just turned the whole Clippers franchise around! Absolutely an MVP candidate!

Kobe is the leading scorer, so he´s automatically a candidate as well.

I can´t say much against Durant, I´ve seen to little of him this year. I just saw the highlights of his clutch shots, he might be the one whose plays were most important for the team´s record!

Howard is out of the race and I don´t know if he should win DPOY again!
 

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Derrick might not win it again, when I think about that we still won games without him and most important: we almost beat Miami and Boston without him! That is going to lower his chances!

No.We almost beat Miami BECAUSE OF him.He scored 34 points in that game.And we are without Deng,with Rip playing injured and with Boozer walking in the court.And this is one reason he is so high in my book for the MVP award so far.
 
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No.We almost beat Miami BECAUSE OF him.He scored 34 points in that game.And this is one reason he is so high in my book for the MVP award so far.

Oh you´re right!

I remember, he missed the two free throws!

Damn, I don´t know why I always think he missed that game! Happened the whole week!
 

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The MVP isn't the best player in the league.

If that was the case, Jordan should've won it from 87 to 98.
 

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I'd say LeBron is the frontrunner honestly. I can see a case for Durant though.
 

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It's all going to come down to Durantula or LBJ. It's also a potential Finals match up right now.
 

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Houheffna is not being a troll (like some people in here) but he is going out of his way to be a contrarian.

The reason "The Decision" stuff will hurt LeBron (and Wade) in the MVP voting isn't because the media holds some kind of resentment against them. It is because they have loads of talent (and similar talent for that matter) on their roster.

Despite that, LeBron James is having arguably the best year of his career and is in the discussion right now. But to say that it is him (and if you don't agree then you are biased/a homer/anti-LeBron) is just not true. It could be true for the people who believe Rose is still MVP or know nothing about basketball, but not with most of the posters in here.

Durant honestly seems like he has helped OKC to just as many wins or even more than James has for the Heat. And now that Wade is healthy, I don't see that changing.
 

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The MVP isn't the best player in the league.

If that was the case, Jordan should've won it from 87 to 98.

Sometimes it is but it all depends on what players you have around you and what system you are apart of. Obviously, the better you are as a player- the higher your chances are to win MVP (in general). But when Wade and Bosh are your teammates (to go along with a solid supporting cast of Haslem/Battier/a couple of semi-decent PG's, and a defensive C), your chances aren't going to be as high as a guy (for instance) who has Jason Terry, Jason Kidd, Shawn Marion or Ryan Anderson, Jason Richardson, Hedo Turkoglu, and J.J. Redick or Boozer/Gibson/Deng/deep bench or Westbrook/Harden/a couple interior defenders/decent bench as teammates.
 

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I agree with that.

lebron has a case for MVP and I'd pick him honestly. His stats are too good to deny.
 

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I'd say LeBron is the frontrunner honestly. I can see a case for Durant though.

I cant see a case for Durant and Durant is my favorite NBA player no one scores as easily as KD.

LeBron is shooting 54.7% that is like a elite C fg%. He is shooting 40% from 3. He is the best defensive player in the league the way he dominated the Pacers on defense last night was just crazy he made our players look silly.

One play in-particular where he switched on the PnR and just made the big man look silly he can guard all 5 spots.
 

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Would it be too crazy to put up an argument for LaMarcus Aldridge at this point? He's had the best year of his career so far this year. After he left last night's game with an ankle injury, Portland looked completely out of sync and were blown out by the Wizards at home.
 

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And there are so many games I couldn't find on YT.It would be very interesting if someone can find the 4th quarters first scorer so far.I have a feeling that KD would be first by far.

LMA is so underrated.He is a beast and everybody talks about Griffin and not him..Too bad.
 
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Would it be too crazy to put up an argument for LaMarcus Aldridge at this point? He's had the best year of his career so far this year. After he left last night's game with an ankle injury, Portland looked completely out of sync and were blown out by the Wizards at home.

Yea, good thought, but I would say No.

It's a 3 headed race now between Bron, KD, & DRose imho.
 

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Yeah.KD is running alone in the first place and LBJ and Rose are running for the second place with Bron having a minor edge over Rose.
 

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And there are so many games I couldn't find on YT.It would be very interesting if someone can find the 4th quarters first scorer so far.I have a feeling that KD would be first by far.

LMA is so underrated.He is a beast and everybody talks about Griffin and not him..Too bad.

Lou Williams is #1 in 4th qtr scoring. KD is #2.

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