Whomst is back on the Trubisky train?

[TheWinman]

Goff just inked a 4 yr/134M deal last year. Are you telling me you know more about the NFL than Sean McVay?

Goff is nothing more than maybe an average QB at best.

 

[Wild_x_Card]

Getting rid of 4M if he is not the answer isnt blowing it up.

And plenty of teams have rebuilt quickly like the Niners and Dolphins.

Both of those teams went through years of suck. Both had blue chip talent at premium positions already in place from years of acquiring premium pics. The Phins took a different approach and dealt some of the players for more picks.

Hell, the Niners botched the hell out of their two first rounders under Lynch and were able to weather the storm because they already had players, like a franchise LT. Monsters along the front 4 and so on.

 

[remydat]

Both of those teams went through years of suck. Both had blue chip talent at premium positions already in place from years of acquiring premium pics. The Phins took a different approach and dealt some of the players for more picks.

Hell, the Niners botched the hell out of their two first rounders under Lynch and were able to weather the storm because they already had players, like a franchise LT. Monsters along the front 4 and so on.

Yes and the point is we have talent so there is no reason to believe we need some long rebuild if we move on from 4M. We already have pieces.

 

[Wild_x_Card]

Yes and the point is we have talent so there is no reason to believe we need some long rebuild if we move on from 4M. We already have pieces.

I agree. The roster would simply need to be retooled for sustainable success. Not totally rebuilt. All I'm saying is using the two teams provided as examples aren't good comparisons. Both had a lot of talent still on their first contracts and when you really look at the big picture of both teams, the perception of a quick turnaround is a mirage.

 

[WestCoastBearsFan]

Getting rid of 4M if he is not the answer isnt blowing it up.

And plenty of teams have rebuilt quickly like the Niners and Dolphins.

either way we will not have a high enough to pick to replace him with a top QB prospect.

 

[Wild_x_Card]

I'll also add. Retooling an aging, expensive roster can be a very tricky thing. All it takes is a few bad contracts for things to go tits up.

 

[gt07]

Love what he’s done the last few weeks but until he does it against GB, it’s just more fools gold.

We’ll see.

 

[Burque]

Mitch might be dumb af but he is also a baller. Love to root for ballers who ball out, no matter how dumb af they are.

He kinda has those weird mole eyes, but I suppose he can be a baller, at least he isn't air mailing every single pass...

Do you think that is because he cannot out throw mooney?

 

[DammitFullerTurnUrHead!]

All of the guys you just listed would be the exact same, if not worse, than Mitch. So congrats on the worst post of the year

Meh, Carr is a much better QB than Mitch.

 

[remydat]

I agree. The roster would simply need to be retooled for sustainable success. Not totally rebuilt. All I'm saying is using the two teams provided as examples aren't good comparisons. Both had a lot of talent still on their first contracts and when you really look at the big picture of both teams, the perception of a quick turnaround is a mirage.

And the Bears have comparable talent on their first contracts as well. Lets not pretend the Niners or Dolphins were uber talented.

either way we will not have a high enough to pick to replace him with a top QB prospect.

Did KC or Houston have a high enough picks to draft Watson or Mahomes? That is what trades are for.

 

[WestCoastBearsFan]

And the Bears have comparable talent on their first contracts as well. Lets not pretend the Niners or Dolphins were uber talented.



Did KC or Houston have a high enough picks to draft Watson or Mahomes? That is what trades are for.

you were just complaining about wasting resources

 

[msadows]

you were just complaining about wasting resources

Remy only likes to read the shit he types. He's pretty football stupid. He's wrong almost all the time.

I'm fairly certain he barely watches football, and just reads the synopsis of what happened each week on PFF.

 

[remydat]

you were just complaining about wasting resources

I was complaining about wasting resources on someone who wasnt a long term solution.

Trading up to get a franchise QB is an investment not a waste.

Odd you dont seem to know the difference.

 

[WestCoastBearsFan]

I was complaining about wasting resources on someone who wasnt a long term solution.

Trading up to get a franchise QB is an investment not a waste.

Odd you dont seem to know the difference.

it’s a waste when you consider how far up you would need to trade and you already have a serviceable one on the roster.

 

[remydat]

it’s a waste when you consider how far up you would need to trade and you already have a serviceable one on the roster.

Tell that to Reid who traded up for Mahomes while having Smith. Further 4M is not on the roster as he is a free agent. Hence why you would be wasting resources to sign him. If he were already signed then that would be fine.

You didnt think this through did you.

 

[WestCoastBearsFan]

Tell that to Reid who traded up for Mahomes while having Smith. Further 4M is not on the roster as he is a free agent. Hence why you would be wasting resources to sign him. If he were already signed then that would be fine.

You didnt think this through did you.

you’re basing this off mahomes? the once in a life time prospect? you didn’t think this through.

 

[remydat]

you’re basing this off mahomes? the once in a life time prospect? you didn’t think this through.

Was he considered once in a lifetime when he was drafted? Obviously not or he would have gone 1st.

Furthermore your argument is that trading up for a QB is a waste which is just a silly argument as teams have been trading up for decades for QBs.

You argument has no basis in reality.

 

[WestCoastBearsFan]

Was he considered once in a lifetime when he was drafted? Obviously not or he would have gone 1st.

Furthermore your argument is that trading up for a QB is a waste which is just a silly argument as teams have been trading up for decades for QBs.

You argument has no basis in reality.

i said trading up for a QB in this particular situation is a waste. you already have a guy on roster who’s serviceable with a bunch of other holes on the roster. tackles need to be upgraded, Danny T needs to be replaced, we could use another safety and nickel corner, and potentially another WR and TE if robinson and graham leave. it would be much smarter to take an instant starter in the first round and take a QB in the second similarly to what Philly did with Hurts. Instead of wasting all those picks try and actually develop a QB for once.

 

[NCChiFan]

Lot more quick hitting slants and tight ends in the seams. The O line is completely revamped as well. Notice there hasn't been any Leno hate threads lately? All the chunk runs with Monty are happening on Leno and Whitehair's side.

LT Leno
LG Whitehair
C Mustipher
RG Bars
RT Ifedi

You had me right until you mentioned Leno. He is the worst pass blocker on the line currently and he's the blind side protector. Unforgivable.

 

[TL1961]

I am not on the “Trubisky will be great train”. He is doing fine not great against poor defenses.

But I looked at the list - and it’s quite a long list -of quarterbacks that will be available next year and there isn’t any quarterback on that list that I would prefer over Trubisky given that those clearly better are facing retirement.

If the Bears have an opportunity to draft the right guy and there’s only a few I would consider the right guy, then I am for it. But assuming that the draft position will be too low and the trade would cost too much, the bridge to the next quarterback should be Mitch himself.

That’s not to say he is the long-term answer. It’s simply saying in the near term our chances are better keeping Mitch and drafting offensive linemen in the first two rounds. There aren’t better options.