Yall still love King Poles?

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Yes the actual good players on this team are Jaylon Johnson, dj moore, Cole kmet, Montez sweat.

I’d probably put Billings in there as well or maybe a half step down.

Who are the next good players on the team? Maybe byard? I mean I like Kyler Gordon when he’s healthy?

Poles has not drafted a single true impact player / difference maker. They are pace hold overs or by way of trade.

His list of HUGE misses easily out weighs the hits.
Yeah Gordon is probably the first guy you mention. The sample size with Darnell Wright drops him. There’s Rome Odunze but it’s not rocket science with that pick.

Long story short, Poles has not shown that he’s the guy to “sustain success” as he preached day 1. If it’s been this hard for him while literally being able to go BPA for two years with extra draft cap and no qb to pay, what is he going to do when it actually gets tough?

Doesn’t really matter tho, he’s not going anywhere anytime soon. The only thing George hates more than hiring coaches is hiring GMs. He’ll either turn it around or set them back another decade. This is our eternal reality.
 

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Byron Pringle? Really?

Year one of the rebuild he was just signing bodies. Pringle wasn't signed to some massive contract. You're being ridiculous.
1 year
4+ mil
Guaranteed
Signed to be a starter with mooney
Put up about 150 recv yards

Notice how I didn't mentioned the "bodies" he signed; that were also awful; as misses
 

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I like a lot of the things he's done, and I definitely think he's better than Pace.
Maybe, but I see a lot of similarities with Pace & Poles. Neither apparently knows how to logically construct a team. I find it interesting that the Bears' best players on offense and defense are DJ Moore and Montez Sweat....both of whom came from other organizations. The GM's job is to find superstar players and good coaches. Poles has failed MISERABLY at both, much like Pace. Someone actually touted Poles for drafting Brisker...that's how low the standard has become.
 

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I still think he's the most qualified we've had.

I don't think Flus was his choice. The way of the Bears is the rookie GM gets to pick his 2nd HC, sort of, with some suggestions from McCaskeys.

My main questions are why he sticks to people like VJJ and Morgan.
 

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If it wasn't for Lovie Smith, the Bears would already be looking at another GM.

Bringing Eberflus back, given all that was at stake with handling a #1 pick QB, should have been a fireable offense. I said it then, and I'll reiterate it now. The biggest reason Poles, Eberflus, and Waldron are here, I strongly suspect, is because they're all represented by Trace Armstrong. The Bears are more interested in doing favors for him than they are serious about winning.
 

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Just remember Poles didn’t even bring JD in for a visit….
 

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1 year
4+ mil
Guaranteed
Signed to be a starter with mooney
Put up about 150 recv yards

Notice how I didn't mentioned the "bodies" he signed; that were also awful; as misses

Yeah, a one year deal on a minimal NFL level contract that didn't impact the salary cap going forward.

You really have zero concept of a consequential contract, do you? As I said - you arrived to your conclusion first, and now are just grasping at straw to prop it up.
 

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I doubt Montgomery or Mooney ever had any intention of re-signing in Chicago, but both are good players that he let walk.

He proceeds to trade a 4th for Keenan Allen. I would’ve much rather just kept Mooney and the 4th round pick.

Then they go and sign swift, who has been okay I guess? Nothing too special. They also have inexplicably stopped using Herbert. Why not spend that money elsewhere or just hold onto Montgomery?

Same thing with letting roquan go. I was fine with the decision assuming they spend that money on DL or OL. What does poles do? He goes and spends a huge chunk on Tremaine Edmund’s. I mean why? He’s been trash to mediocre.

These moves all make 0 sense. Poles is a complete buffoon
 

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Being a fan of this team is exhausting.

They're owned by a 119 year old bag of bones, whose creepy mustachioed son is the mouthpiece for a family that still thinks they should be running the T-Formation. They're not businesspeople, nor are they really football people (despite the patriarch being the guy that started the NFL), so they have to go out and find people to find people to run the team. Meanwhile all they have to do is flash a smile, pay homage to Papa Bear, and make a joke about the Packers and you're hired.

The latest empty suit is Ryan Poles who three years ago said that we're going to take the north and never give it back. Never mind that two of his most important hires are also clients of his agent, and the third was hired because "I know Aaron Rodgers." Never mind that this former offensive lineman has only spent one premium draft pick on the offensive line. Never mind that the biggest free agency deal he's spent money on is for a guy that only plays one position despite Poles claiming he loves versatility along the line.

Never mind all of that. The fact is that every other team in the division has shown growth. The fact is that every other team in this division has an offense that pairs well with their defense. That's apparently a bridge too far for this franchise as we're just simply not allowed to have nice things.
Ryan Poles had the opportunity to turn the perception of this team around with Caleb Williams. After masterfully pulling off a trade that put you in the position to draft him. After including a legit #1 WR in that deal, signing a future HOF WR, drafting a WR in the top 10, the Bears are still no closer to a QB that can surpass 4000 yards passing and 30 TDs. Stats are just stats, sure - but when you're the only team in the NFL who hasn't achieved those two numbers despite being the oldest team in the league that says a lot about you. Apparently there's never any wind or cold in places like Seattle, Minnesota, Green Bay, Cleveland, New England, Buffalo, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, and DC. Apparently we're the only team in the league that gets to talk about this mythical BEAR WEATHER as if we are so much more special than the other teams north of the Mason-Dixon Line. Oh, and anyone who has ever been through 3rd grade knows that Bears hibernate in the winter, which is exactly what these Bears have been doing in my lifetime with the exception of two seasons.

But don't worry guys, our head coach got a new beard and haircut. Don't worry guys, our new offensive coordinator will be sure to scheme for our offensive skill players only after they complain to the media. Don't worry guys, our "leadership council" seemingly filled with guys who have never won in the playoffs will hold each other accountable. And certainly don't worry, because they fixed the bathroom lines in that dump of a stadium on the Lake, which if they ever leave the country will never learn about deep dish pizza and Italian beefs.

This team will forever be mired in mediocrity. Learn to expect less, because you'll never be disappointed.
 

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Yeah, a one year deal on a minimal NFL level contract that didn't impact the salary cap going forward.

You really have zero concept of a consequential contract, do you? As I said - you arrived to your conclusion first, and now are just grasping at straw to prop it up.
Clearly you don't know what a minimum contract is and don't have reading comprehension.......its a MISS from a f/a talent perspective when the guy signed to starts puts up 150ish total yards
 

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It's better to have Caleb Williams sitting back there in a clean pocket waiting for a scrub WR to get open than having him destroyed before he can hit a stud WR who was open.
Everything is backwards with this organization. It's fucking bullshit and they never learn.
Yes, and yes. Poles mistake, after drafting CW, was picking RO. He needed to go full till on the OL. Draft 2 or 3 OL players, trade future draft picks (which he is not the greatest drafter), for 1 or 2 OL players. Protect CW, at all costs, and with a good OL, maybe your run game is top 10? If CW could sit there in a clean pocket (like Goff), he'd be up there with Jayden D, and we would be 7-1.....just sayin'
 

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Poles want this to be his thing. His win His SB. Reason why he does not want a proven elite HC.
 

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Coaches and management ultimately get judged on wins and losses, but aside from that they should be heavily judged on the hard decisions they've made.

Roster construction aside (which I think his philosophy of building outside-in suck, btw), Poles has had to make one hard decision and that was to keep or fire Eberflus after last season. Everything else has been an obvious decision. He got extremely lucky with the Panthers trade, I don't think he deserves a ton of credit for that.
 

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Coaches and management ultimately get judged on wins and losses, but aside from that they should be heavily judged on the hard decisions they've made.

Roster construction aside (which I think his philosophy of building outside-in suck, btw), Poles has had to make one hard decision and that was to keep or fire Eberflus after last season. Everything else has been an obvious decision. He got extremely lucky with the Panthers trade, I don't think he deserves a ton of credit for that.

There were plenty of voices in the media saying he should draft Young and trade Fields in 2023 so wouldnt say trading the pick was an easy decision.
 

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